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I'm not sure if there' been much talk about this comp. on ILM (couldn't find anything). But it looks like Ministry of Sound have gone grime. RWDMAG have a feature up on it already. And just at time when jess was complaining about the lack of mainstream crossover for the scene (other than Dizzee). If you're in the UK, I guess the TV Ads would be up by now?

So anyone heard this? Someone explain to me why Wiley doesn't get a look in? Surely the ICERINK series are definitive anthems?

― MchoMiko, Saturday, 6 September 2003 00:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Suppose 'I Luv U' should be there for the complete anthology aspect, if it hadn't been utterly caned (probably should just give it a rest anyway). I'll probably get this comp hoping for a sort of Sound of the Pirates encapsulation of an era tho...

― MchoMiko, Saturday, 6 September 2003 01:19 (twenty-two years ago)

looks like i cleaves to the more instrumental/dubstep end frankly (i mean, darqwan?!)

― gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 6 September 2003 08:18 (twenty-two years ago)

(and can i be the only one to find jon e cash boring as fuck?)

― gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 6 September 2003 08:22 (twenty-two years ago)

(also dodgiest psuedonym since ellis dee.)

― gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 6 September 2003 08:22 (twenty-two years ago)

well i think you;re being a bit harsh star. i mean even now hearing 'war' dropped in ANY garage set never fails to send the hairs on the underside of my nutsack stand on end. and spanish is one of my favourite tunes of the year! and dodgy pseudonyms are the essence of british dance music!! hata

― sean g, Saturday, 6 September 2003 14:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, Darqwan is there - I raised my eyebrows a little, but then Plasticman, Donae’o and Target get a look in. Maybe this mix would pay off as a sort cap on UKG in transition better than the strictly Roll Deep/Wiley breakneck grime that I've been exposed to recently.

I'd like to hear some more from God's Gift anyway...

― MchoMiko, Monday, 8 September 2003 06:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Neither sets are surprising considering that it's Femme Fatale and Geenius (who is heavily on the dubstep/grime crossover tip at the moment). That said the Femme Fatale mix isn't as strong as it could be, it doesn't look like a considered round-up so much as an average 1xtra set from the end of last year. I wouldn't be surprised if her mix *was* from the end of last year, actually.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 8 September 2003 06:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Shame - cause I'm still looking out for a good comp. Any suggestions Tim?

All I got to show is a heap of tracks with no MCs and the 'Boy in Da Corner' CD - which, I'm sure is much more an an ALBUM take on the scene, rather than indicative of what's actually bubbling under. I still want to get handle on how this stuff works (what it can do) - if you know what I mean...

― MchoMiko, Monday, 8 September 2003 06:50 (twenty-two years ago)

"Shame - cause I'm still looking out for a good comp. Any suggestions Tim?"

Unfortunately my grime love affair is strictly on-line.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 8 September 2003 07:24 (twenty-two years ago)

I do recommend it (Smoove presents Street Beats), b-cause:

* even though it's missing some faves & recents, there's plenty great tracks!
* ...from which the veil of mp3 crapness is lifted!
* ...since it's the first official UK garage/grime comp in ages!
* much of the time God's Gift sounds absolutely ferocious!
* good document of the way this music works - tunes as MC tools, set-builders: play for skepta-cle friends!
* Ministry Of Sound needs to be encouraged to release more grimerage!

I like a lot of the less familiar tracks and it's helped hearing some of them in action, but I've yet to stripmine it if you know what I mean. Jon E Cash's "Kettle" is a definite standout though.

file under: pleasantly surprised

― Paul (scifisoul), Monday, 8 September 2003 11:14 (twenty-two years ago)

sorry, listening again it's Eastwood - "Elastik (V.I.P. mix)" that I was lovin' in place of the Jon E Cash track.

― Paul (scifisoul), Monday, 8 September 2003 14:38 (twenty-two years ago)

counterpoint: ultimately Street Beats doesn't hold a candle to 'that Nasty Crew mix' though, and there's a distinct lack of foulplayification...

― Paul (scifisoul), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 00:32 (twenty-two years ago)

also it probably doesn't sound like it was recorded with the casette deck in the toilet

― gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 00:37 (twenty-two years ago)

LOO FM

― Paul (scifisoul), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 01:05 (twenty-two years ago)

the grimiest

― gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 01:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Yuck!

Seriously that nasty crew set doesn't get enough props (and it does get quite a bit!). It's astonishing - they should just release it as their album.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 01:30 (twenty-two years ago)

high quality official mixes are quite rare, aren't they?

― Paul (scifisoul), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 01:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Is there gonna be an unmixed, MC-less version of this? Or am I missing the point somewhat? I hate one-genre mix albums.

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 10:14 (twenty-two years ago)

I found out that that Foulplayified track 28 minutes into the Nasty set, with the flute and the oompah beats and the Ain't a Game lyrics is Jammer's 'Weedman', and the one right after it with the record scratch is Jammer ft Wiley & Bigga Man's 'Pick & Mix'.

― Keith McD (Keith McD), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 10:22 (twenty-two years ago)

You seriously prefer eightbars unmixed and MCless, Paul???

― Keith McD (Keith McD), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 11:04 (twenty-two years ago)

I mean Charlie

― Keith McD (Keith McD), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 11:04 (twenty-two years ago)

You seriously prefer eightbars unmixed and MCless, Charlie???

(see what I did there? Stalin, I...)

Er, yes I do, if you mean what I think you mean. I like my tracks unsullied and unmixed so I can make good use of them myself. Otherwise you just get the meat'n'potatoes of a track to play with, and that's alright but I just feel like a cheat.

And I've always hated MCs, although I will concede that my experience of them is mainly limited to early '90s raves and recent East London pirate radio. If they had something interesting to say, perhaps I'd be more interested. But then again, if they had something more interesting to say, I guess they'd be rappers not MCs. Hmmm.

― CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 11:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Keith, thanks for track i.d.s!

― Paul (scifisoul), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 12:37 (twenty-two years ago)

God that B-Live fellow is shit. its embarrassing! that first disc has been rendered unlistenable by his lame shit. I can't work out who's worse though - B Live or MC Viper.
Actually B Live is way shitter. that dum cod-US accent! FUcks sake! 'clack clack clack'! 'fuck fuck fuck off'!

― ambrose (ambrose), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 17:55 (twenty-two years ago)

mm i do like god's gift, there's a j2k hosted 12 around at the moment where yr fave mcs do covers of current us tracks, god's gift does never scared! and acquits himself rather well

― Chip Morningstar (bob), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 18:13 (twenty-two years ago)

ha chip please post the rest of the tracklist on that one.

― gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 9 September 2003 18:47 (twenty-two years ago)

That's crazy Charlie - all I got are unmixed 'unsullied' tracks - I wanna hear some crazy fuckin' grime MC rapping over the top!

The only feeling I've got for the 'total' experience of grime, is a Roll Deep live show I downloaded somewhere that's utterly toilet-mix quality, and with this weird start-stop vibe to it. Like, Dizzee's rhyming over beats, and then all of a sudden the music cuts out and he's just ends up chatting for a while. What's up with that?

Can someone actually tell me - someone who goes to these raves in London preferably - is it the case that most of the shows sound fuckup, or does it generally all come together? I'm even thinking about that line in the 'Boy in da Corner' liner-notes thanking people for showing up to raves, even though Roll-Deep didn't end up playing...

Am I reading this right?

― MchoMiko, Wednesday, 10 September 2003 02:22 (twenty-two years ago)

If you're talking about the Love Shy set, the stop-start thing is because the DJ's headphones lead is broken and because of rewinds. I love it, it's fucking grimey as. But it would suck if all grime sets were like that.

― Keith McD (Keith McD), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 02:58 (twenty-two years ago)

MchMiko, listen to the set at http://www.nasty-crew.tk
In a way it's the opposite of the Roll Deep one: very tight, some sunny sounds. It's also the greatest thing since sliced bread.

― Keith McD (Keith McD), Wednesday, 10 September 2003 03:05 (twenty-two years ago)

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