The 'new' two track CD single - Pete or Dud?

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This sounds a lot like what France have...

Basically, the UK singles chart to be made up of £2.00 two track CD singles, and anything more than that (i.e. three tracks, less than 20 mins in total) is a Maxi CD, £4.00

Whadyer Reckon?

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 12:25 (twenty-one years ago)

These people... don't actually have a fucking clue, do they?

Right, so a TWO-track single at two pounds will sell more than a THREE-track single at £1.99? Yes? That is your fantastic idea?

It's... crap. They decided to limit the number of tracks for chart-eligible singles to three a few years ago, in some vague attempt at making things 'fairer' and lessening the pressure on people to put more stuff on their singles, and now it's dropping to two, and the existing format (which is three tracks but allowed to feature remixes of these, bit like they have now) is getting knocked up to four quid.

God, but there are some divs in this world.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 12:43 (twenty-one years ago)

the strokes' 'hard to explain' was a 2 track single
that cost u 3.99 in hmv two years ago. how exactly is this new ?

piscesboy, Wednesday, 1 October 2003 12:44 (twenty-one years ago)

It's regulating, I think - there is no current fixed price for singles, just the minimum price of 99p (for chart eligibility), so they decided to set it at two and four pounds. I'm guessing it must be record companies who set prices at present.

But this doesn't change the fact that a lot of three track singles (occasionally with four tracks or three tracks + video) are £1.99. I dunno if this is some attempt to combat the first week price reductions there are with most singles... but I just can't see how this will make any difference to anything, really.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 12:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Yup, this idea is dud dud dudley dud.
Don't want to sound too 'it were all green field round ere when I were lad' but the days when the single format was flexible enough to include forty minute songs by the Orb and album length selections of mixes by Underworld have to have been healthier than such a rigid imposition of formatting/ length restrictions.

M Carty (mj_c), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 12:55 (twenty-one years ago)

And still everythig will be multi-formatted to death anyway.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 12:57 (twenty-one years ago)

let the majors have it for their heavily marketed /airplay controlled / stocked in the high street multiples for commercial sales chart purposes.

I would much prefer independent labels - that's independent labels covering a wide range of music these days [including electro/ house/ breakbeat/ metal/ drum n bass/ experimental electronics/ avant jazz / post rock/ techno / industrial/ ambient/ leftfield hiphop etc etc - i.e most music that doesn't get daytime airplay] re-introduce more eps of say 30 minutes of music for around 5 or 7 pounds.

Artists could release an ep inbetween albums, rather than duplicate singles off an album - that are merely used as media promotional tools and don't offer value for money.

let the majors play their own game, and give independent labels a chance to reinvent/ repromote themselves that benefits artists/ listeners/ labels/ independent retailers and alternative media outlets.

DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 13:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Pete

Dadaismus (Dada), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 13:18 (twenty-one years ago)

dud. best cd single package recently was dj shadows recent ep of remixes - packaged with extra dvd including 2 vids .. all for a pocket money busting 6 quid. but when the packaging and extras were all exclusive then this was far far better than the basic 3 track pile-o-shite that normally gets put on the shelves. if the stuff is of worth then the fans will pay that little bit extra.
2 tracks. hardly worth cranking the disc up to speed.

mark e (mark e), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 14:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Is this an attempt to drive singles back to being singles?

"Paperpack Writer"/"Rain"

i.e. two tracks worth hearing rather than seven where you have to pick through?

e.g. Rapture single.
House Of Jealous Lovers shorter version / Alabama Sunshine - as £2 version

HOJL full / fulton mix / Cosmos remix / Killing (ends remix) - as £4

i.e. get the maxi if you care that much...

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 14:23 (twenty-one years ago)

let the majors play their own game, and give independent labels a chance to reinvent/ repromote themselves that benefits artists/ listeners/ labels/ independent retailers and alternative media outlets.

Problem is that you're fucked if you don't have easy access to getting independent label product. (Case in point, I currently don't.) Unlike a large city, where you can find smaller "mom and pop" shops to purchase from (Other Music and Bleecker Street Music in NYC comes to mind), you are stuck with doing Net purchases. Those carry their own charges for S & H, which will jack up the single's price anyway.

Nichole Graham (Nichole Graham), Wednesday, 1 October 2003 19:54 (twenty-one years ago)


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