12.98/10.79 (retail/cost)
This means, kind folks, that my string of retail membership -- since the summer of '91, give or take a few months -- should be over sometime in the near future, especially if the other majors jump on this particular bandwagon. As already discussed, the "decreases" will decrease the artist's royalties and the number of record stores over the next few years, but UMVD will still stand tall. I can't even be pissed off anymore...I've seen the writing on the wall, but now UMVD has pushed my face into it. Am I the only one feeling this way out there in the retail world?
― Erick H (Erick H), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 18:18 (twenty-two years ago)
― Felcher (Felcher), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 18:22 (twenty-two years ago)
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 18:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― one question, Wednesday, 1 October 2003 12:12 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nick H, Wednesday, 1 October 2003 18:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― Felcher (Felcher), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 19:07 (twenty-two years ago)
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 19:17 (twenty-two years ago)
it's like an active plan to kill off independent record stores.
― (Jon L), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 21:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― Erick H (Erick H), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 21:44 (twenty-two years ago)
― (Jon L), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 21:53 (twenty-two years ago)
Erick, I know it's becoming virtually impossible to run an independent record store in today's climate, but I don't see how Universal's price cuts are contributing to it. Sure, the available margin per CD sold is less, but theoretically Universal is enabling you to sell CDs at a price that some research is showing to be the magic number for consumers. And from there, it becomes the 'make it up on volume' argument.
Assuming that the price is somehow significantly demand-stimulating, don't you have the potential to realize significantly more net profit (yes, less percentage gross profit, but with inventory effects, etc. . . )? Also, don't you generate more store traffic and all of the resultant postitive effects?
Universal should be vilified for many things, but taking the first step in leading CD prices to a fair level (I don't think they're there yet) is not one of them. I don't buy the argument.
― southern lights (southern lights), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 21:54 (twenty-two years ago)
Say Bob Marley's "Legend" sells at $18.98 -- which it did, often -- and with our cost fixed, we make about $6. If it's lowered to $12.98, we make $2 on that disc. Now the figures are obvious, but I wonder if such a low price will make all the stoners run out and buy three times as many copies, which would take us back to where we started before the markdown? Sony has a "Pricebusters" program that puts the SRP at $13.98 with a cost of $9.86, which I think is more than fair. In fact, not to stump for Sony, but they've been cutting prices in this fashion for months now, with little or no press. "Room For Squares" has had the $13.98 price point for the whole summer, and it's still selling.
Again, I agree that cutting prices is good, so long as it's reasonable, and UMVD is not being reasonable.
― Erick H (Erick H), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 22:06 (twenty-two years ago)
theoretically, perhaps. but in actuality, universal is just plain lying. using erick's actual record-store numbers, universal is charging stores two dollars less than it used to while telling consumers that stores will now be charging six dollars less they used to. what on earth, besides hubris, gives them the right to do that? PLUS they're taking a variety of incentives, such as co-op advertising, away from the stores, which makes it even less likely that stores will go along with the program.
lie #2 is that -- unless every reporter in the world misunderstood universal's initial announcement -- the company claimed that it's CDs would now cost consumers $9.99. if they're charging retailers a wholesale price of $10.79, as erick says they are, then that $9.99 price point is going to be awfully hard for a store to achieve.
― fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 1 October 2003 22:57 (twenty-two years ago)
Result: ow.
― Douglas (Douglas), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 23:21 (twenty-two years ago)
― Erick H (Erick H), Thursday, 2 October 2003 00:50 (twenty-two years ago)