Who's fulfilled the FOGHAT RULE?

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So? Which bands have actually fulfilled the FOGHAT RULE? Ahem..."Your 4th record must be DOUBLE LIVE!"

Recent examples include Spiritualized ("Royal Albert Hall"), and Sunny Day Real Estate. Cabaret Voltaire, too... (Was "Live at the Lyceum" a double one?)

Any more?

Brian MacDonald, Friday, 17 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Portishead, though that was a third, and probably a single.

Graham, Friday, 17 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Should have been "Frampton Comes Alive", but oddly enough that was his fifth record.

Mark, Friday, 17 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Well, as somebody (Dave Q., I think?) pointed out a few weeks ago, Chicago IV (aka Live at Carnegie Hall) was a 4 record set which had been preceded by three 2 record sets. So, on their terms, it fulfills the Foghat Rule, no?

Chicago, Saturday, 18 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

But you can call me Chi Chi.

Arthur, Saturday, 18 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Didnt Tori fill the rule.

anthony, Saturday, 18 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Oasis.

the pinefox, Saturday, 18 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

'Kiss Alive'!', of course.

dave q, Saturday, 18 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Sloan?

JM, Saturday, 18 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Brian, I'm not sure where you got the name "Foghat Rule" for this phenomenon. Foghat's first live album was 1977's Foghat Live, which was their seventh album, not their fourth. In addition, Foghat have never released a double album, live or otherwise.

However, I've definitely heard of this concept before, and multiple times at that, but every time I've heard it mentioned, it's been called "The Alive Rule," in reference to Kiss' 1974 Alive! album. (Kudos to dave q.) Alive! is indeed Kiss' fourth album, a double album, and a live[!] album, as well as being way more fuckinamazin than anything Foghat ever did, man!

matthew m., Sunday, 19 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Poor Foghat (korrekt pr. = Foffut, btw). Forgotten — never known — in the land of their birth, denied any part in the shaping of rock-cliché culture, doomed to tour forever in the backward reaches of memory, pointless, indentity-less, loveless, the Flying Dutchman of the High Seas of Bad Boogie...

The Ramones had a double live which seems to have fallen off all discogs I can find. But I think it was their fifth. Blue Öyster Cult's On Your Feet or On Your Knees is their fourth.

But is Kiss Alive! really the first double- live set? Surely not. Cream's double Wheels of Fire was some of it live, their third release. Mountain Live is their fourth, but I think just a single disc: Twin Peaks, their fifth (post split), is a double live. One track takes up an entire LP (or is it just an LP side)? Where are the Mountain fans, the true curators of the rock'n'roll flame, to correct me on this?

Yessongs is the sixth, but a triple! Maybe that counts!!

mark s, Sunday, 19 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

yeah yr right, "Nantucket Sleighride" on "Twin Peaks" keeps swimming with a harpoon in its ass for 2 WHOLE LP SIDES. Double live albums suck, I listen to "Kiss Alive" & "Double Live Gonzo" only for the between-songs raps which are fuckin great. Nuge's the superior rapper of the 2 but, hey "there's gotta be some ppl here tonight who like to drink TEQUILA!"
My fav dbl-live - "Braxton & Bailey Live At Wigmor", I think that was only their 1st recording together tho'.

duane, Sunday, 19 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

CURATORS OF THE INNER MOUNTAIN FLAME - couple months ago I saw the Terminals (legendary Christchurch garage art noise veterans) & they played a version of "Theme From An Imaginary Western"! Their last album was a live one, too. (only a single CD but.)

duane, Sunday, 19 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The Ramones alb. is "It's Alive", and is as excellent as it is tricky to find on vinyl (although now you can get the CD at CDNow, at least). A friend played it on his radio show tribute to Joey Ramone and we all damn near cried.

Dave M., Sunday, 19 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Matthew: It's a Yo La Tengo reference.

Jm, Sunday, 19 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Sloan's double live was 5th full length, joining Frampton.

zacko, Monday, 20 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

(gee! it's yet another question to which Phil's response is --)

Pink Floyd. Ummagumma was half live, half studio.

Phil, Monday, 20 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Well, Hawkwind's Space Ritual (1972 or 1973, depending who you ask) is at least a double - can't be bothered digging it out to check, sorry.

Ben Butler, Tuesday, 21 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)


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