What groups/artists/records/styles/things do you find hardest to write about? And why?
― Tom (Groke), Friday, 15 August 2003 06:55 (twenty-two years ago)
― st cloud kid of death, Friday, 15 August 2003 07:12 (twenty-two years ago)
I guess that's why it's easier posting about stuff because I can tell a story of a night out or something and it resonates a bit more. As a general problem, people need to have heard the tune already to get a review I do I'd say. But this might be true of all reviews.
I think now I'd find it difficult to write about rock music, I was given an Irish indie band to do for Hot Press there a few weeks ago and there's just too much of an axe to grind. When it came to the crunch and they replaced my review with someone giving it 8 out of 10 and "one to watch for the future" racing post nonsense I was pretty annoyed.
I'm not sure if rock is hard for me to write about, I just think that it IS hard in terms of practicality to criticise tired shite indie rock in print mags. I had a line in it about how the constant efforts to appear passionate in rock music made idiots of bands like the one I was reviewing and I said it was due to the legacy of Cobain and Richey Edwards and stuff.
The editor was talking to me about it and he said "but are you saying Cobain/Edwards never made good music". I actually had to say "no of course not", he looked like he was about to cry.
Anyway that difficulty is not quite the topic I guess. I think I would like to write about pop more.
― Ronan (Ronan), Friday, 15 August 2003 07:14 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 15 August 2003 07:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― st cloud kid of death, Friday, 15 August 2003 07:17 (twenty-two years ago)
― st cloud kid of death, Friday, 15 August 2003 07:20 (twenty-two years ago)
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 15 August 2003 07:20 (twenty-two years ago)
― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 15 August 2003 07:23 (twenty-two years ago)
― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Friday, 15 August 2003 08:21 (twenty-two years ago)
This question was prompted by playing the new Broadcast record - they're a group who I find very hard to write about without it feeling really forced/false - I just can never find the right images.
St Cloud I think there may actually be some real live black people posting to ILX sometimes.
― Tom (Groke), Friday, 15 August 2003 08:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― st cool kid of death, Friday, 15 August 2003 08:33 (twenty-two years ago)
(nor have i ever seen him written well about)
― mark s (mark s), Friday, 15 August 2003 08:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― st cool kid of death, Friday, 15 August 2003 08:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Friday, 15 August 2003 08:44 (twenty-two years ago)
― nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Friday, 15 August 2003 08:45 (twenty-two years ago)
(haha "written well about", er yes that's a conceptual gag foax *sigh*)
― mark s (mark s), Friday, 15 August 2003 08:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― mark s (mark s), Friday, 15 August 2003 08:46 (twenty-two years ago)
The New Beats, i remember loving back in the day. Though that day was probably about a decade ago, so it's probably dated now...
― stevie (stevie), Friday, 15 August 2003 10:12 (twenty-two years ago)
"yes yes y'all" (came out last year,can't remember who wrote it though...)"rap attack" david toopboth very good on the early stuff...
― st cloud cool kid of death, Friday, 15 August 2003 10:57 (twenty-two years ago)
― stevie (stevie), Friday, 15 August 2003 11:34 (twenty-two years ago)
― st cloud cool kid of death, Friday, 15 August 2003 11:43 (twenty-two years ago)
I will write about almost anything, but I often feel out of my depth when it's a genre I don't know much about. Which is a shit, cos the genres I don't know much about are generally the ones I like most.
― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Friday, 15 August 2003 12:14 (twenty-two years ago)
― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Friday, 15 August 2003 12:22 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Friday, 15 August 2003 12:58 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Friday, 15 August 2003 13:50 (twenty-two years ago)
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 15 August 2003 13:54 (twenty-two years ago)
Cool. I got some other recommendations as well from another board I visit.
"rap attack" david toop
― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 15 August 2003 14:30 (twenty-two years ago)
― dleone (dleone), Friday, 15 August 2003 14:32 (twenty-two years ago)
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 15 August 2003 14:34 (twenty-two years ago)
i love writing about genres i know less about, and write about less often (eg: dance, hip hop). suddenly there's a whole new sonic territory to try to describe, and i don't have to hunt for the right reference - i can just talk about how it sounds and how it makes me feel, not necessarily how it fits into the greater genre.
also: dleone otm.
― Sean M (Sean M), Friday, 15 August 2003 14:43 (twenty-two years ago)
― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Friday, 15 August 2003 14:47 (twenty-two years ago)
Yeah, but only up to a point... after the tenth boring indie shite album, you just feel like writing "Refer to all previous reviews on boring indie shite, there are no more synonyms left for the word 'dull'".
― The Lex (The Lex), Friday, 15 August 2003 15:11 (twenty-two years ago)
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 15 August 2003 15:23 (twenty-two years ago)
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 15 August 2003 15:24 (twenty-two years ago)
(Note: you can dislike a record & still care about it)
― Mark (MarkR), Friday, 15 August 2003 16:38 (twenty-two years ago)
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 15 August 2003 16:42 (twenty-two years ago)
I think I find all music hard to write about, although I enjoy it (ha, masochistic tendencies?); but I especially enjoy (and put most into) writing about the ones I care about. And yeah, "care about" does not (ncessarily) mean "like".
― David A. (Davant), Friday, 15 August 2003 19:21 (twenty-two years ago)
These are all my limitations as a writer thus far and I think it's important to be a good (great) critic that you are able to provide a view on all of these musics articulately and insightfully ('the infinite criticism') (David Thompson) (separate brackets there) (note) (alright?). And I remember Matos saying something to the effect that if he feels he can't write about it it makes him want to more to prove to himself and to improve himself as a writer. This is how I feel, it's just hard to beat the ennui into practice.
― David. (Cozen), Friday, 15 August 2003 21:24 (twenty-two years ago)
wasn't it 'infinite sensitivity'?
Cozen, I don't think you should bother writing about most of those things.
― the pinefox, Sunday, 17 August 2003 12:30 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Sunday, 17 August 2003 14:13 (twenty-two years ago)
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Sunday, 17 August 2003 14:44 (twenty-two years ago)
― William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 17 August 2003 14:58 (twenty-two years ago)
And perhaps, yes, it was 'sensitivity' though I don't think I ever read this phrase anywhere and was passive-aggressively nibbling at what seemed to taste like cryptomnesia by putting Thomson in brackets, where he doesn't really ever belong.
― David. (Cozen), Sunday, 17 August 2003 16:12 (twenty-two years ago)
― the pinefox, Sunday, 17 August 2003 16:28 (twenty-two years ago)
― David. (Cozen), Sunday, 17 August 2003 17:26 (twenty-two years ago)