Louise Wener - classic or CLASSIC?

I also like the way the biographical information on her books goes to great lengths to tell you how successful Sleeper were. If Sleeper had actually been that successful the bio would just say "Louise Wener used to front Sleeper".

having said that, she did give good interview back in the early days of her band. and she seemed to be saying genuinely insightful things about Britpop in a retrospective article on it I saw recently somewhere.

I see her in Budgens all the time looking hassled. Probably waiting on 'fans' to rush up for her autograph. Instead she gets glares in the Budgens line-up as she looks for the star treatment from the bored Jamaican shop assistant.

Pushing in front of her in the que is classic.

Her second novel is perhaps the greatest literary crime since Paul Morley's 'Music and Words' - any ole crap gets the treatment in the UK nowadays. Note to self: Buy more cocaine in order to get more publicity.

She has a very irritating speaking voice.

I actually dislike her more than I dislike her music, but can't justify why. I have nothing at all against Sleeper per se, but there's just something very annoying about Louise Wener. Possibly the way she was touted as the voice of indie females everywhere when I didn't think she was.

it's been a funny old life.

Inbetweener is a good song. All the rest (that I heard) was crap.

I read the book to feel superior, obviously.

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/pic200_web/drp100/p168/p16824csjp8.jpg

Anyhow, I bought an old "Volume" compilation for 10p at Age Concern recently, and so reminded myself how good "Pyrotechnician" was.

Although my misheared lyric of "Kiss your fringes goodbye" was miles better.

according to allmusic guitar-sleeperbloke and drums-sleeperbloke both played on Mel C's Reason.

i seem to remember one of them moving to la and producing/managing rubbish-y alternapop-bands, but I could be mistaken.

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/mrgorsky.htm

Swap 6. Swallow for Inbetweener, delete 8 and add "She's a good girl" at the end, and I'd burn that one!

I think she said the most prescient thing about hearing Robbie's "Angels" and realising that it was back to earth time if the mainstream artists could do the 'britpop' angle.

She did make a complete arse of herself
1) when relating what 'inbetweener' was about, stating that her parents were so 'inbetweeners' that got stuck together. That must have been nice for them to hear.
2) I got a mailing about her third album, the LP version was a big blowup pic of herself at age five, pigtails, braces, and was meant to be "Hey, look how it all worked out for me!" along with a competition to win a silver disc of the album. (Well, when it's gone platinum, who cares about the silver ones) My guess is that it didn't make bronze.

I'd add the story above (the fan, the CDR, the cease/desist), but I don't think that was all her doing, and fair enough anyway.

add twisted and feeling peaky.

A dangerous combination indeed, that lyric always rang true.

what does "a band i was involved with" mean?

http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/music/2008/06/the_bands_the_press_love_to_ha.html

It means "has been referred to a debt collection agency."

Ben Wardle is a writer, artist manager and music consultant.

"county court judgements"

A group I was involved with, Sleeper, never enjoyed the easy Britpop ride that some other bands had in the mid-90s. And when they ended up outselling many of them, the press really got the knives out.

Sold more than whom? Shed Seven? Dodgy? Oasis?

I see her in Budgens all the time looking hassled. Probably waiting on 'fans' to rush up for her autograph. Instead she gets glares in the Budgens line-up as she looks for the star treatment from the bored Jamaican shop assistant.

Pushing in front of her in the que is classic.

Her second novel is perhaps the greatest literary crime since Paul Morley's 'Music and Words' - any ole crap gets the treatment in the UK nowadays. Note to self: Buy more cocaine in order to get more publicity.

-- False Name, Friday, 5 September 2003 13:54 (4 years ago) Bookmark Link

^^^wonder what happened to this guy

Sleeper are/were even worse than the Manic Street Preachers.

^^^wonder what happened to this guy

-- DJ Mencap, Thursday, 19 June 2008 15:01 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

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After all, consider whose music gets the most press acclaim from the 70s: T-Rex, Abba and Slade - the smug, formulaic, big-selling pop music of the day.

What does this even mean? Pick one? or All of them? Or, less than Led Zep?

Did LZ get so much hate? I don't remember that, but then I wouldn't as I was more aware of them from 1975 or so onwards, and everyone loved them then! (xcept me)

Did this guy seriously just call T-Rex, Abba and Slade smug and formulaic?

Guardian blog, innit?

Oh right, so they were all the old Coldplay.

oergh?

This must be irony?

What supermodel does Gary Lightsabre go out with?

Pot, kettle, black innit.

The "T-Rex, Abba and Slade - the smug, formulaic, big-selling pop music of the day" quote, that is.

The Bee Gees, for example, have since Saturday Night Fever been perceived as a big-haired, tight-trousered cabaret act....

Errrrrrrr, by Clive Anderson

OK, it's time for some creative condensing here:

When Chris Martin walked out, a gleeful press relished the thought of mauling Alan McGee's famous "bedwetters" alongside James Blunt and Andy Gill - he doesn't know a single person. the White Stripes carefully placed a chord despite the best efforts of Led Zeppelin - upstarts who had nothing to do with the approved Led Zeppelin records, the third album suffering scrubbed up Bee Gees, who have written as many classics as tossers.

Sleeper ended up outselling knives. Louise Wener, who it must be said, was fond of the Boo Radleys "because they look like journalists".

Is James Blunt just like supermodels?

Whatever, it seems Chris Martin just needs to wait a while to get some Abba pop music.

stop making sense.

OK:

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Good God, the last sentence there could have been written by Geir.

great-vendendo music pop of the day.

Comstock, shurely?

Chris Martin walked out of a Radio last week muttering. Martin's eight famous "bedwetters", Coldplay, hate Phil Collins, Supertramp, Sting, and, more recently, James Blunt, Snow Patrol and Keane.

So what is it about this Andy Gill - he doesn't know a single person. Gill's friends have the Vampire on the table, butchering their younger brother and suffering the most.

scrubbed black Bee Gees, tight-trousered Beatles, they stormed out of Clive Anderson, he never enjoyed the ride, ended up outselling Louise Wener, who was fond of a middle-class guy who happens to be earning millions.

Whatever, it seems Chris Martin just needs to wait a while to get smug, formulaic.

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Wener looks fine here ... but Tony Parsons (wtf??) doesn't

She's as smart as she is talented.