Does your love of music ever get mistook for hating music?

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I love music, but sometimes my wife's friends will stick some horseshit in the stereo and I'll comment on it and my wife will say "Oh, he just hates everything". But I don't. It's just that I love music so much that I'm not going to put up with any bullshit. Any of you have any similar experiences?

― Helltime Producto (Pavlik), Monday, 1 September 2003 03:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Ooooh yes.

― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Monday, 1 September 2003 03:15 (twenty-two years ago)

yes, definitely. as i'm slagging off another local band i percieve as crap (or competition) - gf: "you hate everything"

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 1 September 2003 03:21 (twenty-two years ago)

All the time. People confuse loving music with having no standards.

― Xii (Xii), Monday, 1 September 2003 03:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Some of the stuff I thought was bullshit actually turned out to be brilliant. Thanks ILM!

― Sean (Sean), Monday, 1 September 2003 03:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Quite a lot, about many many things other than music.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:05 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah like humanity for instance.

― dengo matherton (dubplatestyle), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:06 (twenty-two years ago)

(not for milo, but for me.)

― dengo matherton (dubplatestyle), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:07 (twenty-two years ago)

(maybe for milo too, i dunno.)

― dengo matherton (dubplatestyle), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:07 (twenty-two years ago)

ilm, where being a corny indie fuck occasionally allows you the self deception of 'loving music'

― trife (simon_tr), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:11 (twenty-two years ago)

trife do you not believe in aesthetic differentiation (i looked it up)?

― dengo matherton (dubplatestyle), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:13 (twenty-two years ago)

only by red hot chili peppers fans

― robin (robin), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:14 (twenty-two years ago)

This is where I go on tangents.

Hey Dengo, I s see your email addy, makes me ask, you read that one book that's a bio on Lee Scratch perry? If not, it's pretty good.

Also, on the "he just hates everything" thing, is it kosher to claim diplomatic imunity if you can hald your own on guitar and bass and can from that kinda sorta almost hold your own on keys and can also program a sampler and a sequencer? Cause I can do all that and I feel it's worth something, taste-in-music wise.

― Helltime Producto (Pavlik), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:15 (twenty-two years ago)

i dunno when i see stuff like the mtv vmas thread, a bunch of ppl who otensibly 'love music' pathetically tearing endlessly into the fifty most popular artists in music today!! why are they allowed to say they 'love' music more than the 'average person'? this is not a case of loving something so much you are really offended when theres something bad about it, we all know love isnt like that, when youre in love you lose all 'aesthetic differentiation', if only momentarily sometimes!!!

― trife (simon_tr), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:20 (twenty-two years ago)

maybe they used to love it, but now, like a loveless marriage, they're killing it?

― gaz (gaz), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:24 (twenty-two years ago)

so you love everyone equally?

― dengo matherton (dubplatestyle), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:24 (twenty-two years ago)

plur?

― dengo matherton (dubplatestyle), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:24 (twenty-two years ago)

so what having more specific music nerd taste in music mean? oooh, at some point in your life you chose to spend more time and money on music than the average person!! you 'love music'!! the more i listen to music, the more i think about it, the less i care about any of it being 'bad', or even notice if any of it is 'bad' at all. i guess im not saying this is superior 'music-loving' to the wack spiteful alex in nyc bullshit but christ, when you truly love your wife does that make you loudly chastise her for fat thighs or unkempt hair? no, you love her thighs, you stroke her hair, you realize that when you chased 'attractive' girls your appreciation, no, your LOVE of women was juvenile and selfish, in the same way we all move out of that 13-year old fixation with ONE BAND or ONE SOUND to a huge joyous world, of music, of love

― trife (simon_tr), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:25 (twenty-two years ago)

but only one wife?

― dengo matherton (dubplatestyle), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:26 (twenty-two years ago)

ok,but surely the populist in you will admit that "i really like a lot of music and don't like a lot of other music but nonetheless am interested in discussing the music that i like and perhaps the music that i don't with people in a similar position" is a far less catchy title for a mesage board?

― robin (robin), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:27 (twenty-two years ago)

the wife is music!! obv theres no societal or physical constraints on loving music, theres as much of it as you want and its always there for you but much like strongo's steroid-addled wang, the metaphor doesnt extend that far

― trife (simon_tr), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:28 (twenty-two years ago)

who is strongo?

― dengo matherton (dubplatestyle), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:29 (twenty-two years ago)

I only have one wife. But I have 4 distortion pedals.

― Helltime Producto (Pavlik), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:29 (twenty-two years ago)

x-post,obv...
(and again)

― robin (robin), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:29 (twenty-two years ago)

helltime in your opinion how much of music is worth loving, for you, and how much is the 'bullshit' stated in the qn above? how much of what your wife does is loveable and how much 'bullshit'? does your overwhelming love for your wife make you tolerate the bullshit less, as you say your love of music does? is the only reason to hate music because it cant defend yourself?

― trife (simon_tr), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:31 (twenty-two years ago)

and helltime plz be assured im not trying to question your love of music and especially not your love for your wife here, just assume im talking hypothetically the same way i would talk abt my own 'wife' or 'will to live', these things only exist as rhetoric

― trife (simon_tr), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:35 (twenty-two years ago)

where do bad relationships fit into the metaphor?

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:37 (twenty-two years ago)

For some, nay many, people, music is background. For some people like, well, many peopel reading this, it is a passion of which we have strong opinions about. Does that get mistaken for hatred. So what am I saying here? Absolutely nothing.

― mentalist (mentalist), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, In order to do this accurately, I have to separate music from wife. I'll do Wife first.

Wife, who I adore unconditionally, does shit like yell at me from upstairs in the bath "bring me a towel" or "rub that (some stuff that smells like oranges but feels like grindy sugar crystals) on my back". That is bullshit, if not horseshit. Cause I wanna sit my ass on the couch and play guitar along with the Jeopardy theme.

But then musically, (when not making random noise that will eventually be songs) hanging out in the spare bedroom that has all the musical equipment.

OK. I tried to do a response, but then drunkeness hit me and fuckecked everything up and I can't rememeber anything now, so, sorry that the question wasn't awnsered, but I have no capacity right now, being hammered and all. Sorry.

― Helltime Producto (Pavlik), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:43 (twenty-two years ago)

That was disappointing.

― d k (d k), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:46 (twenty-two years ago)

the 'music as wife' metaphor only holds up (at all) if your wife is Cybil.

― oops (Oops), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:47 (twenty-two years ago)

I apologize again, I can't remember anything, and am probably going to sleep soon.

― Helltime Producto (Pavlik), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:47 (twenty-two years ago)

do you remember where your bed is?

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:48 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, the wife thing was maybe a redherring. i was just trying to say sometimes you have a relationship with something and that relationship kinda turns sour and you forget what it was you loved.

― gaz (gaz), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:51 (twenty-two years ago)

All I know is that I love my wife (taste in music and movies aside), I love Black Flag, FEAR, Zepplin, Buddy Rich (Cause he's a fuckin Maniac), Ween, Lee Perry, and me going to sleep right now and all of you. If you're driving, don't drink, and if you're drinking, don't drive. God bles and good night.

― Helltime Producto (Pavlik), Monday, 1 September 2003 04:59 (twenty-two years ago)

This board isn't called ILM because it's about loving music. I called it ILM because we had a link called "I Hate Music" already and I was going for a kind of boxers'-knuckles effect.

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 1 September 2003 07:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Is your love of posting ever mistaken for correct grammar?
Just teasing... but that paragraph about playing along to Jeopardy was pretty funny.

― Erick Bieritz (Imbroglio), Monday, 1 September 2003 07:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Music doesn't love me, so it can go fuck itself for all I care

― dave q, Monday, 1 September 2003 07:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Used to happen lots, but much less so these days cos I seem to be positive about most things. When I do hate summat though, I really hate it.

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 1 September 2003 08:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Partners often have very strange attitudes towards your musicial fanaticism. HSA often remarks to people that "Hey, it's a relief to finally date someone who is a bigger music snob than I am!"

― kate (kate), Monday, 1 September 2003 11:21 (twenty-two years ago)

I hate music.
But there are exceptions.

At least that's what time has made me believe, as I constantly hear those "you hate everything" comments, but also "why on earth do you need this many CDs?"

― Øystein Holm-Olsen (Øystein H-O), Monday, 1 September 2003 12:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Musical genres are like women, and I am a gigantic slut. I never want to get married to a genre, I "shacked up" with Techno in the 90's and that is about as close to a LTR as I ever want to get with music.

I am looking for hot casual sex, not deep meaningful commitment.

Make what you want out of that statement.

― Mike Taylor (mjt), Monday, 1 September 2003 17:03 (twenty-two years ago)

when i was younger, yes, but it was probably my fault - talking more about the music i hated than the music i love, making broad dismissals about areas of music. i still loved listening to music at the time - and had great passion for the stuff i did enjoy - but i guess my attitude might have seemed sneery to some.

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 1 September 2003 20:02 (twenty-two years ago)

i only really talk about the areas of music i love these days, so i don't think people would call me a music hater. also, i probably listen to more areas of music than i used to.

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 1 September 2003 20:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Now I can't stop drawing connections between my love life and my music taste. Bah.

― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 1 September 2003 20:17 (twenty-two years ago)

When talking about music people tell me how loving and accepting I am. I have never been accused of hating music. I think you all need to put a lot of love in your hearts!!

― Sonny A. (Keiko), Monday, 1 September 2003 20:31 (twenty-two years ago)

haha, nobody thinks I hate everything anymore. Thank you Good Charlotte!

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 1 September 2003 20:56 (twenty-two years ago)

i guess im not saying this is superior 'music-loving' to the wack spiteful alex in nyc bullshit but christ....

I'll pretend I didn't read that, lest I say something spiteful and....god forbid...."wack".

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 1 September 2003 21:22 (twenty-two years ago)

quick alex, hold your nose

― mark p (Mark P), Monday, 1 September 2003 21:44 (twenty-two years ago)

those kids and their kooky slang.

― oops (Oops), Monday, 1 September 2003 22:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Upon reading Helltime's initial query above, I have to say he's spot-on. Life's too short and there are too many options to settle for bad music.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 1 September 2003 22:40 (twenty-two years ago)

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