On this sunny September saturday morning can we all agree that this is the most perfectest pop song of all time?

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I pictured a rainbow
You held in your hands
I had flashes
But you saw then plan
I wondered out in the world for years
While you just stayed in your room
I saw the crescent
You saw the whole of the moon!
The whole of the moon!

You were there at the turnstiles
With the wind at your heels
You stretched for the stars
And you know how it feels
To reach too high
Too far
Too soon
You saw the whole of the moon!

I was grounded
While you filled the skies
I was dumbfounded by truths
You cut through lies
I saw the rain-dirty valley
You saw brigadoon
I saw the crescent
You saw the whole of the moon!

I spoke about wings
You just flew
I wondered, i guessed, and i tried
You just knew
I sighed
But you swooned
I saw the crescent
You saw the whole of the moon!
The whole of the moon!

With a torch in your pocket
And the wind at your heels
You climbed on the ladder
And you know how it feels
To reach too high
Too far
Too soon
You saw the whole of the moon!
The whole of the moon!

Unicorns and cannonballs,
Palaces and piers,
Trumpets, towers, and tenemets,
Wide oceans full of tears,
Flag, rags, ferry boats,
Scimitars and scarves,
Every precious dream and vision
Underneath the stars

You climbed on the ladder
With the wind in your sails
You came like a comet
Blazing your trail
Too high
Too far
Too soon
You saw the whole of the moon!

Coat Hanger (c_hanger), Saturday, 13 September 2003 09:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Never much cared for the Waterboys, actually. And it's raining here, by the way.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 13 September 2003 10:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Too bombastic sounding.

Anyways, today the most perfect song is Dead prez 'hip-hop'.

scottjames23 (worrysome-man), Saturday, 13 September 2003 11:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeh, far too bombastic.

Actually, I was going to start a thread proclaiming "Kids in America" as the best pop song to have ever strode the planet, but I thought better of it.

Johnney B (Johnney B), Saturday, 13 September 2003 11:37 (twenty-two years ago)

"far too bombastic"
sounds like great pop song to me,
what's the deal you guys?

I too love this song
but my vote's for ann peebles'
"I can't stand the rain"

it's wisconsin here:
after weeks of hot dryness,
drizzle fo shizzle

Haikunym (Haikunym), Saturday, 13 September 2003 11:40 (twenty-two years ago)

So how does it go?

Jazzbo (jmcgaw), Saturday, 13 September 2003 12:11 (twenty-two years ago)

what if 'The Whole Of The Moon' was a Bowie song?

stevem (blueski), Saturday, 13 September 2003 14:22 (twenty-two years ago)

as in sung by! maybe it would get more respect? hmm

stevem (blueski), Saturday, 13 September 2003 14:23 (twenty-two years ago)

nah. wouldn't matter who sung it. it'd always be one of my least favourite songs ever.

frenchbloke (frenchbloke), Saturday, 13 September 2003 14:39 (twenty-two years ago)

It's a great and wonderful song, but it's still no "Somebody's Baby."

My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Saturday, 13 September 2003 15:23 (twenty-two years ago)

The most perfectest pop song of all time is "Driver's Seat" by Sniff 'n the Tears. Everyone knows that.

Marcel Post (Marcel Post), Saturday, 13 September 2003 15:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Wrong. The perfectest perfect pop song of all is, of course, "Crash" by the Primitives.

JP Almeida (JP Almeida), Saturday, 13 September 2003 17:10 (twenty-two years ago)

you people have really odd definitions of "pop."

gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 13 September 2003 17:13 (twenty-two years ago)

haha, the best song I heard this morning was Crazy Town's "Butterfly," followed by Grandaddy's "Stray Dog And The Chocolate Shake."

But the perfectest pop song of all time is "Under Pressure" by Queen and David Bowie. And I know it's pop because it was the 10th most POPular song of all time on that British poll.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 13 September 2003 17:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Over the Rainbow!

ryan (ryan), Saturday, 13 September 2003 17:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Perfect 3 min pop songs:

Pixies - Here comes your man
The Cure - Boys don't cry
Human League - Don't you want me
Madonna - Into the groove
Depeche Mode - Just can't get enough

Seb, Saturday, 13 September 2003 19:37 (twenty-two years ago)

'Do You Believe In Magic' - The Lovin' Spoonful

Andrew L (Andrew L), Saturday, 13 September 2003 19:38 (twenty-two years ago)

linkin park 'numb'.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 13 September 2003 19:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Pop Music For People Who Hit Puberty During The First Bush Administration cdr:

The Sundays: Here's Where The Story Ends
The La's: Timeless Melody
The La's: There She Goes
The Charlatans UK: The Only One I Know
Material Issue: Valerie Loves Me
Kitches Of Distinction: Drive That Fast
Chapterhouse: Pearl
Dinosaur Jr.: Thumb
Yo La Tengo: Tears Are In Your Eyes
The Beach Boys: Caroline No
Love: Alone Again Or
The Left Banke: Walk Away Renee
The Jam: Beat Surrender
Television Personalities: Silly Girl
The Smiths: Stop Me If You've Heard This One Before
The Smiths: Panic
St. Etienne: Only Love Can Break Your Heart


Mike Taylor (mjt), Saturday, 13 September 2003 20:41 (twenty-two years ago)

The most perfectest pop song of all time is "Driver's Seat" by Sniff 'n the Tears. Everyone knows that.

A nice choice, but not quite.

linkin park 'numb'.

You continue to shock and sicken me, Julio.

The *REAL* "most perfectest" pop song is revealed here.....

Could there be a finer example of Perfect Pop Music than.....

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Saturday, 13 September 2003 20:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Sebastien's winning so far, as much as I like "Whole of the Moon" and a lot of Mike's choices.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Saturday, 13 September 2003 20:52 (twenty-two years ago)

mr.taylor, you are right on.

lauren (laurenp), Saturday, 13 September 2003 22:01 (twenty-two years ago)

"Mrs. Robinson" - Simon & Garfunkle

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Saturday, 13 September 2003 23:16 (twenty-two years ago)

The Smashing Pumpkins - "Today"

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Saturday, 13 September 2003 23:36 (twenty-two years ago)

The Records - Starry Eyes

nickn (nickn), Sunday, 14 September 2003 01:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Dammit! I begin and then think the better of responding to a dozen threads, but finally THIS is the one I'm (really) going to answer, 'Cept nickn took my answer. "Whole of the Moon" isn't my idea of a very good song, btw.

Sean (Sean), Sunday, 14 September 2003 02:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Sorry, man.

nickn (nickn), Sunday, 14 September 2003 04:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Someone did a double-take when I put 'Whole of the Moon' in one of my 'Download Before You Die' lists. Who's laughing now, suckers?

Barima (Barima), Sunday, 14 September 2003 10:02 (twenty-two years ago)

'Do You Believe In Magic' - The Lovin' Spoonful
-- Andrew L (theplum...), September 13th, 2003.

Give this man a coconut

Dadaismus (Dada), Sunday, 14 September 2003 14:23 (twenty-two years ago)

''You continue to shock and sicken me, Julio''

I'm doing something right then.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 14 September 2003 14:35 (twenty-two years ago)

"I did a big thing
You did a bigger thing
I thought a big thought
you thought an even bigger thought
I did a lot of work on something
You did next to nothing
I saw the crescent
you saw the whole of the moon...."

mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 15 September 2003 11:31 (twenty-two years ago)

I can't stop staring at that list of pop music for people who hit puberty during the Bush administration long enough to make a coherent answer to this question. What the fuck, dude?

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 15 September 2003 13:13 (twenty-two years ago)

"Atomic" by Blondie remains the only acceptable answer.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 15 September 2003 13:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Blondie have quite a few better songs in their repertoire though.

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 15 September 2003 14:29 (twenty-two years ago)

...mebbe so, but they're not the quintessence of pop brilliance that reamins "Atomic".

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 15 September 2003 14:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Atomic is the best pop song ever (IMHO etc.)

Freedom Dupont, Monday, 15 September 2003 14:42 (twenty-two years ago)

So, then wait a second: Blondie is a pop band. You are agreeing that Blondie have better songs than "Atomic". Blondie, being a pop band, do songs that are pop songs. If several of those songs are better than "Atomic", wouldn't this imply those songs are better pop songs? I'm confused.

And yeah I saw the thread about Atomic and I totally agree with your sentiments, I just don't think it's the best pop song ever.

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 15 September 2003 14:55 (twenty-two years ago)

So, then wait a second: Blondie is a pop band. You are agreeing that Blondie have better songs than "Atomic". Blondie, being a pop band, do songs that are pop songs. If several of those songs are better than "Atomic", wouldn't this imply those songs are better pop songs? I'm confused.

I think Blondie have better songs than "Atomic", but I don't think those songs (specifically "One Way or Another", "Hangin' On the Telephone" and maybe "Dreaming") are as representative of pure POP PERFECTION as "Atomic". "One Way or Another" is riotously good, but it's a bit too jagged to wear the crown.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 15 September 2003 15:04 (twenty-two years ago)

the most perfectest pop song of all time must be sad and tuneful and more than a little bit weird, and it must have a chorus you could repeat forever if not longer, and it gets bonus points if either (a) it's left a trail of suicide in its wake, and/or (b) oldies flagship 101 fm new york does not play it, which means it can still maintain an entirely private hold over your sad heart, and/or (c) dalida has covered it.

the only conceivable choice is luigi tenco's "ciao amore."

p.s. the magnetic fields' "i have the moon" is a better perfect-pop moon song than "the whole of the moon," even if "the whole of the moon" did happen to be on, and be the reason for, the first cd that fact checking cuz ever bought. by strange coincidence, it was also the first cd that fact checking cuz ever sold.

fact checking cuz, Monday, 15 September 2003 15:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha Alex I like your technique of saying the exact same thing, but in BOLD CAPITAL LETTERS as if I somehow missed that the first time. I can see why you'd disqualify "One Way Or Another" though, but OTOH it's really about as jagged punk as any number of modern faux-punk pop acts (before you hunt me down and belt me in the face, I'm not saying it isn't vastly superior to those acts), and it's also as punk as "Atomic" is "disco"--so I'm kind of thinking "Atomic" isn't quite...MOR enough for this qualification. It's quite a bit too Moroder instead...

I'm thinking more along the lines of certain ABBA tracks being better qualified if we're going to break this down to a science of pop perfection.

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 15 September 2003 15:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, Ally, I'd agree with you....IF YOU WERE RIGHT!

"S.O.S." by Abba is easily in the same league as "Atomic."

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 15 September 2003 15:38 (twenty-two years ago)

The Beatles: 'I'm Only Sleeping'

Jay Kid (Jay K), Monday, 15 September 2003 15:54 (twenty-two years ago)

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PERSON 1: YOU ARE WRONG!
PERSON 2: NO I AM NOT!
PERSON 1: YES YOU ARE!
PERSON 2: NO!
PERSON 1: YES!
PERSON 3:
ilx in sucking shockah!

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 15 September 2003 16:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Alex, do you see what I'm saying though? If the other songs you mentioned are too rough/punk, then why is "Atomic" not too disco? What about trad disco is more "perfect pop" than punk?

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 15 September 2003 16:04 (twenty-two years ago)

What about trad disco is more "perfect pop" than punk?

This question is the core of this argument, I'd say. I dunno, really. I imagine it has something to do with traditional Disco's seemingly wider accesibility than Punk Rock (and at this point, the purists and the pedants will weigh in on what credibly constitutes Punk Rock, but that's a topic for a bajillion other threads). If one were a believer in majority rule, one could simply hold up a copy of the soundtrack to Saturday Night Fever and a copy of, say, Never Mind the Bollocks and ask which sold more copies, but this tactic is also somewhat flawed.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 15 September 2003 17:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I'd completely forgotten 'Valerie loves me'. What a gem..

Fabrice (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 13:48 (twenty-two years ago)

On this rainy September Tuesday 'ternoon,
the perfectest pop song is
"Love Stepping Out", Disco Inferno

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 14:22 (twenty-two years ago)

The Nazz's "Open My Eyes" gets my vote for most perfectest pop song.

This song has a bit of everything: a great guitar riff, a shredding guitar solo, vocal harmony out the wazzoo, loungey bridge which leads into a thunderous drum/guitar solo break, cool sounding flanged 60s lead vocals over the end and the title of the song is used as the lyric hook.

If this song was a mathmatical equasion it would be:

"Open My Eyes" = "Day Tripper" x "I Can See for Miles"

I'll never understand why Todd Rundgren didn't write fifty more just like it or why it wasn't a big smash hit.

Blondie's best single is "Dreaming" or at least I think so.


earlnash, Tuesday, 16 September 2003 14:37 (twenty-two years ago)

this is the sickest thread ever. further proof that ilx should be stopped. please delete it.

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 14:40 (twenty-two years ago)

i would like to apologize for referring to myself in the third person above. i shan't be doing that again.

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 16 September 2003 16:41 (twenty-two years ago)

i nominate "never gonna get it" by en vogue.

Felcher (Felcher), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 17:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Has to be the ultimate pop song as epic, Good Vibrations, surely. It has everything:

"I, I love the colourful clothes she wears
And the way the sunlight plays upon her hair
I hear the sound of a gentle word
On the wind that lifts her perfume through the air
I'm pickin' up good vibrations
She's giving me excitations
I'm pickin' up good vibrations
(Oom bop bop good vibrations )
She's giving me excitations
(Oom bop bop excitations )
Good good good good vibrations
(Oom bop bop)
She's giving me excitations
(Oom bop bop excitations )
Good good good good vibrations
(Oom bop bop)
She's giving me excitations
(Oom bop bop excitations )
Close my eyes
She's somehow closer now
Softly smile , I know she must be kind
When I look in her eyes
She goes with me to a blossom world
I'm pickin' up good vibrations
She's giving me excitations
I'm pickin' up good vibrations
(Oom bop bop good vibrations )
She's giving me excitations
(Oom bop bop excitations )
Good good good good vibrations
(Oom bop bop)
She's giving me excitations
(Oom bop bop excitations )
Good good good good vibrations
(Oom bop bop)
She's giving me excitations
(Oom bop bop excitations )
(Ahhhhhhh )
(Ah my my what elation )
I don't know where but she sends me there
(Ah my my what a sensation )
(Ah my my what elations )
(Ah my my what)
Gotta keep those lovin' good vibrations
A happenin' with her
Gotta keep those lovin' good vibrations
A happenin' with her
Gotta keep those lovin' good vibrations
A happenin'
Ahhhhhhhh
Good good good good vibrations
(Oom bop bop)
(I'm pickin up good vibrations )
She's giving me excitations
(Oom bop bop)
(Excitations )
Good good good good vibrations
(Oom bop bop)
She's na na . . .
Na na na na na
Na na na
Na na na na na
Na na na
Do do do do do
Do do do
Do do do do do
Do do do"


My my, what elations!

David Merryweather (DavidM), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 17:34 (twenty-two years ago)

The Nazz's "Open My Eyes" gets my vote for most perfectest pop song.

Another mighty fine choice. Seek out "Her Head's Revolving" by the Three O'Clock (80's paisley underground band), as the track was modelled after "Open My Eyes".

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 17:40 (twenty-two years ago)

The song that strikes me as the perfectestest pop song evah on this sunny Tuesday afternoon is The Cardigans' "Lovefule".

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 17:42 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...
I AGREE WITH THE ISSUE.

hobart paving (hobart paving), Tuesday, 19 April 2005 13:57 (twenty years ago)


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