AntonioCarlosJobim - where to start?

Blame it on the bossanova -- the dance uv luv.

i have this. its good. yes. i could do without fascinating rhythm.

"Wave" is an easy-listening album with a reason for being, quite deceptively easy in fact. Very swinging with nice undertones of real neurosis. "Stone Flower" is another good one. Jobim was a pretty lousy singer, right up there with Bacharach. But on "Elis & Tom" his voice works perfectly as counterpoint to Regina's.

If you can find it, the World Pacific reissue of the early João Gilberto bossa recordings is essential. Many of the classic Jobim songs are found here.

Another more recent Jobim thing is Morelenbaum/Sakamoto's album of Jobim songs--in fact, I think there's two of them now. Cool subdued versions of the classix, and I believe they used Jobim's own piano to record it.

The World Pacific comp--"The Legendary João Gilberto: The Complete Bossa Nova Recordings (1958-1961)"--came out in 1990. It seems to be--criminally I would say--OP at the moment. 38 tracks including "Chega De Saudade," "Desifinado," "O Pato," So Em Tues Braços," "Brigas, Nunca Mais," "Corcovado." "Black Orpheus" came out in '59; the World Pacific CD includes a medley, from that same year, of "O Nosso Amor/A Felicidade," the latter of which appears in the film (don't have the ST handy, so don't know if "O Nosso" appears in the film as well).

The WP comp is to my mind the absolute essential document of the bossa nova movement; and the place to start with Jobim. Verve did a nice comp called "Bossa Nova Brasil" that includes "Surf Board" by Jobim (performed by Roberto Menescal) along with a version of "Waters of March" by Regina different from the one found on "Elis & Tom," and to my ears inferior (lacks the beautiful instrumental passage in the middle of the "E&T" version, and isn't as well-sung). Bossa can be so cheesy and I'm not all that familiar with the lesser names of the movement. There are thousands of versions of the Jobim tunes done every way imaginable (Arto Lindsay's take on "That Look You Wear" on his "Subtle Body" is quite nice), but João and Regina are probably the best interpreters of Jobim (and Regina the greatest interpreter of my other favorite Brazilian songwriter of the '60s and '70s, Gilberto Gil).

If you can find it, the World Pacific reissue of the early João Gilberto bossa recordings is essential. Many of the classic Jobim songs are found here.
I second or third or fourth everything eddie hurt said here. For some reason Stone Flower has a mixed reputation but it's really good, not too many of the strings (I think the word is gloopy) that often plague Jobim-as-leader releases. And Ron Carter on bass!

That Joao Gilberto compilation that eddie mentions upthread - does anyone know anywhere where it might be available, or where those recordings have been released elsewhere in print? It's not even on the p2p's, that I can find - odd fate for such important records.

They still aren't in print. It's so absurd!

though if you don't have slsk, I guess this won't be of much use.

According to this guy, the material is actually out of print - something to do with a licensing problem. However, it IS on soulseek, thanks Brooker and Lingbertt!

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000046XI/202-5996931-4023045?%5Fencoding=UTF8

Revive, because "Jobim" really is a terrific record and I don't understand why it only got one mention.

http://www.hollowearth.org/images/brazil10/matita.jpg

And the cover! Beautiful!

i'll second the Sinatra/Jobim. listened to it twice last yesterday coincidentally and it is *wonderful*

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is that record with the cool cover not called Matita Pere? agreed its great

Well, my copy of it is just says "Jobim" on the side. I don't think there's any difference between it and "Matita Pere" except the covers.

Reading this thread (and the other) is killing me with all this hard-to-find Jobim.

However, the Loronix blog that Amateur(ist)) referenced in the 'rare album mp3s' thread seems to have an absolute ton of this type of stuff.

That 3-CD comp with in the funky vinyl spiral format as mentioned above is pretty ace. No idea where my copy was but it was my "office essential" circa 97-00.

I think the answer of which Jobim album to get depends on your location. Stone Flower or Tide for northern hemisphere, Elis & Tom or Wave for southern hemisphere.

There is no definitive Jobim album. Elis & Tom comes closest. The instrumental records are perilously close to MOR or background muzak. The 3-CD set has some great stuff but isn't unified. It's almost as if you would have to simply buy some songbooks and learn the tunes. It's kind of a shame, in a way, that such a major songwriter is so poorly represented on disc.

Yup

Mentioned it in the other thread but I've been loving this track lately:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCAA2fEHaa4

However the rest of the album is unfortunately kind of schmalzy and forgettable

Xps - that 3-CD comp looks to be on Spotify under the title The Warm World of Joao Gilberto: https://open.spotify.com/album/3ZHxnFBdmBRn1zjzf5aBtY?si=-RhsLho8SPmO9gQCkmJcwg

No idea what the copyright situation is. This was a re-release on a Spanish label called Ubatuqui.

wait didn’t I post on this thread this morning ? don’t see it

oh okay, it was the other, less pleasantly named thread

I like the CTI records a lot and S1 of Ururbu.