the most unwieldy lyrics, wedded to the catchiest/prettiest/most appealing melodies

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Can anything beat Art & Language and the Red Crayola’s Corrected Slogans in this regard?

"It’s not the social content
It’s always the political form...
To fail to perceive the difference
Is to fail to perceive the difference
Between the meaningless pattern
Of political occurrence
And historical meaning in social life.

To stipulate the difference
Is to fail to perceive the difference
Between boundary postulation
And boundary location."

-- "Keep All Your Friends"

"’C,’ ‘V’ and ‘D’ are fundamental’
‘D’ should be ‘S’ but it’s inconsequential
‘C’ is constant capital
‘V’ is varied capital
‘D’ is surplus value
‘C’ is the produced means of production
‘V’ is wages and
‘D’ is excess of the net production
The profit rate is ‘D’ over ‘C’ plus ‘V’
As a long-term tendency...

‘C’ plus ‘V’ rises faster than traditions
Numerator ‘D’;
But we must reject the argument
As formally inconsistent
And politically irrelevant."

-- "Ergastulum"

etc....

Sam J. (samjeff), Saturday, 13 September 2003 20:31 (twenty-two years ago)

A rival:

"My dear friend Giorgio
How has this time Breton discouraged your liaison
With the eye-styled metaphysical incongruous scenarios?"

-- 10,000 Maniacs, "Poor De Chirico"

Sam J. (samjeff), Saturday, 13 September 2003 20:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Hehehe ... love those lyrics to "Ergastulum". Mayo fucking rules.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Saturday, 13 September 2003 20:40 (twenty-two years ago)

manic street preachers "yes" (and most all of that album, although the LP isn't altogether catchy/pretty)

the surface noise (electricsound), Sunday, 14 September 2003 02:10 (twenty-two years ago)

this is like the standing definition for shit music.

vahid (vahid), Sunday, 14 September 2003 02:23 (twenty-two years ago)

well actually it's not, though having the msp and they might be giants pop into my head simultaneously made it seem thus.

vahid (vahid), Sunday, 14 September 2003 02:24 (twenty-two years ago)

i guess stereolab falls squarely into this category, too. but i LIKE stereolab :(

vahid (vahid), Sunday, 14 September 2003 02:24 (twenty-two years ago)

mccarthy too

the surface noise (electricsound), Sunday, 14 September 2003 02:25 (twenty-two years ago)

is there a k-tel compilation called "college rock"?

vahid (vahid), Sunday, 14 September 2003 02:25 (twenty-two years ago)

I swear that 'Pipeline' from Blegvad and Greaves' "Kew. Rhone." is very catchy, in its own way, and very pretty:

"Here are two gentlemen
and a lady
contemplating a length of dug-up pipeline.

Figure B.
Illustrates
the assertion -
'ambiguity can't be measured like a change of temperature'

Figure C consists of
a list of
assorted equipage.
A gentleman imagines how the
items on the
list would look if
only part exhumed.

(He thinks they wouldn't look unlike a length of pipe).

'When you remove a rung
from a ladder,
The whole is suddenly part, the part is whole.
But the hue
and temperature
of a pipeline
are ineluctably parts. Without the pipeline they would cease to be.'

'Anything you care to mention
of three dimensions
(like a length of pipe)
in a certain light
may be seen as the
projection or the shadow of an
entity of four dimensions' (see figure D.)"

dlp9001, Sunday, 14 September 2003 02:29 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm trying to picture these lyrics sung over power pop but i keep hearing kool keith instead

vahid (vahid), Sunday, 14 September 2003 02:41 (twenty-two years ago)

aaliyah in 'at your best' spouting r kelly's self help/couple councelling dialogue

'you're a positive motivating force within my life'

minna (minna), Sunday, 14 September 2003 05:12 (twenty-two years ago)

'Pipeline' from Blegvad and Greaves' "Kew. Rhone."

[Pulls out disc] Yes, that is nice. I bet there's other Cow-related stuff that qualifies, as well....

Sam J. (samjeff), Monday, 15 September 2003 13:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Henry Cow? Catchy, pretty and appealing? Kew.Rhone maybe

Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 15 September 2003 13:49 (twenty-two years ago)

ESOJ is totally OTM, I'm really not sure how the hell Bradfield got out half the lyrics on that album. Several of the songs he actually cannot sing live because he can't play the guitar bits, which are generally fairly complicated, and sing the lyrics at the same time.

Also because they are too busy singing crap like Tsunami.

Ally (mlescaut), Monday, 15 September 2003 14:34 (twenty-two years ago)

The Beta Band's "Round The Bend" (and much of their output, in fact) fits in well here.

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Monday, 15 September 2003 16:46 (twenty-two years ago)

The Holy Bible is hella catchy (well, the riffs are anyway)! Map Ref by Wire fits this thread pretty nicely too.

Damian (Damian), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 11:52 (twenty-two years ago)

yep was just about 2 say map ref by wire.

piscesboy, Wednesday, 17 September 2003 11:35 (twenty-two years ago)

"Round the Bend" is one of my favorite Beta Band songs...I love the part where he's just going off about Pet Sounds and going to see the pyramids.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 13:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Most of The Beach Boys "hot rod" car songs fit this bill perfectly. The lyrics are absurdly technical but the melodies are very appealing.

"It really rates fine in the custom clan
With hand-formed panels, tuck-and-roll rear pan"


James Larcombe, Wednesday, 17 September 2003 13:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Beach Boys (well, Brian Wilson), "Surf's Up"

"A diamond necklace played the pawn
Hand in hand some drummed along, oh
To a handsome man and baton
A blind class aristocracy
Back through the opera glass you see
The pit and the pendulum drawn
Columnated ruins domino

Canvass the town and brush the backdrop
Are you sleeping?

Hung velvet overtaken me
Dim chandelier awaken me
To a song dissolved in the dawn
The music hall a costly bow
The music all is lost for now
To a muted trumperter swan
Columnated ruins domino

Canvass the town and brush the backdrop
Are you sleeping, Brother John?

Dove nested towers the hour was
Strike the street quicksilver moon
Carriage across the fog
Two-Step to lamp lights cellar tune
The laughs come hard in Auld Lang Syne

The glass was raised, the fired rose
The fullness of the wine, the dim last toasting
While at port adieu or die

A choke of grief heart hardened I
Beyond belief a broken man too tough to cry

Surf's Up
Aboard a tidal wave
Come about hard and join
The young and often spring you gave
I heard the word
Wonderful thing
A children's song"

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 16:18 (twenty-two years ago)


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