UMVD price "decreases"

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So after seeing the first wave of UMVD price changes hit my store, my cynical suspicions have become brutal realities. Before the change, the new Sting cd was 18.98/12.69 (retail/cost), and with a 15.99 first week sale price, we made a little over $3 per disc (in theory). Today's shipment had this pricing info:

12.98/10.79 (retail/cost)

This means, kind folks, that my string of retail membership -- since the summer of '91, give or take a few months -- should be over sometime in the near future, especially if the other majors jump on this particular bandwagon. As already discussed, the "decreases" will decrease the artist's royalties and the number of record stores over the next few years, but UMVD will still stand tall. I can't even be pissed off anymore...I've seen the writing on the wall, but now UMVD has pushed my face into it. Am I the only one feeling this way out there in the retail world?

Erick H (Erick H), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 18:18 (twenty-two years ago)

i hate to say, but the retail world, as we know it, is quickly becoming a thing of the past. there will always be room for collector's shops, but aint gonna be nearly as many trips to the local record shops for the youth of the future.

Felcher (Felcher), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 18:22 (twenty-two years ago)

my friend who has owned and operated the only record store that mattered in my city for the last 18 years will be packing it in after the holiday season.
I'm sad sad sad. This isn't just a record store but the social centre of my world. Like the barbershop of days gone by.

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 18:27 (twenty-two years ago)

what's UMVD?

one question, Wednesday, 1 October 2003 12:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Universal Music, Video and DVD? Something to do with Universal anyway.

Nick H, Wednesday, 1 October 2003 18:41 (twenty-two years ago)

the v stands for vivendi (at least i think, i know vivendi is their parent company)

Felcher (Felcher), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 19:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Universal Music & Venereal Diseases

Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 19:17 (twenty-two years ago)

it's easy to drop prices by six dollars when you're only covering a little under two of that yourself. not counting artist royalty deductions.

it's like an active plan to kill off independent record stores.

(Jon L), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 21:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Universal Music & Video Distribution...a disease of a different sort.

Erick H (Erick H), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 21:44 (twenty-two years ago)

To a degree, hopefully, this will be made up in volume; some people will be a lot more willing to buy a second disc at these prices. This depends on maintaining a huge stock though, which is harder for independent stores.

(Jon L), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 21:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Milton posted the following idea just ahead of me, but I'm going to say anyway . . . in more detail . . . and I agree that the inventory issues are significant . . . anyway, what I just wrote:

Erick, I know it's becoming virtually impossible to run an independent record store in today's climate, but I don't see how Universal's price cuts are contributing to it. Sure, the available margin per CD sold is less, but theoretically Universal is enabling you to sell CDs at a price that some research is showing to be the magic number for consumers. And from there, it becomes the 'make it up on volume' argument.

Assuming that the price is somehow significantly demand-stimulating, don't you have the potential to realize significantly more net profit (yes, less percentage gross profit, but with inventory effects, etc. . . )? Also, don't you generate more store traffic and all of the resultant postitive effects?

Universal should be vilified for many things, but taking the first step in leading CD prices to a fair level (I don't think they're there yet) is not one of them. I don't buy the argument.

southern lights (southern lights), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 21:54 (twenty-two years ago)

I've listened to UMVD's "market research" over and over, and while I agree that lowering prices across the board is a good thing -- and UMVD gets props for the basic concept -- what I hate is the fact that the retailer has to carry more of the price reduction burden than anyone else.

Say Bob Marley's "Legend" sells at $18.98 -- which it did, often -- and with our cost fixed, we make about $6. If it's lowered to $12.98, we make $2 on that disc. Now the figures are obvious, but I wonder if such a low price will make all the stoners run out and buy three times as many copies, which would take us back to where we started before the markdown? Sony has a "Pricebusters" program that puts the SRP at $13.98 with a cost of $9.86, which I think is more than fair. In fact, not to stump for Sony, but they've been cutting prices in this fashion for months now, with little or no press. "Room For Squares" has had the $13.98 price point for the whole summer, and it's still selling.

Again, I agree that cutting prices is good, so long as it's reasonable, and UMVD is not being reasonable.

Erick H (Erick H), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 22:06 (twenty-two years ago)

theoretically Universal is enabling you to sell CDs at a price that some research is showing to be the magic number for consumers

theoretically, perhaps. but in actuality, universal is just plain lying. using erick's actual record-store numbers, universal is charging stores two dollars less than it used to while telling consumers that stores will now be charging six dollars less they used to. what on earth, besides hubris, gives them the right to do that? PLUS they're taking a variety of incentives, such as co-op advertising, away from the stores, which makes it even less likely that stores will go along with the program.

lie #2 is that -- unless every reporter in the world misunderstood universal's initial announcement -- the company claimed that it's CDs would now cost consumers $9.99. if they're charging retailers a wholesale price of $10.79, as erick says they are, then that $9.99 price point is going to be awfully hard for a store to achieve.

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 1 October 2003 22:57 (twenty-two years ago)

The gigantic retailers get the wholesale price that lets them squeak by with a profit of 90 cents per unit. Smaller retailers have to buy from a one-stop, which is getting the same price as the gigantic retailers, & then has to mark it up to make ITS profit.

Result: ow.

Douglas (Douglas), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 23:21 (twenty-two years ago)

To add to Doug's point, our lil' store gets product from AEC One-Stop (who have been really good about this whole price-change thing, I must say), so that's why our price is what it is. If you're a large chain, you'll be able to get the product at a lower price by buying directly from UMVD...so long as you agree to allocate 30% of your inventory to UMVD product. Seems that UMVD cares about maintaining their huge market share and their high Billboard chart positions in order to look more attractive to a potential buyer, with the real costs to UMVD and the industry at large coming later. Again, I'm all for lower prices...but don't forget to read the fine print.

Erick H (Erick H), Thursday, 2 October 2003 00:50 (twenty-two years ago)


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