new British bands - Starsailor etc. - oh dear? can anything save UK guitar music?

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― gretnagreen, Tuesday, 7 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The Strokes. Duh.

― Sterling Clover, Tuesday, 7 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i think the starisailors should have sex with the strokes and then their chirlden could rule the uk and america.

― junichiro, Tuesday, 7 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Nothing can save guitar music, and i don't think we really need to. it's traditional music, leave it be. maybe in 30, 40 years time someone might have something witty to say about it. maybe Afghanistan, which, post-Taleban is the new Swinging Japan, which was the old Carnaby London, because linearity is no longer considered part of grand narratives as much as influence... yeah, maybe then the Afghani band Roaring Guitar Six will make these great broken- harddrive cut and paste rock epics that the japanese will just eat up after their few decades atop the music industry has come to a close. but, i plead to those japanese of the future - don't mourn it! don't fight it!

Guitars are dead. I do'nt see any cause for complaint, it's hardly as if the creativity of the species has died with them.

― matthew james, Tuesday, 7 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

aren't The Music supposed to save us all? never heard them.

― keith, Tuesday, 7 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

My band. Duh.

― dave q, Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

People have been saying that the guitar is dead and guitar bands are on their way out since before the Beatles were signed. The record company exec who refused to sign them on those grounds is reportedly still out on the Thames Embankment kicking himself to death. He will shortly be joined by anyone who really thinks that either the Strokes or Starsailor are *actually* the future of guitar music.

― Kate the Saint, Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Bark Psychosis are back with the new album that is due out this year, called DustSucker.

― DJ Martian, Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Good music is continuing to be made in the UK. Occasionally it uses guitars. The separation of 'guitar music' from 'other music' is what should be 'dead', maybe.

― Tom, Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Incidentally in the pub last night both Carsmile and I kept getting the Strokes and the Lollies muddled up, ho ho.

― Tom, Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Tom, I'm going to kick you and Steve's asses when I get back from tour! Or more likely while on tour, since I'll see you in Oxford (I hope).

We're far better looking than the Strokes. And more talented, though that's honestly not very difficult.

― Kate the Saint, Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

But you have quite a similar sound, don't you?

― Nick, Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Nick, I take it you're fond of your rock star looks and don't want them ruined when my METAL TOED BOOTS connect with your face during the ass-kicking I'm going to give you for that quip.

― Kate the Saint, Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

As Tom touched on: surely you can still use the guitar and not be a 'guitar band'? I don't see why there has to be such a general defeatist attitude anyway- most bands in any genre are shit, but it's the 1% of greatness that makes music so worthwhile. Anyone who says shit like 'music today is crap' or 'guitar music is dead' just isn't bothering to look (does this count as an "A-list" cliche yet?)...

Kate, where are The Lollies playing? I'd be interested in hearing what you sound like...

― emil.y, Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

They're great, like a cross between the Strokes and Abba.

― Tom, Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

::thwacks Tom::

Please see this thread for details. I don't know if we're going to save UK guitar music, we can have fun trying. ;-)

― Kate the Saint, Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"People have been saying that the guitar is dead and guitar bands are on their way out since before the Beatles were signed"

Have they? Name someone ...

― phil, Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Dick Rowe

― mark s, Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"guitar music" .."electronic music".... I think that jeff mills is closer to motorhead than to oval .

― francesco, Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Mimi, John Lennon's Aunt. erm, apparently that The Music (worst band name ever? or just designed to sound like Ashcroft? discuss.) debut is going for 40 quid. the track on that nme comp wasn't that bad, he admits grudgingly. kind of verve before urban hymns.

bill

― Bill, Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'll answer this question when my Life Without Buildings import arrives tomorrow. But judging from my complete willingness to listen to half-minute clips of their singles over and over again, I think I'll be quite taken by the full-length.

― Nitsuh, Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Honest answer? The same thing that's pulled UK guitar music's ass out of the fire innumerable times before: American guitar music. Duh. Expect the British nu-Metal thing to take off and come and storm the shores of the states 4 yrs. down the road. And expect that the hip-hop influences will be tinted by british rap, and thus it will be a much more pleasant and laid-back hybrid vibe.

― Sterling Clover, Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Sterling's post just made me realize that Therapy? could actually have been considered "ahead of their time."

― Nitsuh, Wednesday, 8 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

three years pass...

This is the best bit of internet searching i have ever done. this thread is humerous beyond belief, and it is my conclusion that Brits are far more 'intellectual' (pardon the cliche) than North Americans.

I googled for "New British Music" to see how The Killers and Snow Patrol rate in the UK.. and found this.

I live in Canada. Like The Music. i've got their LP. I like every track. Dunno if it's going to save guitar music, but I think we have to rely on Radiohead's fallbacks to the guitar to do that. You think?

I used to like Oasis. I know, I know. Hey, I was young, and senseless. I suppose this is my way of atoning.

Ha.

― Jake Westmorland, Friday, 8 October 2004 01:28 (twenty years ago)

oh GOD

― Howard Wine (nordicskilla), Friday, 8 October 2004 01:33 (twenty years ago)

don't be such an intellectual

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 8 October 2004 02:02 (twenty years ago)

Sorry, but that post was so humerous.

― Howard Wine (nordicskilla), Friday, 8 October 2004 02:32 (twenty years ago)

i'll pardon the cliche!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 8 October 2004 03:03 (twenty years ago)

SNICKER SNICKER

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 8 October 2004 03:03 (twenty years ago)

Wow, now THIS is a thread.

― Bimble (bimble), Friday, 8 October 2004 08:19 (twenty years ago)

The North American ignoramuses let it down.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 8 October 2004 08:21 (twenty years ago)

Its like a tape of people you know chatting, two years before you knew them. For me, anyway...

― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 8 October 2004 08:23 (twenty years ago)

God, I used to be annoying!

(Anyone who quips "what do you mean, 'used to be'?" will generate a revival of the steel toed boots. Heh.)

― Danger Whore (kate), Friday, 8 October 2004 08:24 (twenty years ago)

I was about to say Keane have already done, then it suddenly struck me they have no guitar player. Oh well. Anyway, UK guitar music is in no danger, it only needs more people to discover it again.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 8 October 2004 12:56 (twenty years ago)

"Anyone who quips "what do you mean, 'used to be'?" will generate a revival of the steel toed boots."

Hmmmm.

Are they thigh-length?

Stiletto heels?

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 8 October 2004 13:01 (twenty years ago)

Futureheads don't sound bad.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 October 2004 14:51 (twenty years ago)

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