Tom Lehrer: Search and Destroy

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I was just reading about him here and thought I might investigate:
http://www.theavclub.com/avclub3619/avfeature_3619.html

Where should I start?

sorrycabin, Thursday, 18 September 2003 09:28 (twenty-two years ago)

"Poiiiiisoning piigeons in the parrrrk"

Find an album with that on and buy it.

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 18 September 2003 10:18 (twenty-two years ago)

when I went home last weekend my dad (who is otherwise into awful lite classical stuff esp. if it gets played at the Last Night of the Proms, and Enya) played me some of his stuff and I was like "I have never heard of him! why is he not a cult figure? This is brilliant!" But I don't know the answer to the question.

The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 18 September 2003 10:29 (twenty-two years ago)

why is he not a cult figure? This is brilliant!" But I don't know the answer to the question.

He is a cult figure! Everything he did was pretty much great, so start anywhere!

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 18 September 2003 10:36 (twenty-two years ago)

the element song.
my chemistry teacher threatened to the whole class that we should perform it.

jellybean (jellybean), Thursday, 18 September 2003 10:48 (twenty-two years ago)

"These are the only ones of which the news has come to Harvard,
And there may be many others but they haven't been discarvered."

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 18 September 2003 10:50 (twenty-two years ago)

"Harvard "/ "discovered" - raising the bar for great audacious rhymes of the 20th century. [edit - tsk got beaten to it...]

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 18 September 2003 10:51 (twenty-two years ago)

my mother became a lite classical fan later in life too for some reason, but the Tom Lehrer EP she had was very funny and i enjoyed it as a high school kid
after world war II stuff like lps were rare and prized, and this was what she listened to as a student -- this was college radio before the "radio" part got introduced i suppose -- "Elements" was popular music to learn the periodic table to, and "We Will All Go Together When We Go", reflections on the nuclear standoff, well that _was_ the politics of the time
this was in the '50s, so that humour was right on the edge, given that the american sense of "humor" was set maybe a touch less screwed up then than right now because of an enemy of the same size back in the USSR -- OK détente came later, but you had your shelter, you learnt to stop worrying, and you loved the bomb

george gosset (gegoss), Thursday, 18 September 2003 11:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Tom Lehrer: "Political satire became obsolete when Henry Kissinger was awarded the Nobel Prize."

This man is a hero

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 18 September 2003 13:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Indeed... my housemate always quotes that epithet [think you're s'posed to specify *Peace* Prize tho]...

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 18 September 2003 13:25 (twenty-two years ago)

i saw col powell say this when he was in darvos:
[i believe books by my predecessor henry kissinger most often turn up in second hand book shops in the section reserved for "Relationship Issues"]

(not that i'm a powell subscriber either, but i do find his career slightly weirdly intriguing)

george gosset (gegoss), Thursday, 18 September 2003 14:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Great audacious rhymes of the 20th century, part 2:

Whenever you attend a funeral
It is sad to think that sooner 'r l-
-ater those you love will do the same for you...

--"We Will All Go Together When We Go"

Marcel Post (Marcel Post), Thursday, 18 September 2003 15:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Absolutely *EVERYTHING* he did is positively ESSENTIAL, but start with An Evening Wasted with Tom Lehrer, maybe.

Didn't Rhino put out an authoritative box set a few years back?

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 18 September 2003 16:28 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah i'd say just get the box set; why waste time.

my personal favorites are his two self-released 10" eps. without the giveaway of the laugh track that comes with the live albums, they sound like quaint, silly parlor music, until you clue into the lyrics, at which point your head snaps.

the eps are compiled on this CD: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00000340N/102-1806050-8552167?v=glance

lyrics to "I Hold Your Hand In Mine" here:
http://members.aol.com/quentncree/lehrer/holdhand.htm


jl (Jon L), Thursday, 18 September 2003 17:18 (twenty-two years ago)

"songs by tom lehrer" (the 10" one) was one of the things i found in my grandparents record collection that became all-time favorites (along with the "2001" OST that they filled out by having an instrumental, musique concrete-only version of karl-birger blomdahl's "aniara" and some other weird old comedy records). nice to see that he's only getting crankier.

your null fame (yournullfame), Thursday, 18 September 2003 18:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Absolutely *EVERYTHING* he did is positively ESSENTIAL

Preach it. I just went through a Tom Lehrer rediscovery phase a few months back, I hadn't listened to him in several years. All of the stuff is pretty great. I can't think of anyone besides Spike Jones who's in his league as a satirist/musician/songwriter/performer. That Was the Year That Was is more topical than the other stuff, to the extent that you might occasionally have to do a little research to figure out what he's on about (not that having to research recent American history is a bad thing), but it's still hilarious more often than not. I love his Irish murder ballad. And the hunting song. Yeah, get it all.

JesseFox (JesseFox), Thursday, 18 September 2003 18:59 (twenty-two years ago)

best tom lehrer essay ever:

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0037/kogan.php

chuck, Thursday, 18 September 2003 22:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Best Lehrer couplet:
"'Once the rockets are up, who cares where they come down?
That's not MY department,' says Wernher von Braun."

There's also an unrecorded song by him that's a mnemonic for the central stations on Boston's Red Line, sung to an obvious tune--opinions vary on the exact wording, but it's something like:

H is for my alma mater, Harvard
C is for Central, next stop on the line
K is for the cozy Kendall station
C is for Charles, which overlooks the brine
P is for Park Street, mighty urban center
And W for Washington, you see
Put them all together, they spell HCKC-PW--
Which is just about what Boston means to me.

Douglas (Douglas), Friday, 19 September 2003 01:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Great audacious rhymes of the 20th century, part 2:
Whenever you attend a funeral
It is sad to think that sooner 'r l-
-ater those you love will do the same for you...

--"We Will All Go Together When We Go"

Part 3 follows immediately:
And you may have thought it tragic,
Not to mention other adjec
-tives, to think of all the weeping they will do...

Mention also needs to be made of the following verse, from "The Ballad of Hubert [Humphrey]":

"We must protest this treatment, Hubert"
Says each newspaper reader;
As someone once remarked to Schubert:
"Take us to ... your Lieder"

OleM (OleM), Friday, 19 September 2003 07:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Oops, correct title "Whatever Became of Hubert?"

OleM (OleM), Friday, 19 September 2003 07:05 (twenty-two years ago)

The original and greatest folktronician. ('The Wild West Is Where I Want To Be' bursts folk into the atomic age in the same way my 'Folktronic' songs cut and paste it against electronics.) Also splendidly perverse: 'The Sado-Masochism Tango' makes 'Venus in Furs' sound tame, and he apparently even wrote an adult version of his own kids' song 'Silent E'. Bootlegs, anyone?

Momus (Momus), Friday, 19 September 2003 08:46 (twenty-two years ago)

For me this is the key line in the excellent VV Kogan article Chuck Eddy links upthread:

...he's not as funny being a social satirist as he is being a suave and refined gross-out artist... Anyway, having used gross and refined as virtual synonyms...

Come to think of it, that's also exactly the formula I use in my Analog Baroque period material. If you invent a fastidious aristocratic dandy narrator, you're doomed to end up narrating muck. Because fastidiousness and much are obviously obsessed with each other, and mutually defining, just as the extraordinarily intelligent is drawn to the incredibly stupid.

Momus (Momus), Friday, 19 September 2003 08:54 (twenty-two years ago)

much muck

(he added fastidiously)

Momus (Momus), Friday, 19 September 2003 08:54 (twenty-two years ago)

We had a chat about Lehrer a while back:
Tom Lehrer

Gorgeously perverse music to play to the kids.

Daniel (dancity), Friday, 19 September 2003 21:45 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...
This stuff is absolutely amazing and hilarious and totally ahead of its time. Just brutally honest and totally OTM at every turn.

Ian John50n (orion), Sunday, 16 January 2005 20:49 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I was thinking about him the other day. That box set I must get...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 16 January 2005 20:55 (twenty years ago)

when i saw tom rapp in philly (years ago), he played "the old dope peddler." cool.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Sunday, 16 January 2005 21:05 (twenty years ago)

"Soon we'll be out,
Amidst the cold world's strife,
Soon we'll be sliding down
the razor blade of life.
But as we go our sordid, separate ways,
We shall ne'er forget thee,
O golden college days....

Hearts full of youth,
Hearts full of truth,
Six parts gin to one part vermouth"

Joe (Joe), Monday, 17 January 2005 00:35 (twenty years ago)

four months pass...
"I maintain that the reason it was not a commercial success.... you're way ahead of me"

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 16 June 2005 18:37 (twenty years ago)

Search all, destroy nothing. My early exposure to Ton Lehrer taught me that "novelty music" should never be equated to "musical ghetto".

Box set is worthwhile and indispensible. You really DO need all of the Tom Lehrer you can get, you just may not have realized it yet.

John Justen (johnjusten), Friday, 17 June 2005 03:26 (twenty years ago)

I think Ton Lehrer might have been a WWF wrestler. I am stupid.

John Justen (johnjusten), Friday, 17 June 2005 03:40 (twenty years ago)

You need his spoken introductions; they're often as winning as the songs: "gargling... practiced by a remote tribe in the Andes who passed it down from father to son. It was part of their oral tradition."

The Mad Puffin, Friday, 17 June 2005 12:25 (twenty years ago)

four years pass...

In honor of the season:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtZR3lJobjw

Christmas time is here, by golly,
Disapproval would be folly,
Deck the halls with hunks of holly,
Fill the cup and don't say "when."
Kill the turkeys, ducks and chickens,
Mix the punch, drag out the Dickens,
Even though the prospect sickens,
Brother, here we go again.

On Christmas Day you can't get sore,
Your fellow man you must adore,
There's time to rob him all the more
The other three hundred and sixty-four.

Relations, sparing no expense'll
Send some useless old utensil,
Or a matching pen and pencil.
"Just the thing I need! How nice!"
It doesn't matter how sincere it
Is, nor how heartfelt the spirit,
Sentiment will not endear it,
What's important is the price.

Hark the Herald Tribune sings,
Advertising wondrous things.
God rest ye merry, merchants,
May you make the Yuletide pay.
Angels we have heard on high
Tell us to go out and buy!

So let the raucous sleigh bells jingle,
Hail our dear old friend Kris Kringle,
Driving his reindeer across the sky.
Don't stand underneath when they fly by.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:05 (fifteen years ago)

Brilliant!
I was singing "That's Mathematics" to myself while waiting for the tram just this morning.

Fetchboy, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:13 (fifteen years ago)


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