The curious sensation of watching the VH-1 ODB-on-parole special and becoming very moved

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The part where Dirt is trying to record his part of a song for a Neptunes comp and is clearly struggling, trying to figure out how to translate the blithe madness of his pre-prison, pre-no-drugs persona into his new, visibly troubled self while a bunch of label people look at him expectantly cut me to the quick.

And then the part where Pharrell Williams went into the booth and said, "Do you!," trying to make ODB feel more comfortable and they smile a little bit at each other and ODB proceeds to rip it marks the second time in a month a piece of media featuring Pharrell moved me.

― Ess, Friday, 8 August 2003 17:28 (twenty-three years ago)

I said on another thread how he sounds so happy on "Pop Shit" and how great it is that he left jail signed to the roc and jumped straight into the studio

Why did Pharrel say "Do you!"?

― sean g, Friday, 8 August 2003 17:38 (twenty-three years ago)

i think in the context he meant "do what you do/be yourself"

― Al (sitcom), Friday, 8 August 2003 17:43 (twenty-three years ago)

Dirt had trouble finishing his verse, and then when Pharrell asked him to sing something over the intro, he got very uncertain, clearly unsure if he could come up with something. So he asks Pharrell to come up with something, and Pharrell says "do you!" to try and get Dirty's confidence back. And then Dirty is able to do it, singing "Guess who's home! Guess who's home!" in this really joyous tone.

― Ess, Friday, 8 August 2003 17:43 (twenty-three years ago)

Man that's great

― sean g, Friday, 8 August 2003 17:45 (twenty-three years ago)

Wow I need cable. I seriously want to hug Dirty. I feel so protective of him, like more protective of him than I am of a lot of people I actually know.

― Tom Breihan (Tom Breihan), Friday, 8 August 2003 18:19 (twenty-three years ago)

In the words of Willie Nelson, he's an angel flying too close to the ground....His first album is truly genius, and the second is one of the scariest examples of drug induced mania since Funhouse by the Stooges. Ugly, but compelling.

― Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Friday, 8 August 2003 18:31 (twenty-three years ago)

I thought the vh-1 piece on Dirty was fascinating.. what's up with his manager tho?

― bill stevens (bscrubbins), Friday, 8 August 2003 19:11 (twenty-three years ago)

His manager seems to be a somewhat inept weirdo who lucked into latching onto Dirty when ODB was in prison and didn't have many people to count on, etc.

The moments with Pharrell really got to me too. But I think I saw it somewhat less positively; Pharrell, bless him, was so visibly giddy to get to work with Dirty again, he was really encouraging him and stuff, but Dirt really had no confidence at all... and he only sung the "guess who's home" line after Pharrell tossed it at him off the top of his head.

I was also really bummed when ODB said that life without drugs didn't seem worth living. And the thing with RZA was pretty nasty.

has dirty always been this, uh, large? He reminded me of a black Jimminy Glick at times!

― Adrian (Adrian Langston), Saturday, 9 August 2003 00:15 (twenty-three years ago)

You just have to wonder what actually happened to him in prison. They kind of glossed over it, whatever happened in there is not the kind of thing that you can just let go of.

― Mike Taylor (mjt), Saturday, 9 August 2003 03:08 (twenty-three years ago)

what happened between ODB and RZA?

― vahid (vahid), Saturday, 9 August 2003 03:50 (twenty-three years ago)

RZA was reticent about letting ODB out of his Wu contract when Dirty was trying to get a deal with Roc a fella after being released. ODB basically resents the entire Wu Tang Clan for, as he sees it, not having been there for him when he was in prison. I didn't really catch all the details about what ODB, Damon Dash and RZA worked out, but Dirty and RZA spent a brief amount of very uncomfortable studio time together, and it ended with Dirty noting that RZA, his cousin, had always been there for him and now he doesn't trust him at all.

― Adrian (Adrian Langston), Saturday, 9 August 2003 05:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Dirt-Dog needs RZA beats though. The "Return" album they did together was brilliant and I'm not sure the Neptunes or Just Blaze or Kanye West or anyone will be able to get that genius out of ODB like his ol' cuz. I've heard RZA had his problems with Killah Priest too.

― Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Saturday, 9 August 2003 12:13 (twenty-three years ago)

I saw ODB about a month ago at a Vice party. Brooklyn Zoo went on first and tried to get things going, but they were such inept performers and wanted for stage presense, so nothing good came of it. They mostly ended up bitching out the crowd and complaining about the monitor (which was quite low, but it couldn't go any higher for sure).
Then ODB comes on and WRECKS SHIT. Major stage presense, everyone loves him. He had put on a little weight and we could all see it, and his endurance was clearly being pushed after three songs or so -- like he was trying to get his body to do the same shit when he was strung out, only sober. It was a little sad, but if he could get his shit straight and get his stamina back, he could dust about any show out there right now.

-- ModJ (nomai...), August 8th, 2003.

― Previous ModJ Post, Saturday, 9 August 2003 15:31 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm not sure i agree that odb needs rza beats. I'm not a massive fan of nigga please but the best beats by a millllion miles are the irv gotti and neptunes ones. If Just can kncok up some huge fuck off dutty killer dance beats like "Flipside" i think odb will be better than ever

― sean g, Saturday, 9 August 2003 15:37 (twenty-three years ago)

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