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― astroblaster (astroblaster), Thursday, 21 August 2003 01:33 (twenty-two years ago)

I really really really enjoyed "my definition of a boombastic jazz style" at the time

― nnnh oh oh nnnh nnnh oh (James Blount), Thursday, 21 August 2003 01:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Kardinal Offishal is from Toronto, yes?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 21 August 2003 01:43 (twenty-two years ago)

im pretty sure he is, yes

― astroblaster (astroblaster), Thursday, 21 August 2003 01:47 (twenty-two years ago)

yes he is. you should check The Rascalz summit cut 'Northern Touch', which has a wide range of good Canadian rappers, including Choclair. Kardinal (who isn't on that song, right?) pretty much leads the pack, though.

― Dave M. (rotten03), Thursday, 21 August 2003 01:50 (twenty-two years ago)

i've been listening to northern touch all day. kardinal is on it.
i agree that its the peak of canadian mainstream hip hop so far.

― astroblaster (astroblaster), Thursday, 21 August 2003 01:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Search: Da Grassroots "Passage through (of?) Time" and Swollen Members "Balance"

― oops (Oops), Thursday, 21 August 2003 01:53 (twenty-two years ago)

s: baby blue soundcrew - love em all

― astroblaster (astroblaster), Thursday, 21 August 2003 01:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Yup--Mr. Kardinal, straight from the T-dot O-dot. Gawd that's awful.

Search:
K-OS. K-OS. K-OS.
Audio Research (Rekkid label)
Grandtheft (Producer fellow)
P-Luv
Sixtoo
Buck 65
Dream Warriors

Have no problem with:
Dubmatique
LocoLocass
Les Architektes
Maestro (a titch pathetic, but you've gotta give him props...)

Destroy:
Baby Blue Sound Crew (keep Jully Black--she's okay)
Farley Flex
Choclair
Jelleestone
Sakrates
Swollen Members

― cybele (cybele), Thursday, 21 August 2003 01:56 (twenty-two years ago)

i saw choclair open for snopp dogg last night. my opinion on him is totally changed now. HE IS ACTUALLY GOOD. i was as shocked as you are.

― astroblaster (astroblaster), Thursday, 21 August 2003 02:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I stand by my "Balance" recommendation--if you focus on emcees more than the beats you might think it's wack though-- but DESTROY the new Swollen Members. "Bad Dreams" I think it's (aptly) called.

― oops (Oops), Thursday, 21 August 2003 02:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Maestro (a titch pathetic, but you've gotta give him props...)

for what, taking an American style and adding nothing to it save CanCon???

― Dave M. (rotten03), Thursday, 21 August 2003 02:10 (twenty-two years ago)

i agree that SM have GREAT production.

― astroblaster (astroblaster), Thursday, 21 August 2003 02:10 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm not a very big fan of maestro, but ill give him props for being the first to make it.

― astroblaster (astroblaster), Thursday, 21 August 2003 02:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Enough with the Maestro hate! Back in '89 he was running things. Admittedly, his subsequent output has left a little to be desired.

The Rascalz's "Really Livin'" is my favourite Canadian hip-hop track of all time.

― J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Thursday, 21 August 2003 02:16 (twenty-two years ago)

search Socalled!

― s1utsky (slutsky), Thursday, 21 August 2003 02:24 (twenty-two years ago)

I was scanning K-Os' Exit at HMV a day or two ago. It sounded lovely. The only thing is that it doesn't contain the single "Superstarr pt 0", which is a real gem. AMG (BTW good on you for reviewing, Sean) tells me I need to get a special version of this with bonus tracks, which I suppose I'll look for, hoping it's not more expensive or hard to find.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Thursday, 21 August 2003 04:03 (twenty-two years ago)

once again I rep for Swollen Members ft Nelly Furtardo - "Breath"
("got the bubbly, pour it on me"!!)

― etc, Thursday, 21 August 2003 05:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Search:
BUCK 65! (aka Stinkin Rich)
Hip Club Groove
Maestro Fresh Wes!!!
Rascalz (Sharpshooter w/ Bret The Hitman Hart was a cult hit in my small town, mostly due to Bret)

Hip Club Groove

the forgotten east coast rappers only slightly more serious then:
Organized Rhyme (remeber 'Check The OR'? featuring a slightly younger Tom Green and his two balls, I mean friends)

Destroy:
Choclair, who can rap but whose attempt at creating a player image rubs me the wrong way.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 21 August 2003 12:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh well, wrote Hip Club Groove twice, either way its on Murder records and probably long out of print.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 21 August 2003 12:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Blu Rum 13 anyone? 'It Is' was a fine lost single from last year.

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 21 August 2003 12:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Search: that episode of "Hits from the Street" on BET where he's in Toronto. "So this is what a ghetto is like in CANADA! I'm SCARED!"

― Tom Breihan (Tom Breihan), Thursday, 21 August 2003 12:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Search these:
Josh Martinez
Pip Skid
Kunga 219
Thesis Sahib.

― Nathan W (Nathan Webb), Thursday, 21 August 2003 12:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Wow, this board is going to have me seeking out quite a few acts. Just wanted to add that people should seek out noah23's album quicksand. it's really great. crazy good beats, and a very talented mc.
He's on the label plague language with baracuda72, but I haven't heard him yet to comment.

― Jonathan (Jonathan), Thursday, 21 August 2003 13:24 (twenty-two years ago)

If you're gonna search Pippy Skid, make sure you check out the rest of the Break Bread crew, especially mcenroe's newest album, Disenfranchaised. I've actually known Pip and mcenroe and DJ Hunnicutt for quite some time now (mostly casually), as they were from the same hometown as I was; it was very interesting and gratifying to watch them grow from a bunch of punks with more enthusiasm than talent into a group of performers with multiple (and GOOD) albums under their belts.

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Thursday, 21 August 2003 13:49 (twenty-two years ago)

You can find out more at Peanuts and Corn.

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Thursday, 21 August 2003 13:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, I was just listening to the Breakin' Bread sampler last night. "Good Corporate Citizen"

I third or fourth both K-OS and Buck 65.
Rascalz okay. Swollen Members have just released all their albums without vocals, so that might be a better way to go, but they're still a good live show.
You gotta hear Pocket Dwellers. Nigel Williams says some crazy shit. They've got a new live album out.
What up Jully Black! How come you never showed and made me look the fool? I ain't mad atcha.

Just saw a fantastic local group called D0gz Life, a couple of aboriginal kids from the Regina Ghetto. Their skills were so tight. Sort of a dirty south kinda sound with a bit of Ja Rule here and there, so not something I'd normally be into, but when it's just kids coming up from yr hometown, you gotta respect their skills, cuz they got 'em.

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 21 August 2003 14:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Right now they are playing Dj Shadow in Dundas Square, really REALLY loud for some reason. OK so its not quite what this thread is about but it was really odd to all of a sudden be blasted with Endtroducing.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 21 August 2003 14:21 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm really surprised there hasn't been a lot more aboriginal hiphop; then again, perhaps there HAS been but we just don't get to hear about it all that much because it doesn't get much coverage?

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Thursday, 21 August 2003 14:28 (twenty-two years ago)

There's WarParty, from Hobbema Alberta.
A friend of mine just finished a project (and has applied for continued funding) of doing hip hop workshops in Regina's inner city youth centres.
He recorded an EP with some of the best kids, and some of it's really good.
I think there's a lot more going on, but often (too often) Aboriginal artists stick to playing powwows and reserves and don't even bother trying to reach the mainstream. But, in SK (as I'm sure I've pointed out elsewhere), we're going through an Aboriginal population spurt, and I've had contact through my job with a bunch of different youth cultural programs. Most of them are more drama or film related, but most of the participants tell me that they also rap. So I think there's something that could, maybe not boil over, but definitely make itself known in the next five years. I'm looking forward to it.

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 21 August 2003 14:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Dig Your Roots to thread.

Maybe someday I'll reformat the track listing for here.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 21 August 2003 14:35 (twenty-two years ago)

were you involved with DYR, Noodles?

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 21 August 2003 15:54 (twenty-two years ago)

No, but cutting and pasting the tracklisting from their website to ours doesn't produce satisfactory results. We should get a couple of Andrews from the NCRA world over here on ILM only.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 21 August 2003 16:51 (twenty-two years ago)

I was half way through editting that sentence, I was changing that to people.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 21 August 2003 16:52 (twenty-two years ago)

okay, I just didn't want to hurt yr feelings. I didn't think the DYR was all that strong. I haven't listened to it since it came out, and maybe I should give it another spin. But I also found it a little bit of a pain in the ass that the NCRA would put out a comp with so much profanity on it, since that renders it useless to community stations (though not college stations). Seriously, how hard would it have been to include edited versions of tracks?

I've become so puritanical, but really I love swearing, it just pisses me off that I can't play some really great songs and 85% of rap because of language issues.

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 21 August 2003 16:55 (twenty-two years ago)

The people, or at least the ones I knew who did DYR were all from the campus side of campus/community. If you learn the song you could also fade it out yourself. I used to do that during my morning show. Played Young Canadian's Hawaii at 9:30 in the morning that way. Ahh, the stupidity of it all.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 21 August 2003 17:00 (twenty-two years ago)

snow

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 21 August 2003 17:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Wasn't he supposed to be reggae?

Scarborough, so much to answer for.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 21 August 2003 17:06 (twenty-two years ago)

he beat up my friend once

― s1utsky (slutsky), Thursday, 21 August 2003 17:07 (twenty-two years ago)

he's currently touring Western Canada OPENING for Tone Loc. Which I don't understand, because Snow has had hits THIS CENTURY.

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 21 August 2003 17:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Wait, what hits?

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Thursday, 21 August 2003 17:11 (twenty-two years ago)

What are you talking about?

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Thursday, 21 August 2003 17:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Please tell me this is a sick joke!

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Thursday, 21 August 2003 17:11 (twenty-two years ago)

C'mon, please?

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Thursday, 21 August 2003 17:11 (twenty-two years ago)

There was that very recent one with the guy from Trailer Park Boys in the video, and then there was his Mind on the Moon album a couple of years ago.

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 21 August 2003 17:12 (twenty-two years ago)

s1utsky, you can take comfort that Snow had taken more boots up his ass then anyone else at his school.

Snow should be on Trailer Park Boys, he'd fit right in with Rick and Julian in their assorted hanger ons. Killed by a run away shopping cart.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 21 August 2003 17:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Snow
Informer

What's up man hey yo what's up
Yeah what's goin' on here
Sick an' tired of five-oh runnin' up on the block here
You know what I'm sayin'
Yo Snow they came around here lookin' for you the other day
Word word bust it

Informer you no say daddy me Snow me I'll go blame
A licky boom boom down
Detective mon said daddy me Snow me stab someone down the lane
A licky Boom Boom Down.

Police them come an' now they blow down me door
One him come crawl through through my window
So then they put me in the back the car at the station
From that point on me reach my destination
When the destination reached it was the east detention
Where them whipped down me pants looked up me bottom so

Bigger they are they think they have more power
They're on the phone me say that on (every) hour
Me for want to use it once an' now me call me lover
Lover who I'll be callin is the one Tammy
An' me love her in me heart down to my belly
Yes me daddy me Snow me I feel cool an' deadly
As the one MC Shan an' the one daddy Snow
Together we-a love 'em as a Tor-Na-Do

Listen for me you better listen for me now (x2)
When me rockin' the microphone me rock it steady
Yes sir daddy me Snow me are the article don
But in the in an' the out of a dance them they say where you come from
People them say you come from Jamaica
But me born an' raised in the ghetto that's the one I want you to know
Pure black people mon that's all I mon know
Yeah me shoes are tear up an' me toes used to show
Where me born in on the one Toronto so

Come with a nice young lady.
Intelligent yes she's gentle an' irie
Everywhere me go me never left her at all
Yes its daddy Snow me are the roam dance mon
Roam between a dancin' in a in a nation-a
You never know say daddy me Snow me are the Boom Shakata
Me never lay-a down flat in that one cardboard box
Yes say me Daddy me Snow me I'll go reachin' at the top so

Why would he (x2)

Me sittin' 'round cool with my dibbie dibbie girl
Police knock my door lick up my pal
Rough me up an' I can't do a thing
Pick up my line when my telephone ring
Take me to the station black up my hands
Trail me down 'cuz I'm hangin' with the Snowman
What I'm gonna do I'm backed an' I'm trapped
Slap me in the face an' took all o' my gap
They have no clues an' they wanna get warmer
But Shan won't turn informer

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 21 August 2003 17:58 (twenty-two years ago)

a. dancehall
b. hip hop
c. pop
d. all of the above

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 21 August 2003 17:59 (twenty-two years ago)

e. carp
f. crap

If you picked e) chances are your a Rheostatics fan.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 21 August 2003 18:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Kid Koala--don't really like "Carpal Tunnel Syndrome" much, but he's a-fucking-mazing live.

― oops (Oops), Thursday, 21 August 2003 19:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Hey--don't be knowcking Snow. The man gets harsh forwards in Jamaica. He's done tracks with Bounty Killer, beenie Man, you name it...He's got skills. Granted, I'm not impressed with his ill advised recent adult contemporary turn, but he's still keeping his fans alive backa yard...

― cybele (cybele), Thursday, 21 August 2003 19:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I meant "knocking"....Where'd the "w" come from?

― cybele (cybele), Thursday, 21 August 2003 20:01 (twenty-two years ago)

the "w" I believe comes from the Germanic influence on the language.

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, 21 August 2003 20:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Destory: Kish - Around the World in 80 Days

― T. Weiss (Timmy), Thursday, 21 August 2003 20:31 (twenty-two years ago)

search: "wonderful world" by saukrates, e-rule and self scientific

oh man... this track is Search with a capital SEARCH..
translation: SEARCH

― astroblaster (astroblaster), Thursday, 21 August 2003 22:23 (twenty-two years ago)

p.s. im not sure if wonderful world is the name of the track. actually, i don't know anything about the track at all.

― astroblaster (astroblaster), Thursday, 21 August 2003 22:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Kish - Seriously, we should destroy such an embarassing cultural artefact?

I'm going on a voyage, to rock the globe
As I rome, I return, after a long journey home
From nation to destination, it ain't a vacation
So let me bust a conversation
Top spinners, I went globe-trotting
So I grab the pen and the rhymes I started jottin'
Tales return of a trip that were made to amaze
I rhymed the world in 80 days

That's special stuff. The tall chick from Degrassi was in the video even.

― Kim (Kim), Thursday, 21 August 2003 22:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I didn't think of Kid Koala as a hip hop thing but its wonderful. "Music For Morning People" will always have a special place in my heart. As will all the wonderful cartoons in the cd book and in Nufonia Must Fall

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 22 August 2003 01:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Canadian Rapper Sets Record

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 22 August 2003 16:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I just heard 4 tracks from the new Buck 65 album. I like it, but I'm strangely not as excited as I was when I merely knew there was a new Buck 65 album coming.

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 22 August 2003 17:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Another Canadian has entered the Guinness Book
Of World Records. On July 5 at the Darknights
Nationals Car Show and Urban Lifestyle event in
Markham, ON, Toronto rapper D.O. performed the
longest freestyle rap in history. By the time the day
was through, D.O. had freestyled for a total of eight
hours and 45 minutes. People left for the evening
and the fairgrounds closed, but D.O. was still there,
rapping until the record was broken.

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 22 August 2003 17:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, I know, I can't count the number of things wrong with that on my hands, toes and other parts of my body. Just too many things wrong about that.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 22 August 2003 17:29 (twenty-two years ago)

and that doesn't even get into the Tony Robbins stuff.

― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Friday, 22 August 2003 17:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Unfortunately the main thing i can remember about Choclair is this one line where he says girl your looking good like food

which is not on par with I love you like a fat kid love cake

But anyways.

Search:
Dream Warriors - My Definition
Rascalz w/K-Os, Barrington Levy - Top of the World
Swollen Members - Lady Venom
buck 65

― Andrzej B. (Andrzej B.), Sunday, 24 August 2003 04:32 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...

i know this is kinda old and outdated but combing through for Kish tracks recently, i've gotta veto the fatwa on Kish and say Search: Kish's I Rhyme the World in 80 Days. this record is fucking hilarious

― ken taylrr (ken taylrr), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 21:20 (twenty-one years ago)

and the best part of the title track is that when Kish goes around the globe to challenge MCs and make love to the world's women he takes on the toughest of hip hop competitors: france, russia, and japan

― ken taylrr (ken taylrr), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 21:26 (twenty-one years ago)

BTW, new K-Os is out, and it seems a bit more varied than the last one. I like it so far but "B-Boy Stance" sort of perplexes me.

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 22:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I was watching the new K-OS video ("Crabbukkit"???), and while the song is very good, I can't help but the think the man needs some new threads if he wants to crack the U.S. market. Americans are going to take one look at his dreads/shades/vintage military coat/acoustic guitar getup and think "Wyclef? We've got one, thanks. And quite frankly, one is enough".

And they'll be right.

― Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 23:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Do you mean you dislike the song Sean? I like it. It seems a little harder-edged than the other stuff I've heard by him and a nice change of pace. I like all the new songs I've heard.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 03:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't dislike it per se, I just don't really know what to make of it, because it sticks out like crazy on the new album. I don't mind the harder edge of the song either--I quite like the sound--but at the same time the song doesn't really seem to go anywhere either...just a lot of repetition of that one line it seems. I'm conflicted.

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 11:42 (twenty-one years ago)

What's weird about the whole K-os/Wyclef dynamic is that K-os is quite obviously and no doubt purposefully tripping on Wyclef's corny antics , the difference being that k-dash generally pulls it off. Even the Sam Roberts song, (Sam Roberts being the Cdn analogue of Gene Simmons or the Rock or even a Bob Dylan cameo in the video right now, in this context) is pretty okay. "Neutroniks" is pretty cool.
When K-os stops trying to take down corporate hip hop and just makes records he'll either leap ahead by lightyears or dry up. Either way, it'll be interesting.
But like, Jurassic 5, they're first album was pretty cool, but then on their second album (and I'm only talking LPs here, not EPs and singles and shit) and they're still all talking about what they're not and how they're better than the "commercial" acts, but they don't really ever move beyond that. It's like terrorism. It's like, we don't have to be actually good. We just have to not rap about jewelry and guns, unless we're rapping about how we don't rap about them.
It's like, once you have a successful record, shut up about being underground or "real." "Real" is for Sonny Bono, real is for Yoko Ono.

― Huk-L, Wednesday, 13 October 2004 13:52 (twenty-one years ago)

where are the black jays from?

― You've Got to Pick Up Every Stitch (tracerhand), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 14:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Some people seem to be all up on K-os. I've only heard that Crabbucket song (sent to me by a Canadian), I thought it was pretty corny. Made me resolve not to have sax solos on any hip-hop tracks I do (and believe me, I like sax solos). I'd like to hear him over some other beats though.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 13 October 2004 14:08 (twenty-one years ago)

sixteen years pass...

Canadian hip-hop thread on pause for 16 years as people try to keep up. A friend messaged me on FB today, a conversation with his seven-year-old son.

"Daddy, today in reading we read a book about a famous rapper, and then he came on to the Zoom to speak to us."
"Oh yeah, what was his name?"
"I didn't catch his name."

First I suggested it must have been Biz Markie (joking), then when my friend said it must have been someone who goes around visiting schools, I said Maestro Fresh-Wes (still joking). It was! (MFW, that is.)

― clemenza, Thursday, 11 February 2021 21:14 (five years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZV7aOnX7XeE

― xzanfar, Friday, 12 February 2021 02:48 (five years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSffz_bl6zo

― xzanfar, Friday, 12 February 2021 02:49 (five years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Y1da7FqyTw

― xzanfar, Friday, 12 February 2021 02:50 (five years ago)

wow on Fresh Wes! that's awesome

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 12 February 2021 03:07 (five years ago)

little did we know that someday a Canadian rapper would be the biggest rapper of all time

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 12 February 2021 03:08 (five years ago)

A book on the top 100 Canadian albums, published in 2004, contained one hip-hop record - Joyful Rebellion by k-os at 68. I I wonder how many there'd be now (certainly you wouldn't get two albums by Crowbar on the list).

― Halfway there but for you, Friday, 12 February 2021 03:52 (five years ago)

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