is there any tighter song lyrically than natural born killaz!?!?

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its like a gangsta tapestry!!! and is there any better mc at rapping other mcs lines than dre, i swear the boy was born to be ghostwritten for

trife (simon_tr), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 05:13 (twenty-two years ago)

did the d.o.c. write most of dre's lyrics?

oops (Oops), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 05:20 (twenty-two years ago)

i dont mean tight like complex or complicated, its like this simple clockwork style dre and cube have, its almost a machine-like throwback to pre-90s old skool stuff where everything was all enunciated and understandable, except its too propulsive, too convincing, too REAL to be that

xpost with oops, i thought cube wrote the nbk verses though d.o.c. did niggaz4life and 100 miles and runnin... my favorite songs on chronic 2001 are where its REALLY obvious its jay (still d.r.e.) or em (forgot about dre) but dre gives it his own lil style too

trife (simon_tr), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 05:25 (twenty-two years ago)

actually i think cube did 100 miles and runnin and d.o.c. did niggaz4life and the chronic

trife (simon_tr), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 05:27 (twenty-two years ago)

You can put any GFK/Rae collab (like MGM) up there alongside it.

scottjames23 (worrysome-man), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 05:57 (twenty-two years ago)

god this video was provocative!!!

cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 06:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Yup, Mr Trife - it's one of the very best there is! The interplay of the two MCs, the great lyrics (I'm a pull a fuckin' Jeffrey Dahmer/ Now I'm suicidal/ Just like Nirvana), Dr Dre making the then en vogue horrorcore sound all his own and just the palpable excitement of having the two main driving forces of NWA back together again really all mounts up to one of the all time greats.

Dud, however, is just about every other song on the Murder Was The Case soundtrack from which it first came - doesn't it go straight from ...Killaz into a they-have-to-be-joking-right?-Oh-no-they're-not smooth soul cover of When Will There Be A Frickin' Harvest For The World? If my memory serves me right, that would be worthy of inclusion in that recent 'worst ever tail-off' on an album thread!

M Carty (mj_c), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 06:10 (twenty-two years ago)

ghost and rae are many wonderful things but they are not 'tight'

trife (simon_tr), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 06:22 (twenty-two years ago)

how so?

scottjames23 (worrysome-man), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 07:42 (twenty-two years ago)

What other rappers are ghostwritten for, apart from Eazy E?

Nick H, Wednesday, 24 September 2003 09:09 (twenty-two years ago)

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Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 09:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Trife, I doubt Cube would have done 100 Miles and Runnin' since that was the album after he left and they started doing their "benedict arnold" diss skits about him.....unless you know that he wrote it before he left and they still used it or something, which seems possible...

Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 14:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm glad to see this song getting the props it deserves. I hope Ice Cube stops making shitty movies so he can make great music again.

Jordan Harper, Wednesday, 24 September 2003 16:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Great song. I've long been haunted by the image of a natural born killah coming out of some dude's nutsack -- a virgin birth, I guess.

Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 16:15 (twenty-two years ago)


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