Rap is to music as graffiti is to art

"words" aren't exactly found objects though, oops

(that "or" was taken from my monthly phone statement)

I love music

but

I hate people.

This thread confirms this.

My current get-rich scheme could REALLY work! And that's why it's a secret! I think the way things are today, if you're clued in to culture and resourceful, you can make a shitload of money in a few years.

I think the way things are today, if you're clued in to culture and resourceful, you can make a shitload of money in a few years

taking sides: making a platinum hip hop album or creating "who farted" T-shirts

One thing's for sure though, if you put that bumper sticker on your car, you're almost inviting people to tag it.

The latter is certainly much easier!

Exactly. And yet I think graffiti is art and still read it as an insult at first. It was when I started thinking about it that I thought, "Ha, you dumb shit, it's not even offensive! It's true!" And then I realized I may be the dumb shit for presuming it was meant as a smartass spiteful bumpersticker.

This sort of thing happens a lot on ILX.

Hoo boy! Maybe doomie was actually writing a book. It seems like something a lot of people would think of and yet I don't know that it's really been done before. When I came up with the idea and mentioned it to my friend, he thought it was a great idea. The problem with the idea really was that I expected it to sort of write itself and had no idea what the point would be, other than the reactions.

If I was concerned with the past and trying to be a big ass liar...

1. I wouldn't have told everyone I was Nude Spock
2. I didn't work at my old job anymore when I came on as Scaredy Cat (different IP address)
3. I upgraded to Time Warner Cable (different home IP address)
4. I wouldn't have given my real name (Nathan Snyder).
5. I would probably be a lot more like Nude Spock.

Closest thing to Nude Spock is "Meat For Millar" which was just a plain old interesting challenge for me. Other people were getting riled as fuck when I wasn't even being a dick or angry.

Are we clear yet? The only reason my face is not on the internet is because I don't want it photoshopped onto some orgy scene or something.

for your sake i REALLY hope your get-rich-quick scheme doesn't involve adultfriendfinder.com

I don't understand. If you mean I'm an asshole on a regular basis, I think you're taking something the wrong way. Like I said, that happens a lot on ILX. It's weird the levels of hostility that appear out of nowhere, almost (on threads that don't involve me).

No, my get rich quick scheme involves something a lot of people with my skills have already done and become rich. It's sort of like the "who farted" t-shirt idea in that it's entirely idea driven and with a straightforward product that culture vultures buy up.

I saw 2 Free Winona t-shirts at that stupid Siren Festival and I was wondering if they bought them from the site or if they were the people running that website. The shirts they sell are AWFUL and unfunny.

Mmm, I dont know that that's what I did at all. I mean, what'd I do? I said I was black!

I don't know that you should give a fuck what I have to say, but I'll tell you one thing for sure-- I'm definitely not racist. If you want to know what I think on any topic regarding race, just ask a direct question and I'll give you a direct answer.

I don't know what that means. I do know, however, that I felt fucking awful doing the Nude Spock stuff. Actually, twisted-guts awful because I didn't really believe that I was saying anything too terribly fucked up, just different perspectives on things that really define society, and I would end up in gigantic arguments that, for me, required a lot of thought and effort to stay focused and really try to back weak arguments like, "minorities have the same opportunities everyone else has," (or words like that). I mean, personally, if I was on the other end of that argument, I would said, "You know what? You're ignorant." ... and be done with the thread for good.

No, I'm really not like that at all. I don't really fuck with people ever. I've never been in a fight and I rarely, rarely, rarely get in verbal arguments (except with my old boss who really used to piss me off). The last fucked up thing I said that I really wish I could've taken back immediately was on the "Hug Your Dad" thread, which I totally did not mean the way it sounded. Other than that, I can vaguely be a smartass, but I try to be positive more than anything. Fucking with people isn't positive at all.

-- (neuromancer@antisocial.com

What did I say I was? I know I said I was something other than white, because I remember saying I was mixed and grew up in the ghetto or something. That's why when I outed myself under Scaredy Cat moniker, I said, "total white guy from upstate NY."
I guess I didn't say black because now I'm remembering I said something like, "if I was black I'd hate you," when you were called ethan.

Nah, my idea is nowhere near as gimmicky as a CONCLUSIONS mat. Although, I bet the guy who made that is a millionaire, too. My idea is more like Fubu, but the idea is great. It's not just as simple as a label or anything or even the "for us by us" concept, but it is something a hell of a lot of people would identify with right away.

dont pretend you werent an asshole before just because youve discovered magnetic bracelets and phrenology now

Um, excuse me but I had a magnetic bracelet on as Nude Spock, which I don't think helped anything (I had broken my arm skiing a few months prior). I don't wear a magnetic bracelet now! Also, never been into phrenology or palm reading, astrology, tarot, i ching or coin tosses.

No, not at all.

The other thing is I came up with a concept for the website that I have absolutely never seen before. And that's rare. I discussed it with a few people who I know won't steal the idea and I could see in their face that they were blown away by the idea.

So, yeah, it will be cool. It just takes some money and some time, but hopefully not a lot of either.

Dude, that is some fucked up shit. That was a completely brilliant find. People on this board are, like, really sly. It's really weird (but cool) -- the level of "you either get it or you don't" jokes. And not a whole hell of a lot of ROTFLMAO responses, which is also great.

Seriously, though, since this has turned into a thread about me. When I first outted myself as Nude Spock and everything, it was just because I felt guilty and so I was waiting for people to tell me to go away, which I felt I would've deserved, but nobody did, so I stayed. I notice when people take potshots at me all the time because I have some weird beliefs, but it doesn't bother me, really and I understand it.

But, if there's really some general lingering bad vibes on me, I'll split. I don't want to harsh everyone's buzz. It seems like a lot of the threads I start get a lot of interest sometimes. I don't know, I can split though, if you want.

No, racism isn't cool at all. The slant of my book wasn't to "go into chatrooms and be and asshole." I wanted to make a book about chatrooms, period, versus regular dialogue and hopefully get some interesting currents throughout, especially great if something really unexpected happened. And I wanted to design it a special way that I can't describe, really.

So, all I was about was saying things I sort of thought about anyway, the things that divide people-- like stereotypes of all sorts, not just race-- and get into it. Sometimes by playing devil's advocate, I sort of cornered myself and I would realize that I can't just change all of a sudden now that I've gone down this road. And I think I kept trying to steer out of it, but it basically became impossible since every thread was turning into arguments about the same stuff.

I thought of it only after being on ILX for a while because I had never before encountered such a group of people on any message board. People who really had things to say. A lot of you are writers, I've gathered, which is probably why. But, any one of you could do the same idea much better, I'm sure. I was going to figure it out afterward, just rereading it all. I was pretty glad when the editor moved away and there was no chance anymore because it didn't really go anywhere and during the rereading process, I felt vile and there was nothing about it that would make me like it as a book unless I pretended like I wasn't Nude Spock at all, but had began observing him, like that old Disney cartoon where the psychologist is observing Donald Duck and his many fits of anger as he goes about his daily routine. And, while that might've made me feel better about the book in relation to myself, it still sucked and there was no point. It was just aggro.

Other than that, you gotta be blind or interpreting it wrong to believe I was an asshole in that thread. All I wanted to do is be back up a statement that I thought was wrongfully attacked, which is something everyone on this board does.

People go apeshit here over things like classical music.

you combination of bravado and irony (a game that's as smarmy and shopworn when you're on stage as when the indie kids are) won't get you any further, so move back in with your mom again and spend some time reconsidering your strategy.

you and he both need to realise that he, nor anyone else has a monopoly on the tactic of addressing someone uncivilly to get their attention.

People killin’, people dyin’
Children hurt and you hear them cryin’
Can you practice what you preach
And would you turn the other cheek

Father, Father, Father help us
Send us some guidance from above
‘Cause people got me, got me questionin’
Where is the love (Love)

Where is the love (The love)
Where is the love (The love)
Where is the love
The love, the love

It just ain’t the same, always unchanged
New days are strange, is the world insane
If love and peace is so strong
Why are there pieces of love that don’t belong
Nations droppin’ bombs
Chemical gasses fillin’ lungs of little ones
With the ongoin’ sufferin’ as the youth die young
So ask yourself is the lovin’ really gone
So I could ask myself really what is goin’ wrong
In this world that we livin’ in people keep on givin’ in
Makin’ wrong decisions, only visions of them dividends
Not respectin’ each other, deny thy brother
A war is goin’ on but the reason’s undercover
The truth is kept secret, it’s swept under the rug
If you never know truth then you never know love
Where’s the love, y’all, come on (I don’t know)
Where’s the truth, y’all, come on (I don’t know)
Where’s the love, y’all

People killin’, people dyin’
Children hurt and you hear them cryin’
Can you practice what you preach
And would you turn the other cheek

Father, Father, Father help us
Send us some guidance from above
‘Cause people got me, got me questionin’
Where is the love (Love)

Where is the love (The love)
Where is the love (The love)
Where is the love
The love, the love

I feel the weight of the world on my shoulder
As I’m gettin’ older, y’all, people gets colder
Most of us only care about money makin’
Selfishness got us followin’ our own direction
Wrong information always shown by the media
Negative images is the main criteria
Infecting the young minds faster than bacteria
Kids act like what they see in the cinema
Yo’, whatever happened to the values of humanity
Whatever happened to the fairness in equality
Instead in spreading love we spreading animosity
Lack of understanding, leading lives away from unity
That’s the reason why sometimes I’m feelin’ under
That’s the reason why sometimes I’m feelin’ down
There’s no wonder why sometimes I’m feelin’ under
Gotta keep my faith alive til love is found

People killin’, people dyin’
Children hurt and you hear them cryin’
Can you practice what you preach
And would you turn the other cheek

Father, Father, Father help us
Send us some guidance from above
‘Cause people got me, got me questionin’
Where is the love (Love)

Where is the love (The love)
Where is the love (The love)
Where is the love (The love)

Where is the love (The love)
Where is the love (The love)
Where is the love (The love)

Pick up something like one of the Attik's "Noise" books and tell me how you would describe that. Since I am a designer, the book was primarily a vehicle for design, although it was intented to be read, not illegible abstract art).

"stock photos for snobs"

"conspicuous austerity: chapter VII"

"il conformista surrealistico"

"award bait"

"a special way that i can't describe"