Article Response: ATPinefox

Unlikely thrill, to watch it go through motions of the ordinary world, when you think you’re on a trip to the extraordinary one.

Yes, you did first hear 'I Fought In A War' in a chalet. Three months or so ahead of release, and I remember that thrill. I had gone through it the week before in a ceremonial listening with Tom's ex-flatmate, the illicit goods conveyed by hand all the way from greenest SE london to the heart of Stoke Newington. But we needed to then. We did.

Who is the "former child star showing he can play a D" I wonder?"

bad bit: PF actually leaving the chalet during the wknd to see bands. it wd have been fantastic if he'd just stayed put!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/film/3102536.stm

Strange how careers diverge.

I liked this article a lot, it may be my favorite thing in FT this month.

PF did you see this comment on the piece? Interesting I think.

The whole ATP/Bowlie transition/tradition is a curious one though, and not something I quite have a handle on.

The pinefox wasn't even at Bowlie.

But Ricky T is otm really.

Ricky T is otm really.

The favourable comments are appreciated.

Nobody likes smugness. And nobody likes to be smug, or to find that they have given the impression that they are. But if you don't like something, or dislike it intensely, then perhaps you will appear to its fans to think you're 'superior' to it. I am hardly going to claim to be ... inferior to it.

There seems to be a whole layer of Belle and Sebastian fans who feel emotionally attached to ATP purely because of the pre-cursor Bowlie and spend a weekend each year trying vainly to recreate it at what is technically and actually a completely different festival, both in terms of organisation, music and audience.

In general, this is not utter hokum. But as N. has said, I was not at 'The' "Bowlie". My own favourite ATP memory is 2000.

Although very few people would say they go to ATP purely for the music, I would hope most people go because they're interested or intrigued by the line-up and want to hear some new and exciting music.

Many people probably do go for that motive. Probably I was not trying to report their experience, but that of others, who are, or were, multiple.

Not long ago I met some friends who had just got back from ATP and loved it. I liked talking to them about it, though I thought the line-up looked to have been abysmal.

In the FT article, there's a patronising air that the bands were unimportant, unmelodic

To me, ATP bands seem unmelodic. And to me, they feel unimportant; but presumably important enough to drive me to write about them. I think the article has a fuller analysis of my own processes of disliking than this, actually.

maybe they should pack up their 'We were here first' indie cred

I have or seek no indie cred. I was in Woolwich, first.

Or just go for a weekend in Skegness.

I would like to go for a weekend in Skegness, I think.

I wish I knew how to do italics so that nobody thinks I wrote that, it comes from Diskant. I can't quite follow the logic of it.

Is this RJG and Ally C's flatmate?

2. Yes.

Come to think of it, I was at Butlins in Ayr in 1978...

If we have another Bowlie, can I request that we have it at a '70s Butlins?

Peter... the Bible recommends you take a bath rather than a shower if you wish to remain clean after your wank. Chris Leonard told me this at the Sunday service in Hyndland church.