TS: Max Martin vs. Desmond Child

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I'll take Max, even though Child's got probably gets laid more and is Celia Cruz's nephew.

― Chris O'Connor (Chris O'Connor), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 18:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Max Martin easy

― nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 18:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Max for god's sake, jesus.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 18:57 (twenty-two years ago)

TS: "It's My Life" vs. "Livin' On a Prayer"

Anyway, Child wins for "I Was Made For Lovin' You" and "You Should be High Love".

― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 19:03 (twenty-two years ago)

"I Was Made for Lovin' You," please. Weak-ass cheese.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 19:05 (twenty-two years ago)

O c'mon, Kiss does disco! What's wrong with that?

― Chris O'Connor (Chris O'Connor), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 19:21 (twenty-two years ago)

I had high hopes and then I actually heard the thing!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 19:22 (twenty-two years ago)

I like the Paulina Rubio version.

― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Tuesday, 12 August 2003 19:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Some of DC's solo stuff is good, or at least amusing. "Then The Truth Came Out" is classic and I can't believe nobody's used it in a sitcom yet.

― dave q, Wednesday, 13 August 2003 05:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I'd have said "Max Martin" right off, but come to think of it, at Pazz & Jop time I've tended to vote Desmond ("Livin' La Vida Loca" and Twisted Angel). I'll have to give this more thought.

― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 21:47 (twenty-two years ago)

See, Frank, you've caught onto the complexity of the exercise, because while Desmond may be a cheeseball, he's a genius cheeseball.

― Chris O'Connor (Chris O'Connor), Thursday, 14 August 2003 00:18 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...

Watching "Remaking Vince Neil" right now, and Desmond Child COULD NOT POSSIBLY BE CREEPIER.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 5 March 2005 07:36 (twenty years ago)

Not that much of a fan of Max Martin, but certainly choosing him ahead of Desmond Child anyway. Max Martin's songs sounded a bit alike, but other than that they were not the worst you could hear on the hitlists during the late 90s.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 5 March 2005 13:02 (twenty years ago)

Perhaps another good TS would be Max Martin and Cheiron vs. Brian Higgins and Xenomania. I think I'd just about side with Higgins on this.

― Nick H (Nick H), Saturday, 5 March 2005 18:18 (twenty years ago)

Alex - I've missed the "remaking," can you elaborate? Thanks!

P.S. The converse to this T/S would be Holly Knight vs. Linda Perry, right?

― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Saturday, 5 March 2005 18:47 (twenty years ago)

Max Martin, hands down. He co-wrote the only Celine Dion song that doesn't make me run screaming from the room.

― Tantrum (Tantrum The Cat), Saturday, 5 March 2005 20:15 (twenty years ago)

Well, "Remaking" is -- I guess -- going to be a series wherein they find some washed-up has-been (like Vince), and basically spend loads of time and money attempting to revive their career via wardrobe change, musical make-over, fitness regimen and -- worryingly -- plastic surgery. I think the thing I found most reprehensible about the whole thing was that Vince Neil DOESN'T DESERVE a second chance. He's an irreponsible, idiotic jackass who is by all accounts and immature, disagreeable, spoilt alcoholic. But, whatever, in comes a gaggle of fawning sycophants to help get Vince back on his feet (including to Queer Eye knock-offs who say inane things like "that shirt is so way, way hott on you, Vince!"). Along the way, heinous cheese-whiz merchant Desmond Child is recruited. Now, his is a name that is tossed about the industry with great reverance (having worked with big names on big hits), BUT DEAR LORD, HAVE YOU EVER SEEN THIS MAN? He's like a cross between Gary Oldman in Bram Stroker's Dracula and Rip Taylor.

..and the song he give Vince to mangle is mawkish crap, of course.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 5 March 2005 21:13 (twenty years ago)

punctuation and spelling went right out the window there, sorry.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 5 March 2005 21:14 (twenty years ago)

Tantrum, you're implying that the other two Celine Dion songs he co-wrote do make you run screaming from the room.

― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 9 March 2005 23:39 (twenty years ago)

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