Okay, so which one is the *worst* Bowie Record?

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Well, we've all had a field day espousing Lodger, Man Who Sold the World and Alladin Sane are his best*; But which was his worst?
I'd say its Tonight. Though if I'm in a bad mood, I'd assert the Ryko cassette version of Station to Station.
But whats your opinion?

* Note = Yer all wrong. Its a tie between Diamond Dogs and Ziggy Stardust.

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Monday, 11 August 2003 20:32 (twenty-two years ago)

It's "Tonight" for two big reasons:

1. It wasted two classic '80s Bowie tracks ("Loving The Alien" and "Blue Jean") that could have been so much more.

2. Bowie "interprets" "God Only Knows" the same way Chuck Heston tore through the famous tag line from Soylent Green..."God only knows...it's people!"

Erick H (Erick H), Monday, 11 August 2003 20:44 (twenty-two years ago)

'ziggy stardust and the lord custoses from mars'

geeta (geeta), Monday, 11 August 2003 20:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Wouldn't it have to be "Never Let Me Down?" I've never heard it, but, er..."Zeroes?" That cover?

What's the problem with the Ryko cassette of Station to Station in particular? Fidelity?

M Specktor (M Specktor), Monday, 11 August 2003 21:06 (twenty-two years ago)

god only knows. a cover version from hell. what the frag was that all about. that one song was the dawning of realisation that i was not to buy another bowie lp. that is until tin machine.
but thats another story.
onwards. m.e/ireallylovemusic

mark e (mark e), Monday, 11 August 2003 21:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Never Let Me Down by a mile, along with Tonight the only ones I will not have in my collection. What's weird is, remember the critical lauding NLMD got when it came out? The triumphant hoo haw it got from the likes of Rolling Stone (admittedly by then slipping into irrelevancy)? It was the big return of Bowie the art-rocker? Of course they've said this about every subsequent album he's put out which makes me think he has very good PR people. Problem being that, even though these praises are generally OTM (at least beginning with Outside), I don't think a lot of peoplbe believe them because of NLMD. It probably did more damage to his career than Dancing in the Streets.

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Monday, 11 August 2003 21:53 (twenty-two years ago)

although it its defence it has "time will crawl" on it which is better than anything on Tonight.

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Monday, 11 August 2003 21:54 (twenty-two years ago)

'Heathen' is pretty bad

dave q, Monday, 11 August 2003 22:16 (twenty-two years ago)

In order of der stinkiness:

1. Never Let Me Down (although the tour enabled Peter Frampton to afford a new refrigerator box to live in).

2. "Tonight" (the bad experience of listening to this was exceeded for me only by watching his short "concept" film that he did around the same time).

3. "Tin Machine 2" (wherein the bottom of the barrel that was Tin Machine 1 was scraped up to reveal a hitherto unknown layer of tuneless sludge).

Nom De Plume (Nom De Plume), Monday, 11 August 2003 22:42 (twenty-two years ago)

I saw the Glass Spider tour. It's NLMD, hands down. Of the canonical greats, I'd say Young Americans is the weakest.

The saddest thing about postcanon dud Tonight, other than the aforementioned two good songs and the maybe-could've-been-good-if-someone'd-finished-them "Neighborhood Threat" and "Big Boys," is the way its bland adult contemporary crappiness obscured the last truly excellent permutation of the whole Bowie myth, the long-form video for "Blue Jean."

It's fucking amazing. Encapsulates so much, so nicely. Down to the prophetic articulation of post-Let's Dance doom. The last lines, nerd-Bowie to director Temple as the camera pulls off into the sky: "Are you calling me clever-clever?"

brian nemtusak (sanlazaro), Monday, 11 August 2003 23:07 (twenty-two years ago)

What's weird is, remember the critical lauding NLMD got when it came out?
Thats odd...I remember RS giving it a brutal bitchslapping. Which is almost but not quite deserved. It was a weak record -- especially the B-side -- but it wasn't as bad as Tonight. In fact, I'm tempted to spread the heretical notion that the A-side of NLMD is almost as good as Let's Dance.

Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 00:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Album art definitely gayer, though.

brian nemtusak (sanlazaro), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 00:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Come on -- is any record of his more desperate sounding than Earthling? To boot, it apparently signaled the end of his doing anything you really, really had to have...

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 00:52 (twenty-two years ago)

all the best '70s work is bowie trying to throw off the shackles and albatross-like rock'n'roll values as defined for so many other people by ziggy stardust -- his bravery in seemingly moving against a successful formula and his creativity, (and this i suppose equates in listeners' minds as 'sincerity' ?) he could turn pretty fast on a dime back then

and the more interesting of the recent albums are probably the result of bowie trying to escape from the tin machine blueprint -- '80s material like let's dance, tonight and the tin machine albums damned expectations of him and confounded fans of the good '70s stuff

yet the late '90s comeback albums, while often briefly hailed under the influence of superficial familiarity as comparable in quality to one of the good '70s albums, they still just seem like he's trying too hard to run back to those same '70s albums and/or run away from the '82 -> '90 dross

so his best first period ('73->'80) was the sound of someone desperately differentiating himself, the diversity that fans found appealing was bowie's constant manic hunt for new directions, bowie running away -- yet the recent 'comeback' stuff is bowie desperately trying to hang on to something he might hope he can still do well -- more desperate now then ever -- where to run to now ?

george gosset (gegoss), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 01:06 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm really surprised there hasn't been any hate here for Black Tie White Noise. Maybe I'm the only person who thought it was completely worthless trash?

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 02:12 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't care for it. Or Earthling. Or Heathen. But I was so not drawn in in each case I don't have much to say--I couldn't, for example, really say which of the three I like least.

brian nemtusak (sanlazaro), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 02:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah but "Black Tie White Noise" the song has a special delirious charm for me. Maybe it's just that groove going around and around (and, of course, the vocal stylings of the immortal Al B. Sure)...

And really: "Nite Flights" isn't all that bad. Certainly, it's no "God Only Knows," fer chrissakes...

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 04:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Never Let Me Down, no doubt about it. Up to that point I'd bought every single record he released from when I first got into him, even to the extent of buying both 7" and 12" versions of singles when there was no difference between them, that sort of thing. Jesus, I even bought the Labyrinth soundtrack.

But I wouldn't have Never Let Me Down in the house. It really stinks.

James Ball (James Ball), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 11:52 (twenty-two years ago)


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