― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 14:41 (twenty-one years ago) link
― gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 14:47 (twenty-one years ago) link
like this is any kind of excuse... i know what you lot get up to with computers and stuff
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 14:52 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 15:04 (twenty-one years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 15:07 (twenty-one years ago) link
― gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 15:10 (twenty-one years ago) link
i prefer to think of it as enthusiasm, thinking other people here might have heard it and wanting to get to the bottom of why I like it so much. however, matos that is not to take issue with the obvious fact that you are indeed too good for this place
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 15:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 15:24 (twenty-one years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 16:44 (twenty-one years ago) link
― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 17:08 (twenty-one years ago) link
i think the fennesz remix is pretty perfunctory, all in all. he's verging on self-parody a bit.
nick.K is a super nice guy, yes.
― gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 17:10 (twenty-one years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 17:11 (twenty-one years ago) link
― gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 17:16 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Tuesday, 16 September 2003 17:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
― geeta, Tuesday, 16 September 2003 18:06 (twenty-one years ago) link
― nick.K (nick.K), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 00:19 (twenty-one years ago) link
― gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 00:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
― philip sherburne (philip sherburne), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 00:32 (twenty-one years ago) link
― gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 05:38 (twenty-one years ago) link
(actually possibly longer, i heard it two years ago but maybe it's even older than that.)
― toby (tsg20), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 06:15 (twenty-one years ago) link
I hope "More Than Real" and "High Come Down" end up getting a release at some stage as well - Nick...?
(ps. Nick I sent an e-mail to you a while ago with some media info and I just got it bounced back after two months, assume it's my fault not yours. anyway i'll send it again w/ some modifications asap)
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 07:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Chip Morningstar (bob), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 07:48 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Chip Morningstar (bob), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 07:50 (twenty-one years ago) link
― nick.K (nick.K), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 08:12 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 08:44 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Wednesday, 17 September 2003 09:34 (twenty-one years ago) link
― manuel (manuel), Thursday, 18 September 2003 07:34 (twenty-one years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 18 September 2003 07:43 (twenty-one years ago) link
― nick.K (nick.K), Thursday, 18 September 2003 11:48 (twenty-one years ago) link
― nick.K (nick.K), Thursday, 18 September 2003 11:53 (twenty-one years ago) link
― nick.K (nick.K), Thursday, 18 September 2003 11:55 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 18 September 2003 11:56 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 18 September 2003 11:58 (twenty-one years ago) link
― nick.K (nick.K), Thursday, 18 September 2003 12:25 (twenty-one years ago) link
― nick.K (nick.K), Friday, 19 September 2003 12:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
― nick.K (nick.K), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 17:53 (twenty-one years ago) link
― nick.K (nick.K), Saturday, 11 October 2003 08:53 (twenty-one years ago) link
― kattie, Tuesday, 14 October 2003 08:17 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jed (jed_e_3), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 09:32 (twenty-one years ago) link
― kattie, Tuesday, 14 October 2003 14:57 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jed (jed_e_3), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 15:42 (twenty-one years ago) link
― nick.K (nick.K), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 19:31 (twenty-one years ago) link
― gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 20:28 (twenty-one years ago) link
― adaml (adaml), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 20:32 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Keith McD (Keith McD), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 01:03 (twenty-one years ago) link
― prima fassy (bob), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 08:57 (twenty-one years ago) link
you know what's bonkers? this is one of, seriously, 24 threads about junior boys on ilm, lol.
― jaymc, Sunday, 21 September 2014 04:42 (ten years ago) link
i think they're a band, tho, where i'll probably listen to anything they do as long as they keep making records. like the sea & cake, you know. even if it's mediocre, it's a sound that i find very appealing.
― jaymc, Sunday, 21 September 2014 04:45 (ten years ago) link
i find it hard to defend certain musical artists who have my aesthetic number, so to speak. i will genuinely stump for last exit and so this is goodbye, tho.
― jaymc, Sunday, 21 September 2014 04:46 (ten years ago) link
For me the 3 most frustrating albums from the 00s onwards are:
yeah yeah yeahs - its blitzThe rapture - house of jealous loversJunior Boys - last exit
I love most of the compositions in those records but hate the way they are mixed. I'm not a producer so I don't know how to describe it properly but it sounds too high on the treble for a dance album. It sounds spike-y, it kind of aches my ears and it frustrates me because with a different, better production I'm sure they'd be amazing
― Moka, Sunday, 21 September 2014 07:58 (ten years ago) link
this could be to do with what's known in the industry as "dynamic range compression", or DRC for short. basically they "compress" the dynamic range, and this basically compresses the sound. it's a real "hot topic" among music buffs, and could change the way we listen to music for years to come
― cool music buff (missingNO), Sunday, 21 September 2014 11:33 (ten years ago) link
It's amazing how well Last Exit holds up 14 (!) years later.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 7 March 2018 23:22 (six years ago) link
New one is gorgeous. I'm in love with side 2, in particular. AOTY material for me
― Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 23 October 2022 00:07 (two years ago) link
Really lovely stuff yeah. Their most ambient release by a wide margin but that seems like a very logical space for them to explore. Not sure where it’ll end up in my estimations, but then I only fully fell in love with the last two albums this year, so.
― Tim F, Thursday, 27 October 2022 21:35 (two years ago) link
I think this is easily their best album to date.
― boxedjoy, Friday, 28 October 2022 07:13 (two years ago) link
Tough to beat Last Exit but this one may be a contender, for sure
Also disappointed that this thread title remains sadly apt. Where is everyone?
― Paul Ponzi, Friday, 28 October 2022 10:46 (two years ago) link
wow this is sublime
― ufo, Friday, 28 October 2022 11:24 (two years ago) link
This is absolutely gorgeous. My favourite since So This Is Goodbye. Exactly the kind of album I needed today.
― kitchen person, Friday, 28 October 2022 14:31 (two years ago) link
this might be my favourite thing they've ever done
― ufo, Saturday, 29 October 2022 14:15 (two years ago) link
Same, I think.
― Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 29 October 2022 15:51 (two years ago) link
certified slapper. both perfect for the current Michael mann moment and also its own irreducible thing
― Vapor waif (uptown churl), Saturday, 29 October 2022 16:53 (two years ago) link
can't wait to listen to this.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 29 October 2022 17:03 (two years ago) link
This is gorgeous. The last track is the standout at the moment. Sounds like We Are King. Junior Boys do quiet storm.
― Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Saturday, 29 October 2022 17:19 (two years ago) link
yeah, I'd put this on in the car and three tracks in I'm not sure the car is the right place for it on a sunny beautiful fall day. think I'm going to go switch to earphones and go for a walk with it.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 29 October 2022 17:22 (two years ago) link
All about side 2 for me. "Dum Audio" through title track just perfection.
― Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 29 October 2022 18:03 (two years ago) link
ok, better on headphones. I get what they're after but it's really not what I want right now. immediately put on the Cut Copy album from 2020 when this was over.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 29 October 2022 18:04 (two years ago) link
Freeze Melt is so underrated, imo. I just got shipping notice from Rough Trade so my Junior Boys listening session will still be a few days from now.
― brotherlovesdub, Saturday, 29 October 2022 18:41 (two years ago) link
amazing how totally immersed i am in this on first listen. beautiful sound sculpture, walking home on a foggy night at like 3 am when your senses are kind of brushing the world around you into blurs of paint and you're sort of not even able to put the words in your head into sequence, they're just fragments, loops of anxiety that as soon as you're aware of them they've already faded, blurred over themselves, incidentally this walk is longer than you remembered as time has been stretched at the quantum level and every block seems to be a repeat of the previous and it's like you're stuck in the liminal space between club and home forever
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Saturday, 29 October 2022 18:44 (two years ago) link
Beautifully put. This feels like an album whose rep will grow with time, one of those rare releases that will endure after the novelty of "cult band releases new album" wears off, but I've been very wrong about such things before
― Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 29 October 2022 20:38 (two years ago) link
this shit is indistinguishable from the “lo-fi beats to study to” playlist my kid falls asleep up every night
― na (NA), Saturday, 29 October 2022 23:46 (two years ago) link
asleep to
it’s not bad but I’m not sure what elevates it above that kind of intentional audio wallpaper
― na (NA), Saturday, 29 October 2022 23:53 (two years ago) link
ha ha you guys
my kid’s lo-fi beats podcast was queued up on spotify and started playing after the first junior boys song. that is what I’ve been listening to. and i thought i was being so acerbic up there but I’m just an idiot lol
i apologize
― na (NA), Saturday, 29 October 2022 23:56 (two years ago) link
hahaha
― maf you one two (maffew12), Sunday, 30 October 2022 00:27 (two years ago) link
This made for some weird Friday morning commute music and I look forward to playing it next time I can't sleep.
Just because I don't see her name on this thread and in case anyone needs to hear it, Junior Boys' own Jeremy Greenspan has worked on all 3 of Jessy Lanza's albums and they are beautiful. In googling his involvement just now (writing/producing/mixing) I found that they broke up after the second album and "established a new working relationship" for the third. Oddly the back cover of that one says "by Jessy Lanza and Jeremy Greenspan".
― maf you one two (maffew12), Sunday, 30 October 2022 00:42 (two years ago) link
let's have an embed. the single's video is the Toronto subway in 1986. a beaut. now i'm proper sleepy gnite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aic8dgxZls
― maf you one two (maffew12), Sunday, 30 October 2022 01:33 (two years ago) link
whatever happened to Johnny dark anyway? That Stereo Image or whatever album sucked. Miss his fucked up El-b by way of timberland beatz
― lets hear some blues on those synths (brimstead), Sunday, 30 October 2022 02:10 (two years ago) link
Lmao NA
― frogbs, Sunday, 30 October 2022 02:22 (two years ago) link
my favorite Junior Boys bit is the ending of "FM" where the drums get stripped away and it's just this little synth/vocal thing. so I'm really liking this so far
― frogbs, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 01:49 (two years ago) link
digging the new one a lot. i've been going back through the catalog and "begone dull care" feels slept on to me.
speaking of endings, I never appreciated how glorious the last 2 minutes of "Like a Child" were.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 01:57 (two years ago) link
before we’ve completely moved past it:lol NA
― mh, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 02:01 (two years ago) link
this is kinda like if Air really leaned into their Kraftwerk influences. or something. man that bit midway through the title track hits so hard given how quiet everything is. really nice and yeah it might be their best album but it feels weird to say that since it almost feels like this is a JB side project (but like, in a Dukes of Stratosfear type way)
― frogbs, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 02:18 (two years ago) link
― Western® with Bacon Flavor
Yeah, I went back to this one last week and enjoyed it a lot. It's not in the same league as the first two which are basically perfect, but it's a beautiful album.
― kitchen person, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 03:01 (two years ago) link
Begone Dull Care is the least-good album and is still great. What a band.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 04:42 (two years ago) link
i listened to begone dull care on repeat during a particularly vulnerable month of life so every song on on it is like a great cosmic unfolding to me
the least good junior boys album is so this is goodbye, controversial but true
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 3 November 2022 21:17 (two years ago) link
I have a friend who played the title track repeatedly in the car in 2006, to my dismay.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 November 2022 21:26 (two years ago) link
i'm aware this is kinda kneejerk but tbh this is beautifully produced and all, impressive synth work, but i just. cannot. get past the thin, reedy singing. nails on chalkboard for me. also kinda self serious. jessy lanza has a similar sound but is fun. not for me but i get the appeal.
― ꙮ (map), Thursday, 3 November 2022 21:32 (two years ago) link
similar sound partially due to Jeremy Greenspan being co-producer!
― mh, Thursday, 3 November 2022 22:32 (two years ago) link
― flamenco drop (BradNelson)
Woah, that's my favourite. The Equalizer, First Time and especially FM are some of their most beautiful melodies. It's the album that made me fall for them after struggling with Last Exit.
Big Black Coat is their only album that doesn't feel essential. Apart from the title track, the second half is kind of bland. Songs like Baby Don't Hurt Me and Love Is A Fire sound weirdly unfinished.
― kitchen person, Friday, 4 November 2022 01:07 (two years ago) link
IMO, It's All True = Last Exit > So This Is Goodbye > Waiting Game (though too early to tell) = Big Black Coat > Begone Dull Care
― Tim F, Friday, 4 November 2022 01:38 (two years ago) link
After listening to this a few dozen times I'm pretty sure it's my personal favorite in the catalog (even if it's not "the best").
It really does work best as a focused listen with no distractions or other stimulation (although something to fuck with your perception before hand doesn't hurt!). Extremely meditative, ruminative and calming.
I think it was Matt DC who once said something around the time of So This is Goodbye that always stuck with me. Paraphrasing here but it was about how you could follow each element as an ever-modulating thread and how no single note was the same. This has that on a whole new level with the 'peripheral', barely perceptible sounds your ears have to "reach" for. The result for me is after so many listens I still find myself able to hone in something I feel like I've never noticed before on every song. Spellbinding stuff!
― anza808, Saturday, 12 November 2022 23:45 (two years ago) link
Great post. I'm impatiently awaiting delivery of the LP release, which has predictably been pushed back a few weeks I guess. Saying I love this one as much as Last Exit feels like a kind of blasphemy, and I'm not ready to go there quite yet, but it's definitely close.
― Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 13 November 2022 01:23 (two years ago) link
Just took a cold, cloudy morning walk with this, very nice.I'll pick it up on CD if I see it. An imperfect vinyl pressing of such a quiet record would be annoying.
― maf you one two (maffew12), Sunday, 13 November 2022 14:21 (two years ago) link
listening to Last Exit for the first time in like a decade, god damn this sounds like it was made TODAY
― frogbs, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 03:14 (one year ago) link
absolutely
― hootenanny-soundtracking clusterfucks about milking cows (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 8 March 2023 04:09 (one year ago) link
Happy Birthday!
The first Junior Boys album “Last Exit” is celebrating its 20th birthday today!! I’m so thankful to have had a life in music since then, and am genuinely touched by those of you who still enjoy it all these years later.🖖 pic.twitter.com/LfU2X9Fsws— Junior Boys (@Juniorboys) June 7, 2024
― groovypanda, Friday, 7 June 2024 15:03 (seven months ago) link
Man, flashbacks.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 7 June 2024 15:13 (seven months ago) link