Arto Lindsay Trio - Aggregates 1-26

I don't know about even imagining what no wave sounds bcz (like every genre or artists i like) i didn't know about until I read saw something on TV about it.

I don't hear any free jazz though there is some sax in the contortions which is played 'wrong' but i wonder how much is it to do with making music using the kind of approach in free jazz.

It sounds like a great disc but it probably costs like a billion zillion and I'm not palying that game (got a some no wave CDRs thanks to the good ppl of ILX).

Still at it, eh Coolio? What a sad little life you must lead.

As far as Lindsay's no wave skronks, I already paid too handsomely for the DNA CBGB's 1993 re-release on Avan. I picked up Mundo Civilizado not too long ago and really quite like it.

hello bob, sundar and alex...

Have you heard DNA sundar? bcz its quite similar to stuff on 'last live...', and yeah actually I found quite an improvisational feel to these tracks (and on the more no wave I heard since this thread started) and it could be THE arto disc; there are songs, straight and all, on this -- and maybe its a gd summation of what he's been up to. I wouldn't know as I don't have any of his bossa albs.

I really do love how there are songs and absurd nutty children type stuff, but that's no wave for you. Maybe marketed as a bunch of noize; its not the whole story tho'.

Ambitious Lovers had some amazing work, the balance going on between the love Arto had for Brazilian music (bossanova particularly - and the delicacy thereof) balanced against the NY noise stuff he helped develop and also loved was fascinating and beautiful to hear played on on record, Envy by Ambitious Lovers was jsut glorious in that sense.

Everey time I've seen him live he ha sblown me away whichever phase of his music he wants to play (and haing worked with him once he's also a really really nice guy)

Just an incredibly talented musician on every front.

come one 'dish it out' does not sound like status quo!

Were they ordinary or is it just that they couldn't quite, you know, play? have you got that mars CD that was reissued? also yeah its artsy and scenester but lots of UK punk was so how is that diff? yeah it can be overrated (like a lot of stuff from new york is) but some of this is fab.

bob do you like ut and y pants?

ok I've got this ut boot: I'll tape it gor you. do you have the noise fest cassette? There are lots of various things on there- and not all noise either.

"james chance= status quo w/ a sax. pub "the commitments" band"
"teenage jesus= george thorogood & the destroyers"
"Ut are kind of like proto-minutemen"

And none of it WANTED to "touch the Minutemen for punky-funky kicks." I can see the Minutemen being considered fairly great up through What Makes a Man Start Fires and maybe Double Nickels as a swan song or something, but let's please not overstate their alleged holiness.

And yeah I stand by the Ut comment, if you listen to the 'last live...' and the boot I have -- its not so obvious on their studio stuff tho' but they have a similar looseness.

It's kind of like that Ben Weasel Maximum Rock & Roll letter where he says Husker Du are like REO Speedwagon.

can't believe he doesn't like y pants tho'. or ut!

Arto Linday: what the Golden Palominos needed more of

Where's Melvin Gibbs these days? And isn't Dougie Bowne, like, paralyzed or something?

Also, it's nice to hear from another Ambitious Lovers fan. Those first two albums are among my favorite records from the '80s, and I still listen to them plenty.