The Beatles/Stones for corny indie fuXXors? As a confirmed c.i.f. myself (and a Bush Sr.['grunge' in indiespeak]-era relic at that) I'm wondering why more ppl haven't ripped off/copied "Mind Playing Tricks", self-hatred, self-immolation, disgust, squalor, paranoia, brain damage, drugs drugs and more drugs, would've thought it an irresistable formula for an 'underground' of ANY description, and re 'Undergrounds' the first time I heard "MPTOM" it I thought 'great this'll be like VU where in 10/15 years there'll be 10,000 records that are like this one', so where are they?
― dave q, Wednesday, 13 August 2003 09:24 (twenty-two years ago)
Apparently Biggie did records sort of like the Geto Boys one, is that true? Honestly, I'm really ignorant, I missed the whole 90s for reasons mentioned elsewhere
― dave q, Wednesday, 13 August 2003 09:26 (twenty-two years ago)
yeah, is it true? i'm with dave and need educating. but where do the beastie boys come in here? no mention is enough mention for me...
― gaz (gaz), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 09:33 (twenty-two years ago)
Well, in the era and circles I mentioned the BBs seemed to have untouchable status, "I don't really like them but they're good obv." etc., whereas with the GBs it was pretty clearly split between ppl who really hated them and said so at every op and ppl who wouldn't even consider listening to anything else for months on end, I mean how COULD you?
― dave q, Wednesday, 13 August 2003 09:46 (twenty-two years ago)
the GBs were soooo much better it defies all reason to think anything else - plus any woman i went out with round this time invariably HATED them which meant they were pretty wonderful in my book...
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 09:58 (twenty-two years ago)
wha? in quickie he acts the asshole but ends up fckn her all night. shes the one giving the orders. surely no woman would argue with fuck a war? what kind of woman were you with dave?
― gaz (gaz), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 10:03 (twenty-two years ago)
Geto Boys all the way. Mind of a Lunatic smashes everything the Beastie Boys ever recorded.
Biggie also gained a lot from Kool G Rap & DJ Polo.
See Straight Jacket:
Help me doctor doctor cause I'm seein lots of spots
I'm thinkin of pink elephants with little polka dots
I'm tired crazy tired but I can not get no sleep
Cause every time I close my eyes I think I'm six feet deep
I feel I'm goin slow as hell but everything is speedin
Last night I woke up screamin and my bathroom walls were bleedin
I thought I fell asleep at work but then when I awoke
I was all alone and had my own hands on my throat
Clippings from the newspaper of murders my library
Sometimes I get a urge to walk inside a cemetary
I looked into a mirror seen a rope around my neck
I smoked a lot of cigarettes, cause I'm a nervous wreck
Tryin to relax, I ran some water in the tub
Vision somebody slaughtered, then the water turned to blood
I'm runnin down the hallway tryin to reach an exit door
The more and more I run seems like it's further than before
Voices sometimes tell me what I won't do, what I will do
Voices in my head right now are tellin me to kill you
Filled up with anxiety, I went to Lover's Lane
Seen a couple kissin, then blew out the brother's brain
I feel the world's against me and the women are so dirty
I hate women today because my mother used to hurt me
I think I'm goin crazy Doc no longer can I hack it
Please, doctor please, put me in a straight jacket
A lady picked me up hitchikin, what a big mistake
Several hours later, there's a body by the lake
Walked into a train station, headed towards the back
Caught a flashback, and pushed a man right on the track
I'm in my darkroom inside my house that is deserted
developin the photo of a hoe that I just murdered
I took a walk one night because I wanted to get out
I stepped outside, I paused, and I was back inside my house
Called up PLENTY doctors, told em all about my health
My phone just plays a dial tone, I'm talkin to myself
Snap back to reality, at least that's what I thought
Runnin from the spirits of the bodies I just caught
I can't escape this hell I'm in, not even in my dreams
I cover both my ears, because I'm sick of hearin screams
I been a mental case since I was in the seventh grade
Stabbed another student, licked his blood off of my blade
I got two personalities inside sometimes they battle
When I look at my picture all I see is scribble scrabble
I feel I'm really losin it, I need to write to Abby
The characters on TV try to reach right out and grab me
I always hear somebody talkin bout they gonna do me
But I listen again and it's those voices talkin to me
You heard of shadowboxin? I see mine and then attack it
Please, doctor please, put me in a straight jacket
― Andy K (Andy K), Wednesday, 13 August 2003 14:01 (twenty-two years ago)