Recommend some 'Painkiller' type music

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Listening to 'Guts of a virgin' for the first time yesterday and that was a great blast. Zorn's squeals and blowing, Harris pounding drums and laswells cutting slabs really rocked it. the vocals are fun too.

This is the thread where we talk abt metal and jazz and then you recommend some of that type of stuff to me.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 16 August 2003 11:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, um, Last Exit obviously. You need the self-titled disc, Cassette Recordings '87 (also available as From The Board), Koln and especially Headfirst Into The Flames. (Stay away from The Noise Of Trouble and Iron Path, their only studio album.)

Yakuza's Ways Of The Dead. Ken Vandermark on guest sax on one track, but they've got a fulltime saxist, plus Tibetan throat-singing on one cut. Great stuff. On Century Media.

Check out two duo albums by Masayuki Takayanagi and Kaoru Abe—Mass Projection and Gradually Projection. Both recorded at the same concert.

Also, you may find Miles Davis' We Want Miles to be surprisingly stripped-down and quite metal in parts. Mike Stern's guitar was way underrated at the time, and there's some serious early-80s pre-hip-hop street-funk grooves on that record.

Oh, and Ronald Shannon Jackson's Decoding Society, when they had Vernon Reid and Melvin Gibbs in the band—Live At Montreux Jazz Festival and especially Earned Dreams are the ones to get.

And finally, Ephel Duath's The Painter's Palette and Gorguts' Obscura.

― Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Saturday, 16 August 2003 14:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Ephel Duath

And I thought bands were getting geeky enough being called Marillion and Cirith Ungol...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 16 August 2003 14:28 (twenty-two years ago)

''Check out two duo albums by Masayuki Takayanagi and Kaoru Abe—Mass Projection and Gradually Projection. Both recorded at the same concert.''

I have those and its not really in the same ballpark at all though mass is 'heavy'. 'Gradually' catches takayanagi on a lee konitz trip (i've done a thread on him already).

Thanks for the recommendations but I was looking for heavy metallers doing jazz. or vice-versa.

The thing abt Painkiller is that it was genre-busting at its best. Usually it doesn't do much for me.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 16 August 2003 14:43 (twenty-two years ago)

>I was looking for heavy metallers doing jazz. or vice-versa.

Then Yakuza is the one you want. Post-hardcore/death metal with saxophones.

― Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Saturday, 16 August 2003 14:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Heh, sorry. Thanks.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 16 August 2003 15:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Therion, Dark Tranquility, Moonspell or Dio(hehehe). Those are my suggestions. Though you can never go wrong with early In Flames.

― Fecal Jesus (mawill), Saturday, 16 August 2003 22:33 (twenty-two years ago)

How about the first two (released not recorded) Flying Luttenbachers albums, "Constructive Destruction" and "Destroy All Music"? Unbelievably aggressive speedcore jazz. They had a black-metal period later on, too, but those are the two I love to pieces. "Fist Through Glass"!

― Douglas (Douglas), Saturday, 16 August 2003 22:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Don't know Painkiller that well but Lungbutter does some post-hc/jazz/spazz/prog/noise kind of crossover stuff. Maybe I could burn some for you as well.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Saturday, 16 August 2003 23:04 (twenty-two years ago)

julio--your life will get better if you chill on the angry shit and come to terms with the first twenty pet shop boys singles. we won't tell anyone.

― dan (dan), Sunday, 17 August 2003 01:48 (twenty-two years ago)

also, you need to pick up "little birds have fast hearts" by the die like a dog quartet. it's got plenty of everything that you're looking for, and it's just fun.

― dan (dan), Sunday, 17 August 2003 01:50 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, second that luttenbachers recommendation, those two albums are shit of the ape.

― your null fame (yournullfame), Sunday, 17 August 2003 05:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Take like 5 vicodans and listen to "You Don't Have To Call Me Darlin'", the David Allen Coe version.

― Helltime Producto (Pavlik), Sunday, 17 August 2003 05:30 (twenty-two years ago)

''How about the first two (released not recorded) Flying Luttenbachers albums, "Constructive Destruction" and "Destroy All Music"? Unbelievably aggressive speedcore jazz. They had a black-metal period later on, too, but those are the two I love to pieces. "Fist Through Glass"!''

I got a copy of 'revenge of' from an ILXOR just this week and will play it now.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 17 August 2003 10:29 (twenty-two years ago)

''julio--your life will get better if you chill on the angry shit and come to terms with the first twenty pet shop boys singles. we won't tell anyone.''

see I don't listen to music on that superficial level you guys do ;)

'Painkiller' isn't angry at all.

''also, you need to pick up "little birds have fast hearts" by the die like a dog quartet. it's got plenty of everything that you're looking for, and it's just fun.''

got vol 1 and vol 2 so take that corny pop FuXors. Its alright but not quite 'painkiller' type music.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 17 August 2003 10:34 (twenty-two years ago)

What if someone owns the Pet Shop Boys' Discography and the Pain Killer 4-CD box? By the way, you should get that, Julio. Disc Four will own your world.

― Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Sunday, 17 August 2003 11:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Search out the Arcana alb (Derek Bailey/Bill Laswell/Tony Williams!!), the first Lifetime alb, that live Naked City rec w/ Haino, anything by Kevin Martin's God

― Andrew L (Andrew L), Sunday, 17 August 2003 12:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, and the Blind Idiot God alb that Zorn produced and plays on

― Andrew L (Andrew L), Sunday, 17 August 2003 12:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Judas Priest - Painkiller
Death - Painkiller

― Wyndham Earl, Sunday, 17 August 2003 13:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Julio, did you hear Zorn's Spy vs Spy? There are also a few tracks out there of Ruins playing with Zorn, and one track of Tatsuya Yoshida/Zorn/Yamatsuka Eye that kills. Also try Naked City's Leng T'che.

― dleone (dleone), Sunday, 17 August 2003 14:18 (twenty-two years ago)

No I haven't but will do.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 17 August 2003 18:04 (twenty-two years ago)

four years pass...

Destroy All Music remastered. Still awesome.

Lent a thrash friend my Painkiller box last weekend. He gave it back to me and said it was "cool, but too fuckin irregular."

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 22 November 2007 18:36 (eighteen years ago)

the only "Painkiller" one needs

http://www.yhandros.com/imagenes/judaspriestpainkiller.jpg

― latebloomer, Thursday, 22 November 2007 18:55 (eighteen years ago)

^ rong but happy bday anyways dude

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 22 November 2007 19:48 (eighteen years ago)

http://music.hyperreal.org/flightpath/label/sabres_of_paradise/images/pt011.jpg

― Tracer Hand, Thursday, 22 November 2007 19:50 (eighteen years ago)

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