what's it like? my pre-Auckland Nundoctrination response would have been something to the effect of it's-all-rip-offs-&-posing-&-etc (which is weird because I like rip-offs & posing, but then I remember there's not a lot of straight-up punk that I like on record), but I've been hearing something interesting things, on RG listening posts & on National Radio in Nostromo & stuff.
duane? di? esoj? anyone?
― Ess Kay (esskay), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 10:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 10:32 (twenty-two years ago)
(btw auckland punk party this friday - b0bb1ns, muffl3rs (hey they cover "rebel girl" & stuff & I know yv0nn3), etc etc, you & e should totally come, it's m4tt's going away party & that. it'll be like p3lv1c trust!)
― Ess Kay (esskay), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 10:34 (twenty-two years ago)
― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 10:40 (twenty-two years ago)
kitschy Nazi stuff is EXACTLY what I feared from Ak punk.
who's Wade Churton?
― Ess Kay (esskay), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 10:48 (twenty-two years ago)
― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 11:03 (twenty-two years ago)
― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 11:04 (twenty-two years ago)
― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 11:12 (twenty-two years ago)
― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 11:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 11:47 (twenty-two years ago)
― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 11:48 (twenty-two years ago)
― cameron, Wednesday, 6 August 2003 13:24 (twenty-two years ago)
― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 13:31 (twenty-two years ago)
― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 13:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― forbidden or obsolete (24 hour troubleshooter), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 13:49 (twenty-two years ago)
― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 13:51 (twenty-two years ago)
You can't really go past AK79 (esp the expanded version), tho' the Scavs album is good and there's just been a release of the Spelling Mistakes album. Check www.records.co.nz for all yr punk/garage needs. I think they're still selling 'Mysterex' [the zine] which has plenty of info.
Wade Churton's book 'Have You Checked the Children' is a good read on the development of NZ punk. Your local library/bookstore should be able to track down a copy if it's still in print. I think he's working on part 2 the post punk years IIRC tho' I can't remember where I heard that.
― Bill E (bill_e), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 20:06 (twenty-two years ago)
― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Thursday, 7 August 2003 07:24 (twenty-two years ago)
― cameron, Thursday, 7 August 2003 07:53 (twenty-two years ago)
― cameron, Thursday, 7 August 2003 14:30 (twenty-two years ago)
i remember "hope she's alright" well as it was very catchy and popular and so it got played on "Radio with Pictures" several times, which meant the tv people had to censor the line which went "she's got a job, $$$$ing men"; the censorship was just as low-budget as the video for the song, so the song and the screen would simply be blanked for that bite, so that you couldn't even read the instigator's lips; i remember seeing what looked like a bit of red cardboard being used to blank the screen, so they tried to get the gist of it across as best they could
i thought Ronald Wade Churton's next book was to be about the early f.nun um "post-punk" new zealand scene? It's well on its way from what i've heard, as he's conducted many interviews for it already i'm told. Maybe it will be in an academic form, a thesis, but i don't know much more about it; i see him every so often somewhere in chch and he's very interesting to talk to about a lot of music, from then or now, and he usually says that the book's "coming along ..."
I think it will be a quite momentus chunk of history; seems there's agreement that things like the "give it a whirl" doco just skimmed the surface, so i can see how daunting it would be producing anything "definitive", as there must be so much not to leave out (even just compared to the ".. children " book which dealt with a brief flash in the musical history of new zealand (as did "AK 79"));
and what was happening in chch and ak, these two scenes seem a bit seperate really, with the chch thing going on longer, having some staying power, what with what was playing at the Gladstone being prodded and encouraged by the emerging bill direens and axemen and pin groups (who'd turned up first in the " ..children") book;
all that chch stuff plus all the developements in dunedin.. golly that's so many bands; so much stuff that suddenly started happening
― george gosset (gegoss), Thursday, 7 August 2003 18:30 (twenty-two years ago)
words cannot express how unappealing that sounds.
― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Thursday, 7 August 2003 21:30 (twenty-two years ago)
― cameron, Friday, 8 August 2003 09:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Friday, 8 August 2003 10:55 (twenty-two years ago)
err.. not "hartley-mills" by any chance?
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 8 August 2003 12:31 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 8 August 2003 14:33 (twenty-two years ago)
― cameron, Friday, 8 August 2003 15:37 (twenty-two years ago)