Paraphrase yourself - Stuff you said about music in the past that if you heard now you'd feel disgusted

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Here's one for me:

"This Dylan album I'm listening to is much better than The Beatles"

The fact that I dislike both Dylan and The Beatles now, and also because Dylan has nothing to do with The Beatles, but just that my scope was really that narrow then.

One more:

"I know all the words to Dark Side Of The Moon by memory"

and that's said with a prideful attitude. Damn, how things change....

― James Morris (HorrayJames), Saturday, 2 August 2003 04:41 (twenty-two years ago)

"Fuck The Dead"

"I totally wouldn't regret getting a Smiths tattoo"

― roger adultery, Saturday, 2 August 2003 05:15 (twenty-two years ago)

(When I only listened to rap)
"Rock died with Elvis"
(When I only listened to rock)
"Rap is entirely comprised of car-worshiping, women hating morons"

God, I have a lot more actually. Everything I posted on this board for about my first 6 months of being here, I'd say.

― David Allen, Saturday, 2 August 2003 05:35 (twenty-two years ago)

"I can't believe my first concert is going to be Whitesnake!"

I actually like their '87 s/t LP, but still...

― ham on rye (ham on rye), Saturday, 2 August 2003 06:05 (twenty-two years ago)

"who is this faggot?" (said to my high-school girlfriend when i saw her watching the video to "how soon is now?")

― Tad (llamasfur), Saturday, 2 August 2003 06:20 (twenty-two years ago)

"I enjoy the lyrics of American band The Dead Kennedys."

― s1utsky (slutsky), Saturday, 2 August 2003 06:46 (twenty-two years ago)

"This Chris Whitley guy is pretty good!"

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Saturday, 2 August 2003 06:54 (twenty-two years ago)

"Little Earthquakes is one of the most moving albums I've ever heard."

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Saturday, 2 August 2003 06:56 (twenty-two years ago)

"The Rolling Stones? I dunno. I just don't get it. I'm more of a Beatles man."

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Saturday, 2 August 2003 06:58 (twenty-two years ago)

"who is this faggot?" (said to my high-school girlfriend when i saw her watching the video to "how soon is now?")

I imagine at least one person in the world still says that every day, for exactly the same reason. (But how many will live to regret it?)

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Saturday, 2 August 2003 07:00 (twenty-two years ago)

"vote for orgy on trl!"

― reo fordecor, Saturday, 2 August 2003 07:17 (twenty-two years ago)

All Sonic Youth do is feed back...

Two tickets for Marillion, please...

― Nom De Plume (Nom De Plume), Saturday, 2 August 2003 16:50 (twenty-two years ago)

I once attempted to start a diary on my computer in high school. I only wrote one entry in it and found it about two years ago. It said that I should never let SPIN Magazine tell me "Alien Lanes" by GBV is a flop.

KILL ME.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 2 August 2003 17:06 (twenty-two years ago)

(don't kill me because I liked that album. I still do. but for caring so MUCH about it, I may deserve bludgeoning)

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 2 August 2003 17:12 (twenty-two years ago)

In 1996 I remember explaining to someone that DJ Shadow was so great b/c he didn't use drum machines, that I much preferred the sound of a real drum kit, even if it's sampled. This doesn' disgust me now but my feelings have changed A LOT.

― Mark (MarkR), Saturday, 2 August 2003 17:32 (twenty-two years ago)

That's something I currently agree with. Maybe I'll eventually end up where you are, in terms of taste.

― David Allen, Saturday, 2 August 2003 17:40 (twenty-two years ago)

"This Clem Snide guy is pretty good!" I was lying, but still.

― Aaron A., Saturday, 2 August 2003 17:59 (twenty-two years ago)

"I don't see how anyone who really listens to Husker Du couldn't appreciate how great they are" - under the influence of New Day Rising.

I still really like the Huskers, but....

― Chris P, Saturday, 2 August 2003 20:15 (twenty-two years ago)

everything before, oh, mid-2000 or so

― M Matos (M Matos), Saturday, 2 August 2003 20:34 (twenty-two years ago)

In my case: "ew, bling" (through '02); "ew, house" (through '01); "ew, indie" (through '97) -- though that last one still manages to rear its ugly head every so often when I tune into college radio amidst a block of an endless stream of Superchunkalikes.

― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Saturday, 2 August 2003 22:33 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm so ashamed of some of the stuff i've said i refuse to post it even on a jokey thread like this!

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Saturday, 2 August 2003 22:43 (twenty-two years ago)

The first review I ever got paid for writing was about "Blood & Chocolate," and it was about how Elvis C. had totally lost it and couldn't write concise or moving songs any more. Now I think it's his best album.

― Douglas (Douglas), Sunday, 3 August 2003 00:15 (twenty-two years ago)

it's my 2nd favorite (first is still Trust). my first review was of Graffiti Bridge for my h.s. paper, which I gave an A+. nuh-uh.

― M Matos (M Matos), Sunday, 3 August 2003 02:36 (twenty-two years ago)

I know this isn't the forum for it, but you're all off, MM. Get Happy! trumps both, My Aim is True (even w/Clover) and Imperial Bedroom also just ahead. Trust is probably after B&C in my book, though its his best late-period release (though King of America is also VERY nice; esp. America W/O Tears)

― Chris P, Sunday, 3 August 2003 04:12 (twenty-two years ago)

my first review was of Graffiti Bridge for my h.s. paper, which I gave an A+. nuh-uh.

Rewriting Rolling Stone, were we? I did a lot of that in my high school peper, too.

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Sunday, 3 August 2003 04:13 (twenty-two years ago)

bullseye, Kenan. not even close to bullseye, Chris P

― M Matos (M Matos), Sunday, 3 August 2003 04:21 (twenty-two years ago)

"music made with synthesizers isn't real music"

― teeny (teeny), Sunday, 3 August 2003 04:30 (twenty-two years ago)

I remember going out and buying Graffiti Bridge and Ritual de lo Habitual on the same day - the very first day they both came out. What a glorious day!! Two of my favorite artists released much-anticipated records on the same day! But I just couldn't get into Graffiti Bridge, it seemed way better than Batman, yet still somewhat a disappointment. Too sprawling. Ritual was great! I had already heard much of it via bootlegs of early mixes that were circulating around, but the real article did not disappoint: I just couldn't believe what I was hearing - it was impossibly great.

Curiously, I think I like Graffiti Bridge more now than I did then; Ritual less. Anyway, I've certainly listened to the former more in the interim.

Oh, my stupid stuff? Ignoring and basically disdaining pop from about 1991-1996. Silly.

― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Sunday, 3 August 2003 04:45 (twenty-two years ago)

weird that they came out the same day. I knew who Jane's were at that point but I hadn't really heard them yet--knowing that album came out the same day wouldn't have meant very much to me at that point. (I'm not a huge fan, though i like individual songs, so I don't know if it would mean anymore now.)

― M Matos (M Matos), Sunday, 3 August 2003 05:22 (twenty-two years ago)

I did a huge gush gush for graffiti bridge in my high school paper and annoyed all my friends with my impersonation of prince in the 'thieves in the temple' video (remember the long ass expanded version bet would show?). still love that album, though I don't think I'd still say the time's 'shake' outdoes sam cooke coming and going (not that I regret that)(nor do I regret predicting tevin campbell would be 'the next michael jackson' esp. since I was just parroting his pr)(plus "just ask me to" was great! "audi 5000"!).

― nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Sunday, 3 August 2003 05:29 (twenty-two years ago)

I regret betting my grandfather that george m. cohan wrote "god bless america" when I was ten. I was thinking of "you're a grand old flag".

― nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Sunday, 3 August 2003 05:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I can only explain my fervor for JA by saying at that point I was smoking pot essentially every day. I never touch the stuff anymore. The 2nd side of that record is still pretty impressive, though. I have no interest in that new thing.

Yeah, I think one of the disappointing things about Graffiti Bridge was The Time tracks. They just were so ... basic. Enjoyable, but like, nothing really happening. I really liked Pandemonium too, but I haven't heard it in a decade nor have any real desire to.

There is something wistful about listening to Graffiti Bridge now. It was Prince's last real embrace of psychedelia - something like the great "Elephants and Flowers" or "Tick, Tick, Bang" (sampling Mitch Mitchell!), even "Can't Stop This Feeling I've Got"; he just doesn't bother anymore.

er, I guess this probably belongs on that Prince thread..

― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Sunday, 3 August 2003 05:52 (twenty-two years ago)

I remember being really disappointed with the jack nicholson impersonator in the "jerk out" video

― nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Sunday, 3 August 2003 05:53 (twenty-two years ago)

ok, this really belongs on that other thread, but I think after the world didn't follow prince up his ass on lovesexy (which I luvs, really, but don't buy as a masterpiece), prince felt the need to reclaim the market via - voila - a sequel to purple rain via a soundtrack to the sequel to purple rain: welcome back blistering guitar solos, morris, jerome, and that when this relatively flopped (though it maybe wouldn't've had it not been tied to the movie - under the cherry moon hurt parade's success also somewhat)(ie. "mountains" shoulda been a much huger hit)(as shouldve "anotherloverholeinyohead" and "boys and girls"), prince blinked (enter tony m.).

― nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Sunday, 3 August 2003 06:03 (twenty-two years ago)

ok, problematic, but:

graffiti bridge : purple rain :: blood and chocolate : this year's model

(maybe)

― nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Sunday, 3 August 2003 06:04 (twenty-two years ago)

haha - I remember when entertainment weekly ran that 'artists formerly known as relevant' review in the mid-90s and two (of the four) artists they singled out were prince and elvis costello (at that point I owned everything - just about (never got goodbye cruel world) - by both) and my friend was like 'dude, don't read ew this week' but it wasn't like I didn't know - I'd been buying the albums, I was well aware of the dropoff.

― nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Sunday, 3 August 2003 06:09 (twenty-two years ago)

graffiti bridge : purple rain :: blood and chocolate : this year's model

No. Blood and Chocolate is a major Costello album. It's got a specific, spare sound, and an unusual focus on one emotion -- in this case, bile. It's a gorgeous object constructed almost entirely of bitterness. It has focus and purpose and a hell of a punch.

Graffiti Bridge, on the other hand, is a messy patchwork of styles, which is bad enough, but it also fails at so much that it tries to do. The grooves are weak, the songs are underwritten, the themes are underdeveloped. A dud in all the ways that Blood and Chocolate is a classic.

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Sunday, 3 August 2003 06:20 (twenty-two years ago)

haha - there's nothing unusual about costello focusing on one emotion!

― nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Sunday, 3 August 2003 06:23 (twenty-two years ago)

so long as said emotion is bile

― nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Sunday, 3 August 2003 06:23 (twenty-two years ago)

That's not true. Even This Year's Model, which is pretty bitter, is not as focused or as angry as Blood and Chocolate. They're both great albums, don't get me wrong.

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Sunday, 3 August 2003 06:26 (twenty-two years ago)

To me, the anger on This Year's Model feels more adolescent, brighter, and more optimistic even as it spits and condemns. Blood and Chocolate is a much more adult record. It sounds like it came out of a divorce, instead of just a bad romance. It's an admission that's there's nothing even remotely loving left inn him. It hits hard.

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Sunday, 3 August 2003 06:29 (twenty-two years ago)

but the bitterness on this year's model is more ...wait for it...sincere. blood and chocolate has a hint (just a hint mind you!) of that 'bile in a can' costello ended up deploying every now and then whenever he needed a 'return to form' (mind you I love it anyways). ie. I've never really bought the nastiness in "I want you" (nastiest song on b&c prob.) whereas I've never had a problem buying the nastiness in "hand in hand" (not even 3rd nastiest on t y's m). ie. I just know elvis in 86 is a nicer guy than elvis in 78.

― nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Sunday, 3 August 2003 06:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, that's you, and this is me. You've never bought the nastiness in "I Want You"? My God, man. That song is the meaning of the word "jealousy."

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Sunday, 3 August 2003 06:37 (twenty-two years ago)

anyways, what I'm trying to say is that blood & chocolate/graffiti bridge represent last gasps via attempts to recreate a prior big definitive album.

plus they've both worked with gwen stefani!!!

― nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Sunday, 3 August 2003 06:39 (twenty-two years ago)

blood and chocolate has a hint (just a hint mind you!) of that 'bile in a can' costello ended up deploying every now and then whenever he needed a 'return to form'

If it's at all possible, you're more cynical than he is.

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Sunday, 3 August 2003 06:40 (twenty-two years ago)

I said I love the 'bile in a can'!

― nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Sunday, 3 August 2003 06:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Nevermind. We've derailed this thread quite enough.

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Sunday, 3 August 2003 06:43 (twenty-two years ago)

add it to the regrets pile

― nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Sunday, 3 August 2003 06:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Not a big EC fan (ok, actually I sort of openly dislike the guy), but great point by about Prince and his dang movie tie-in stuff. Especially with Parade. That album is just so accomplished (echoing others, my favorite of his); it should have, like, taken over the world. Instead he alienated people with the constant accoutrements.

― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Sunday, 3 August 2003 06:44 (twenty-two years ago)

by JB about Prince, that is

― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Sunday, 3 August 2003 06:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Which accoutrements do you mean, Diamond? The movie itself, or precious throwaways like "Under the Cherry Moon" and "Do U Lie"?

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Sunday, 3 August 2003 06:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Prince hasn't written a song as good as those "precious throwaways" in going on a decade now

― M Matos (M Matos), Sunday, 3 August 2003 06:54 (twenty-two years ago)

"throwaways"

!?!?@##@%?!@?!?#?@??@#%

― chaki (chaki), Sunday, 3 August 2003 06:59 (twenty-two years ago)

throwaways with GREAT MELODIES

haha I am Geir now

― M Matos (M Matos), Sunday, 3 August 2003 07:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, no kidding Kenan. I was talking about his need to have a movie tie-in to seemingly every album. Also cf. the "cult" strand on the other Prince thread. Anyway, there simply isn't a bad track on Parade; "Do U Lie" might seem like a throwaway, but it's not. A blissful (though key: short) faux French-pop thing that no artist of his stature would have bothered with. The record is the pinnacle of his arranging skill, and a master's sense of album statement flow. Ending it with the extended, mournful "Sometimes It Snow in April" = k-classic.

― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Sunday, 3 August 2003 07:03 (twenty-two years ago)

"Dude, let's check out this all-ages ska-punk show!"

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Sunday, 3 August 2003 07:12 (twenty-two years ago)

That post-OK Computer period where I dubbed every other vaguely decent sensitive/literate/angsty band I heard "the American Radiohead".

― Nick Mirov (nick), Sunday, 3 August 2003 07:18 (twenty-two years ago)

"I will never play any type of guitar other than a Stratocaster"

― dave q, Sunday, 3 August 2003 07:22 (twenty-two years ago)

All of it.

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Sunday, 3 August 2003 07:40 (twenty-two years ago)

great q: free improv/jazz is so much better than all that pop stuff but that kind of thinking does lead to madness (I won't say who was the person that finally convinced me abt this) (but i don't regret it thinking like that as i know a bit more abt things).

all electronic music that has a beat doesn't work as records bcz its club music, only like stuff like xenakis stockhausen. whereas actually I'm start to like that kind of stuff again (bcz of some of the threads here).

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 3 August 2003 08:06 (twenty-two years ago)

This isn't me.
(Derisively) "Roots Manuva makes jiggy music".

Dude then got all upset when I sold off my 'Witness' 12" to someone else.

However, I can't seem to incriminate myself today.

― Barima (Barima), Sunday, 3 August 2003 08:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh wait.

My parents once accused me of choosing my friends on whether or not they listened to hip hop. This was so off the money, I was disgusted at them at the time. Still am.

Just remembered one (I think): "The Rae and Christian album is brilliant. Everything the UNKLE album should've been". Today, I love half the UNKLE album without owning it and hate every track bar the first one on the R&C CD, which is the only reason I still have it.

― Barima (Barima), Sunday, 3 August 2003 08:45 (twenty-two years ago)

The first 4-5 months of stuff I posted on ILM

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Sunday, 3 August 2003 18:09 (twenty-two years ago)

ditto

― stevem (blueski), Sunday, 3 August 2003 18:13 (twenty-two years ago)

I remember saying that I really, really hated (Smog) the first couple times I heard the music/saw Bill live.

― hstencil, Sunday, 3 August 2003 18:20 (twenty-two years ago)

talking about the "artistry" of a Genesis album when I was v.young and impressionable (I'm too embarrassed to say which one, but it's sufficiently late in their career to rate 11 on a 1-10 scale of naff)

― robin carmody (robin carmody), Sunday, 3 August 2003 19:35 (twenty-two years ago)

i once really liked the smashing pumpkins when i was an angsted up teen. actually i guess thats ok, (fuck you if you don't like gish), and although i dont listen to it very often at all i can see that there are some real gems in there. but its the obsession that im embarrased about.

also, me when i was 14: "Ocean Colour Scene are great!"

now heres the thing, do you older people stop loving stuff you used to love as an adult, or mostly stuff you loved while you were a younger teenager and you needed your fill of hard rocking angst music, because that little cock teaser likes the drama captain instead? i mean do you critics regret positive stuff you said a year or 2 ago about a band?

im 19 now, and i still get a little obsessive, a little bit fanboy when i hear something that i absolutely love, nothing excites me more than music i guess. so far i havent actually regretted any of those obsessions yet, well the ones ive had since i was 17 (it was then that i went to see a Low gig, having heard very little of them, but it was so fucking incredible and soulful i realised then that music could be a lot more than most of the stuff i had been listening to as a younger teenager, and pretty much sold me on the need to buy lots of albums and see lots of gigs so as not to miss out on any wonderfulness that was available) i dont think i'll regret too much though, because the music has caused me so much excitement and i buy so many records, usually every week, or every 2 weeks, and basically all of the things ive really really loved since that fateful day have stuck with me and are still well loved. (and lurking and recently posting on ilx has pointed me to some great stuff too). im just worried when im 50 i might like the kinda stuff that Xgau likes or something (ew..., ok actually some of his recommendations are decent, but still i mostly dont like his taste, ew) please don't let me become like that.

hstencil: almost the same thing happened to me. although i never hated smog, it just took me till i was hungover once to appreciate his genius. and oldham's arise therefore too, i came to love that thru hangover. and the grateful dead i partially learned to love thru having a hangover. so i guess the point is always get drunk and listen to new records in the morning.

― Bob Shaw (Bob Shaw), Sunday, 3 August 2003 20:10 (twenty-two years ago)

that drama captain was blatantly a homo too

― Bob Shaw (Bob Shaw), Sunday, 3 August 2003 20:13 (twenty-two years ago)

i mean do you critics regret positive stuff you said a year or 2 ago about a band?

Yes. Or more likely, negative stuff. Mostly because of writing about something before it's fully sunk in. It's so easy to toss off a review based on a first impression.

― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Sunday, 3 August 2003 20:42 (twenty-two years ago)

*ILM doesn't have the bandwidth*

― Mike Taylor (mjt), Sunday, 3 August 2003 20:47 (twenty-two years ago)

oh and i take back the drama captain joke, i recognise it was in bad taste, so apologies

― Bob Shaw (Bob Shaw), Sunday, 3 August 2003 22:41 (twenty-two years ago)

The first 4-5 months of stuff I posted on ILM
-- Curtis Stephens

o you rascal, you mean your big love of S'Pumpkins was a mere put-on? ;-)

― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Sunday, 3 August 2003 22:45 (twenty-two years ago)

In a fit of Smashing Pumpkins hatred I once declared that no music should ever be recorded on or maniuplated by a computer. Umm, unless it's music I like.

― BrianB, Monday, 4 August 2003 13:24 (twenty-two years ago)

o you rascal, you mean your big love of S'Pumpkins was a mere put-on? ;-)

Of course not, I'm talking about the OTHER first 4-5 months, obv.

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Monday, 4 August 2003 13:41 (twenty-two years ago)

"I will never like house music. Only brain-dead munchkin coke-addled bitches in silver lame miniskirts like house music."
(Mitigating circumstances - the west midlands in the mid-nineties was handbag house, club babe central)

"No one will ever, ever mean as much as the Manic Street Preachers."

― Anna (Anna), Monday, 4 August 2003 14:17 (twenty-two years ago)

'Let's go halves on the new Go West album'

― Kim Tortoise, Monday, 4 August 2003 14:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Some of the stuff I wrote for the student paper when I got to uni for the first time was disgustingly pretentious, in the limited-grasp-of-language-and-general-context way that 18 year olds thrive on. I don't think I've quite got out of it really. *Some* people on here might even remember it. The 'genius', or similar, of Radiohead featured somewhere, but I'm sure i'm not the only one here guilty for falling into that trap.

The real bastard comes with stuff that remains in the public domain and holds you guilty of (a) ludicrous enthusiasm, (b) saying something you don't really believe to pay the rent, or a combination of the two. Although i'm sure all of you are beings with far too much integrity and good judgement to have anything like that on your conscience

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Monday, 4 August 2003 14:37 (twenty-two years ago)

"I hate funk music"

(said by me, aged 14, in response to reading a reference to the above-mentioned artform in a Happy Mondays review in Melody Maker/Vox/one of them.)

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Monday, 4 August 2003 14:44 (twenty-two years ago)

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