The Genius of Guy Garvey/Elbow

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There truly is some greatness at work here.
Looking forward to the 'difficult third' album already.

― peter dee (peter dee), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 19:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Is the new one much different from "Asleep in the Back"?

This was probably covered in an earlier thread, but I'm curious. I liked their first one quite a bit.

― Nom De Plume (Nom De Plume), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 20:12 (twenty-one years ago)

If you liked 'Asleep' you should love 'Cast'.
Fell totally in love with 'Fugitive Motel' on first listen.

― peter dee (peter dee), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 20:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Go to Stylus and check the review from Monday. Tis indeed a fine record.

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 20:58 (twenty-one years ago)

it seems a little more complete and less flawed than asleep

switching off and not a job are beautiful examples of g.g's genius

ndee

― ndee, Tuesday, 19 August 2003 20:59 (twenty-one years ago)

peter dee OTM. This is the best album all year so far.

― person#0 (person#0), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 21:15 (twenty-one years ago)

The gorgeousness of 'Fugitive Motel' seconded. It's a much warmer record than Asleep In The Back, it's got this lovely soothing amniotic feel about it.

What I really like about it is that I know 100% that I don't love it as much as I will. Immediacy isn't an Elbow strong point - it took me about six months to really get into Asleep... - but the songs sort of sneak up on you gradually over a period of time.

― The Lex (The Lex), Tuesday, 19 August 2003 21:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I think its better than Asleep at the back, and is probably album of the year for me so far.
Going to see them at Virgin Megastore Tottenham Crt Rd tonight, should be good

― actionjackson, Wednesday, 20 August 2003 08:56 (twenty-one years ago)

The Lex, I've been listening to it for a few weeks now, and you're right, it grows (and is still growing now). Also both completely right about 'Fugitive Motel'. Transcendental.

― person#0 (person#0), Wednesday, 20 August 2003 09:05 (twenty-one years ago)

three years pass...

Three inseparably brilliant albums in a row. With the benefit of retrospect, thank heavens for Elbow.

― You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 16:44 (eighteen years ago)

I can't really see how they are all that much better than the gazillions of Triffids and Tindersticks that came before them.

― NickB (NickB), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 17:10 (eighteen years ago)

because although 90% of the time they're dull (but pleasantly so), they can - just occasionally - mine a seam of absolute fucking glory. listen to "grace under pressure" and weep. tears of blood.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Wednesday, 27 September 2006 21:11 (eighteen years ago)

four months pass...

Bump just for the bizarre sight of Lex praising dour Mancunian songwriters with guitars and beards.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 1 February 2007 13:08 (eighteen years ago)

he can be saved after all

― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Thursday, 1 February 2007 13:16 (eighteen years ago)

A fiver says the Lex doesn't like Elbow any more.

― a nuclear-powered carrot (braveclub), Thursday, 1 February 2007 13:18 (eighteen years ago)

5 quid? that's powerful currency. i almost went broke in london recently shelling the stuff out.

but to keep on topic, they have proven a pretty consistently great band

― Charlie Howard (the sphinx), Thursday, 1 February 2007 13:32 (eighteen years ago)

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Alex Macpherson
Date: Feb 1, 2007 1:29 PM
Subject: MODS
To: Matt DC, Steve M

Please delete all the posts made by someone who was clearly impersonating me four years ago in that awful Elbow thread.

Alex Macpherson

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 1 February 2007 13:33 (eighteen years ago)

Okay that was evil but hey.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 1 February 2007 13:33 (eighteen years ago)

rufflez

― vita susicivus (blueski), Thursday, 1 February 2007 13:35 (eighteen years ago)

I remember him liking Elbow quite clearly.

I didn't recall him posting here that long ago though.

― Hell Hath No Furry (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 1 February 2007 13:40 (eighteen years ago)

The best review on Elbow I've ever read is still Carsmile's opinion on their Glasto performance. It simply read 'AR$E MORE LIKE!'

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 1 February 2007 13:44 (eighteen years ago)

That impersonating person is quite clearly a danger, he appears to have planted indie cds in the house as well. i was going to tell alex before, but didn't want to alarm him

― Friendly Tree (688), Thursday, 1 February 2007 13:57 (eighteen years ago)

It is only right and fair you tell us which CDs, so we know what to beware of.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:29 (eighteen years ago)

I will investigate during my visit. The Lex can yet be saved.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:30 (eighteen years ago)

sorry i have to go home in an hour, and i don't have time to run through them

― Friendly Tree (688), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:31 (eighteen years ago)

he can be saved after all

-- to scour or to pop? (papiermachealamphibia...), February 1st, 2007.

The Lex can yet be saved.

-- Ned Raggett (ne...), February 1st, 2007.

hmm.

;-)

― Ned's foolish younger self (Haberdager), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:35 (eighteen years ago)

A universal impulse with a different intent (in that I wish to save him *from* Elbow).

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:36 (eighteen years ago)

BAN NEDDY JAGGER.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:37 (eighteen years ago)

Therefore I am your evil cyber-twin/antimatter counterpart, Ned! Which would explain a fair deal...

― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:38 (eighteen years ago)

You said it, not me.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:39 (eighteen years ago)

(Personally, I can do without familiars.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:39 (eighteen years ago)

Fair enough. You can have a thinly-disguised Mogwai reference instead!

― Ska Punk/Ned Raggett/aNtiCHriSt (Haberdager), Thursday, 1 February 2007 15:41 (eighteen years ago)

Elbow = Coldplay with a better record collection.

― Turangalila (Salvador), Thursday, 1 February 2007 17:10 (eighteen years ago)

don't agree, but hahah

― Charlie Howard (the sphinx), Thursday, 1 February 2007 17:12 (eighteen years ago)

Um, any British rock band that's better than Coldplay = Coldplay with a better record collection?

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:13 (eighteen years ago)

The point is they're not really that much better than Coldplay, imo.
Save for the song "Any Day Now," of course.

― Turangalila (Salvador), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:20 (eighteen years ago)

Well that's not a point I subscribe to. Their lyrics, melodies and arrangements are for more complex, intriguing and emotionally affecting (for me) than anything Coldplay have ever done.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:24 (eighteen years ago)

southall OTM

― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Thursday, 1 February 2007 18:56 (eighteen years ago)

I find their melodies uninspired. Also the chord progressions, key changes and arrangements are predictable and not unusual or interesting---generally just as obviously emotionally manipulative and blatantly derivative as Coldplay, actually. All wrapped up in a different "I own more late-period Talk Talk records than Coldplay" way.

― Turangalila (Salvador), Friday, 2 February 2007 16:53 (eighteen years ago)

rong

― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 2 February 2007 16:59 (eighteen years ago)

the drumming alone is so inspired and creative

― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 2 February 2007 16:59 (eighteen years ago)

your anglophilia has gone too far.

― vita susicivus (blueski), Friday, 2 February 2007 17:04 (eighteen years ago)

some have said that

― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 2 February 2007 17:05 (eighteen years ago)

cutty, you love Chris Morris as well as Elbow, dontcha? Consider yourself an honorary citizen...

― to scour or to pop? (Haberdager), Friday, 2 February 2007 17:05 (eighteen years ago)

Then I hope the drummer finds a better band.

― Turangalila (Salvador), Friday, 2 February 2007 17:06 (eighteen years ago)

i will have been to england three times in the past year come march

― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 2 February 2007 17:06 (eighteen years ago)

i'm like the reverse gareth

― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 2 February 2007 17:09 (eighteen years ago)

Reverse Pinefox as well then.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 2 February 2007 17:15 (eighteen years ago)

no thanks

― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 2 February 2007 17:19 (eighteen years ago)

Whole load of points just missed.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Friday, 2 February 2007 18:03 (eighteen years ago)

Skipping 209 messages at this point... Click here if you want to load them all.

erm, re the insults, marcello reminded sick he is an embrace fan.

― The Atlantis Mystery Solved! (Frogman Henry), Thursday, 9 October 2008 15:46 (sixteen years ago)

Need a lot more of that round here for sure (Tom xp). Bit of the old Charlie Endells.

― A. FIND MISSING LINK B. PUT IT TOGETHER C. BANG! (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 9 October 2008 15:46 (sixteen years ago)

Who's a high-earning dope-smoking 30-something? Cos I'm not any of those things. And you're only one of them afaik.

― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 9 October 2008 15:47 (sixteen years ago)

Seriously, Southall, go fuck yourself.

― A. FIND MISSING LINK B. PUT IT TOGETHER C. BANG! (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 9 October 2008 15:48 (sixteen years ago)

What's your beef, Marcello? PURELY that I like Elbow?

― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 9 October 2008 15:49 (sixteen years ago)

This year is one of the best years for music in, well, years and hardly anyone's talking about the good stuff on ILM. Do I have to start a thread on every single artist and talk to myself about them for six posts? Apart from Lex and Swygart no one else here seems to have a fucking clue.

Meanwhile ILM creams itself over these horrible OLD people like Elbow and Girls Aloud and it's like MOVE ON but nobody wants to. Over at LJ it's all slavering cockroaches grabbing at the new fucking Oasis single like it's an, um, oasis.

Someone has to argue for the other side.

― A. FIND MISSING LINK B. PUT IT TOGETHER C. BANG! (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 9 October 2008 15:55 (sixteen years ago)

and the places where I could talk about grime and hip hop and reggaeton and etc. are all up their arse Dissensus-style Smug McSmug from Smugtown.

I start a thread on the fucking BRILLIANT new T.I. album and all you can do is whinge about duh not as good as Kinig.

It's an uphill struggle.

― A. FIND MISSING LINK B. PUT IT TOGETHER C. BANG! (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 9 October 2008 15:56 (sixteen years ago)

best thread ever

― 100 tons of hardrofl beyond zings (Just got offed), Thursday, 9 October 2008 15:56 (sixteen years ago)

KING I meant

― A. FIND MISSING LINK B. PUT IT TOGETHER C. BANG! (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 9 October 2008 15:56 (sixteen years ago)

of course you'll have to PAY if you want any kind of explanation as to why 'Swagger Like Us' is NOT a load of tedious crap. but empty hyperbole free of charge as ever.

― Annoying Display Name (blueski), Thursday, 9 October 2008 15:59 (sixteen years ago)

Bye Steve.

― A. FIND MISSING LINK B. PUT IT TOGETHER C. BANG! (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 9 October 2008 15:59 (sixteen years ago)

The new T.I. album is maybe his fourth best, being generous.

― jim, Thursday, 9 October 2008 16:03 (sixteen years ago)

B-b-but the T.I. album *isn't* as good as King!

― Matt DC, Thursday, 9 October 2008 16:22 (sixteen years ago)

It's probably better than The Seldom Seen Kid though.

― Matt DC, Thursday, 9 October 2008 16:24 (sixteen years ago)

that one about love and pride was OK

― Annoying Display Name (blueski), Thursday, 9 October 2008 16:24 (sixteen years ago)

http://cache.gettyimages.com/xc/3281060.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=4F84C7EF07395AB6320E3D261AAF5DCEA55A1E4F32AD3138

― Ich Ber ein Binliner (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 October 2008 16:26 (sixteen years ago)

xposts. 5th best album being generous even.

― jim, Thursday, 9 October 2008 16:28 (sixteen years ago)

No Marcello posts on the 450-post funky house thread incidentally but I suppose that at your current rate you're not due to get excited about that until 2011.

― Matt DC, Thursday, 9 October 2008 16:32 (sixteen years ago)

It's a shame we don't have an equivalent poster on the ILE football threads who can turn up and shout at everyone for not hailing Francis Jeffers as the future of English football.

― Matt DC, Thursday, 9 October 2008 16:36 (sixteen years ago)

how did nick find out about carlin's dope habit anyway?

― Annoying Display Name (blueski), Thursday, 9 October 2008 16:37 (sixteen years ago)

He always tried so hard not to draw attention to it too

http://blog.ugo.com/images/uploads/george_carlin.jpg

― Ich Ber ein Binliner (Tom D.), Thursday, 9 October 2008 16:39 (sixteen years ago)

this thread! jeez, folks, it's only elbow...

― CharlieNo4, Thursday, 9 October 2008 16:40 (sixteen years ago)

I really should have better things to do than point and laugh at Marcello for the ludicrous figure he cuts suddenly painting himself as the only person on ILM who ever talks about grime or hip-hop.

― Matt DC, Thursday, 9 October 2008 16:42 (sixteen years ago)

^^ no no your last one made me lol

― my sweet coconut (rogermexico.), Thursday, 9 October 2008 17:16 (sixteen years ago)

Now get back to Virgin Radio. There's a chance they might play "All You Good, Good People" within the next 72 hours.

Virgin Radio is called Absolute Radio now.

― Mooncalf (Raw Patrick), Thursday, 9 October 2008 18:06 (sixteen years ago)

sick mouthy's definition of trolling upthread was spot on

― velko, Friday, 10 October 2008 05:13 (sixteen years ago)

In Truro last night, after the gig, we walked past some "teenagers", and one of them was singing "He's just a rascal", which I believe is the refrain of a song by the popular beat musician Dizzee Rascal. Maybe Marcello should move to Cornwall in order to be at the heart of the scene?

― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Friday, 10 October 2008 06:47 (sixteen years ago)

he's ahead of you, dude.

― Mark G, Friday, 10 October 2008 08:24 (sixteen years ago)

gosh darn those teenyboppers and their beat-besotted, rascally ways. why in my day...

― "I'ma lose my religion and go secular on you, boy" (Ioannis), Friday, 10 October 2008 09:02 (sixteen years ago)

five years pass...

this thread builds to a hell of a finish, jeffers zing is all-time

― a horse divided cannot stand (darraghmac), Monday, 3 February 2014 14:50 (eleven years ago)

Oh my.

― the drummer is a monster (Scik Mouthy), Monday, 3 February 2014 16:04 (eleven years ago)

I thought this would be bumped for their new single, it's great. Love the video.

― an enormous bolus of flatulence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 3 February 2014 16:52 (eleven years ago)

Affectionate references to Yoko always welcome.

― Simon H., Monday, 3 February 2014 17:07 (eleven years ago)

three weeks pass...

new album is allegedly sad? can't imagine this band getting any sadder than "friend of ours'. singles are good.

― akm, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 22:30 (eleven years ago)

don't' know WTF MC was on about up there

― akm, Tuesday, 25 February 2014 22:30 (eleven years ago)

four months pass...

playing the back garden ATM

great band obv

― leave the web boys alone (darraghmac), Wednesday, 25 June 2014 19:53 (ten years ago)

A mate of mine went to see them in Cork last night, he said they were excellent. They dont do much for me tho, soz

― everyday sheeple (Michael B), Wednesday, 25 June 2014 20:25 (ten years ago)

they are a bit cheesy live.

― akm, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 20:25 (ten years ago)

I know I saw them live years ago, but for the life of me I can't remember if it was them opening for Lamb or Lamb opening for Elbow. Or maybe I am confusing two different bills? It seems more likely that at the time that it was Elbow opening for someone else, but Lamb seems an unlikely headliner.

― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 20:31 (ten years ago)

Hmm, Elbow opening for Doves in 2002? Maybe that was it.

― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 20:33 (ten years ago)

that's likely.

I really love the band but I really hate audience participation in shows and there was a lot of waving hands in the air.

― akm, Wednesday, 25 June 2014 20:45 (ten years ago)

cant see that from the garden so im happy out tbf

― leave the web boys alone (darraghmac), Wednesday, 25 June 2014 20:54 (ten years ago)

one year passes...

So, how was the solo album?

― djh, Monday, 22 February 2016 20:59 (nine years ago)

three years pass...

i know they aren't too popular around here but i'm seeing these guys tonight. i only saw them one other time and that was in San Francisco in the year 2000. so second show is 20 years later. i doubt they will be so intense again where the hair on the back of my neck will stand up, but nonetheless looking forward to seeing them again.

― Bee OK, Wednesday, 22 January 2020 03:34 (five years ago)

They're great. The Jools performance of "My Sad Captains" was fantastic.

Easily top 5 tour pairings was seeing Elbow with Doves way back - maybe that same 2000 tour?

― the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 04:55 (five years ago)

such an amazing show, really blew me away. he's really engaged with the audience and talked up a storm. saying things like beautiful and just so positive and happy. there was a connection with the audience i don't really see from bands these days. they only toured California and said it has been seven years since they were here last? i didn't know anything after the Seldom Seen Kid record but didn't matter as they picked great songs and the audience ate it up. i wont miss them next time they come through.

― Bee OK, Thursday, 23 January 2020 03:31 (five years ago)

the show i saw in San Francisco way back when was not with the Doves. that should have been a blast especially since i never did see the Doves live.

― Bee OK, Thursday, 23 January 2020 03:32 (five years ago)

Took me a while to find the date - June 3, 2002 at Graceland. Memorable for such big sound in a small venue. This site has a scan of the ticket and some earlier Seattle shows I missed.

― the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Thursday, 23 January 2020 15:08 (five years ago)

i missed them last week which is too bad, but I've seen the last two bay area shows they played. both excellent. I think the latest album is slightly better than Little Fictions, both not quite as good as Take Off and Landing.

― akm, Friday, 24 January 2020 15:29 (five years ago)

five years pass...

So I have, from somewhere, a 'deluxe version' of Asleep in the Back ... I thought I added it on apple music but I probably slsk'ed it. The tracklist doesn't match the tracklist of the deluxe CDs from what I can tell, it's three volumes and includes a few songs I don't know anything about: Stumble and Puckfair? anyone know where these come from? they are lovely, Stumble in particular.

― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 22 May 2025 14:52 (two days ago)

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