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May have been discussed already (as M Matos prepares his own) but some of these books are out :

http://www.continuumbooks.com/series_details.cgi?sid=311


has anyone actually read one yet?

Matt Sab (Matt Sab), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)

hmm,i had heard reference to matos' sign o' the times book,but i didn't realise it was part of a series.
a few of the other books look interesting,are any of them any good?
also,are these books only published in america?

robin (robin), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 14:57 (twenty-one years ago)

oh,my mistake,it says on the site they'll be out in the rest of the world after april 2004

robin (robin), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 14:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not an impartial observer, but I got the first six and they look marvelous! Like little versions of the old Penguin series--they're pocket-sized and short, perfect for reading on trips or whatever. I've polished off the ones on Village Green Preservation Society (which I still haven't heard), Harvest, and Dusty in Memphis so far; the latter is my favorite. also, I'm not the only ILxor who has one of these--I'm especially looking fwd to Douglas Wolk's book on James Brown's Live at the Apollo, and though I'm sure Chris Ott would rather not be thought of as an ILxor, he's got one on Joy Division's Unknown Pleasures also coming.

M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 15:15 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah i would be curious to read the dusty one,the mbv one,and the james brown one,as well as your own prince one

robin (robin), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 15:47 (twenty-one years ago)

And the ABBA one!!!

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I just kinda stumbled over these yesterday...picked up Joe Pernice's Meat is Murder...so far it's pretty neat....a little sappy and nostalgic.....but hey it's Meat is Murder...so it's perfect.


I like his writing...I love the album.

ddb, Tuesday, 7 October 2003 16:03 (twenty-one years ago)

That top link leads to a piece on the series which contains the line (A task which can be, as Elvis Costello famously observed, as tricky as dancing about architecture.)


Wasn't it Zappa who said this?

scottjames23 (worrysome-man), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 19:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Wasn't it Zappa who said this?

i think it's pretty well accepted that (a) both frank and elvis said this, (b) but various others (charles mingus, for example) said it way before they did, and (c) trying to figure out who exactly thought of it first is kind of like, ya know, dancing about architecture.

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 7 October 2003 19:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Wasn't Zappa, I think. And wasn't Laurie Anderson, either...
A multitude of musicians have gladly (or wryly) quoted it again and again, but ...Damn, I wish I remembered which ish. of Ver Vire it was exactly where I saw the original source named a coupla years ago.

Hey, when will Douglas Wolk's book be out then?

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 19:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Um... I have to FINISH it first. But I believe I'm in the third batch.

Right now I'm writing a sequence about a bear that climbed a fence in Duluth right about the time James Brown was singing "I Don't Mind" and thereby came yay-close to starting World War III.

I can't WAIT to read Matos on Prince and Elisabeth Vincentelli on ABBA.

Douglas (Douglas), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 20:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Right now I'm writing a sequence about a bear that climbed a fence in Duluth right about the time James Brown was singing "I Don't Mind" and thereby came yay-close to starting World War III.

:::drool:::

M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 21:20 (twenty-one years ago)

also, you're not missing much on my end, believe me

M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 21:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Matos, are they going to revise the bio for you that's on the site? It doesn't mention your current position and says you still live in NYC.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 21:46 (twenty-one years ago)

fuck, you're right. thanks!

M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 7 October 2003 21:53 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...
David Barker, who edits the series, has started up a blog about it:

http://33third.blogspot.com/

Enjoy!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 9 April 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)

Is anyone going to write about Stevie Wonder anytime soon?

Eric von H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 9 April 2005 14:00 (twenty years ago)

has anyone read the 33 1/3 Forever Changes book? I thought it was great--an album I've listened to a million times, but the author (can't recall his name at the moment) made me hear it in an entirely new way. There were moments where I thought he might be stretching things a bit too far--like when he began a long discussion of gnosticism--but in the end he pulled it all together rather astoundingly. anyway, it's the best one of these books I've read thus far.

tylerw, Saturday, 9 April 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)

Cool..anything which might potentially make me like that album again sounds good..

Masked Gazza, Saturday, 9 April 2005 14:14 (twenty years ago)

I bought four at once and Forever Changes is the last one I have left to read. I lost a bit of steam after reading the Village Green Preservation Society book which I thought was pretty dull. I couldn't decide whether it was the writing or just the fact that the Kinks themselves are pretty boring. I enjoyed the Piper at the Gates of Dawn book quite a bit though. I didn't think there would be anything new to say about Barrett/Floyd but he found a way to make it interesting. Anyway, thanks for reminding me that I need to pull out the Forever Changes book now.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Saturday, 9 April 2005 15:04 (twenty years ago)

how many of these books talk about the music in detail and aren't just sort of glossed "making of" things?

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Saturday, 9 April 2005 15:16 (twenty years ago)

ok i totally want to check out franklin bruno's book.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Saturday, 9 April 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

I've only read Matos' book, but it certainly talks about the music in detail.

I'll probably read the Entroducing book.

Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 9 April 2005 16:28 (twenty years ago)

None of the three I've read (Piper, Village Green, VU) go very far beyond the realm of a making-of or a band bio that's focused on a specific period. That's not to say that they weren't worthwhile or entertaining to read if you're a fan of the album in question.

I also got the feeling (primarily from the VU book) that the writers were getting their one and only chance to write about a particular passion and as a result I felt like there was this barely constrained urge to branch out beyond the scope of the single album in question. Maybe my personal expectations for this type of book were off base but I think that for example the artist's personal life should barely if at all come into play.

I might be more interested in reading one by a writer who had already done a full biography of the artist in question so that the standard gossipy stuff and most common observations would already be out of the way. Maybe then the author would be forced to focus more deeply on the music in abstract terms and not worry about some of the more mundane details. But these criticisms are all very nitpicky and I'm sure I'll be ordering another batch soon.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Sunday, 10 April 2005 00:45 (twenty years ago)

ok i totally want to check out franklin bruno's book.

The Armed Forces one? That's definitely on the top of my list. I'm optimistic because it's a pretty interesting choice out of the early Costello albums so I'm guessing he'll have something unique to say. A lot of the other picks are very classic-rock-y but maybe once those are out of the way the series will get more interesting.

walter kranz (walterkranz), Sunday, 10 April 2005 00:52 (twenty years ago)

Michaelangelo, I was just telling my mom your SOTT story about imitating the 'Dirty Mind' cover with your Spiderman Underoos, etc. She got a *huge* hoot out of it. (She's 65.)

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Sunday, 10 April 2005 03:07 (twenty years ago)

I'm very very psyched to read Franklin's book too.

Douglas (Douglas), Sunday, 10 April 2005 06:53 (twenty years ago)

The Endtroducing one looks great. I love this:

Just out of curiosity, could you tell me what you think is the difference between turntablism and scratching?

Turntablism is the description of scratching that’s supposed to make people who don’t listen to hip-hop, sit up and go “Hmm, maybe it is real music.” Scratching, to me, is just what it is. Turntablism has this virtuosic aspect to it, and to me, that’s when things start to turn jazzy. And I’m not a huge fan of when things turn jazzy. Because when I think of jazzy, I think of Wynton Marsalis.

Hurting (Hurting), Sunday, 10 April 2005 08:28 (twenty years ago)

i enjoyed Matos's book. Does pretty much everything: talks about each track in detail, the album in the context of the rest of Prince's discog, and relates it to his personal experiences at the time of release and thereafter. Couldn't HAVE wished for much more.

i saw Douglas's book in the shop the other day. Looked a bit dauntingly 'conceptual' on a quick flip through, what with all the headings and shit. But I'm sure it's a good read and i'll probably buy it. Anybody else read this?

zebedee (zebedee), Sunday, 10 April 2005 13:54 (twenty years ago)

Just to clarify, what I really liked is not so much the Wynton Marsalis diss. What's cool is that he actually treats "mak(ing) people who don't listen to hip-hop sit up and go 'Hmm, maybe it is real music.'" as a negative.

Hurting (Hurting), Sunday, 10 April 2005 16:47 (twenty years ago)

Z: I did read it and it is good. A Poe short story, too: you can down it in one sitting.

I should really put together a proposal for "Return to the 36 Chambers".

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Sunday, 10 April 2005 16:49 (twenty years ago)

Did anyone hear anything about the Loveless book?

Orange, Sunday, 10 April 2005 16:56 (twenty years ago)

three months pass...
Don't know about the Loveless book, but all of these, if you were hoping, ain't happening:

Songs in the Key of Life, by Dave Hesmondhalgh
Parallel Lines, by Elisabeth Vincentelli
Three Feet High and Rising, by Brian Coleman
Tusk, by Stephin Merritt
Computer Love, by Michael Bracewell
Marquee Moon, by David Keenan
Master of Puppets, by Tom Bissell
The Basement Tapes, by Damon Krukowski

The editor/creator of the series, David Barker runs a blog about the series. Email him directly if you like:

http://33third.blogspot.com/

I finally read one of these. I think I picked a great place to start, Douglas Wolk's Live at the Apollo. It was really really good.

Matt Sab (Matt Sab), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

Greatly enjoyed Meat Is Murder, the Joy Division one was more of a factual view but still very interesting, the Dusty one didn't work for me.

zaxxon25 (zaxxon25), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

God, I cannot wait for the In the Aeroplane over the Sea book. The excerpt and things I've read by the author seem like she really gets it spot on.

PB, Wednesday, 27 July 2005 15:32 (nineteen years ago)

why aren't those ones happening?

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 15:34 (nineteen years ago)

i just bought the James Brown too. not started it yet.

also got the ABBA one, which i devoured in a day. twas OK, wish Ms Vincentelli had spent fewer sentences justifying (or having to justify) the book's very existence. also i'm not sure she cracked the problem of how to order the narrative, though I accept it's a toughie.

zebedee (zebedee), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 15:35 (nineteen years ago)

according to the blog:

These are a few of the projects that - for various and sometimes complicated reasons - never made it to fruition. Some came very close to happening, others less so; but they all would have been fun.

Matt Sab (Matt Sab), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 16:03 (nineteen years ago)

Don't know about the Loveless book, but all of these, if you were hoping, ain't happening:

Songs in the Key of Life, by Dave Hesmondhalgh

Why not?

Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

For those ...

Matos' Sign O'The Times book's prince has been slashed (on Amazon at least) to $4.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0826415474/qid=1122928710/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/002-2999298-5726417?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

Matt Sab (Matt Sab), Monday, 1 August 2005 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

five months pass...
I'm sorry to tell you that we've chosen not to sign up your proposal for the 33 1/3 series.

This has been a difficult process: we received dozens of very strong proposals from dozens of very good writers and it's a shame to have to turn down so many of you.

If you're interested, the 33 1/3 books we eventually decided to sign up are:

"If You're Feeling Sinister" by Scott Plagenhoef

"Aja" by Don Breithaupt

"Shoot Out the Lights" by Hayden Childs

"Pretty Hate Machine" by Daphne Carr

"Use Your Illusion" by Eric Weisbard

"Horses" by Phil Shaw

"Double Nickels on the Dime" by Mike Fournier

"Pink Moon" by Amanda Petrusich

"People's Instinctive Travels and the Paths of Rhythm" by Shawn Taylor

"Achtung Baby" by Stephen Catanzarite

"20 Jazz Funk Greats" by Drew Daniel

"The Dreaming" by Ann Powers

"Rid of Me" by Kate Schatz

"Another Green World" by Geeta Dayal

"Songs in the Key of Life" by Zeth Lundy

"Trout Mask Replica" by Kevin Courrier

"Let's Talk About Love" by Carl Wilson

"Lucinda Williams" by Anders Smith Lindall

"69 Love Songs" by LD Beghtol

“Marquee Moon” by Peter Blauner

“Swordfishtrombones” by David Smay

that's so taylrr (ken taylrr), Thursday, 26 January 2006 18:36 (nineteen years ago)

Congrats to Drew and Geeta! (Are there other ILMers on this list I don't know?)

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:38 (nineteen years ago)

ann powers is actually esteban buttez

cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:41 (nineteen years ago)

Scott P. has been around since the Greenspun days.

Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 26 January 2006 20:47 (nineteen years ago)

i wish you could get these easily in book stores (AND NOT JUST IN THE AEROPLANE MURMUR THE SEA LIKE ROUND HERE).

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 26 January 2006 21:41 (nineteen years ago)

hey everybody read the frank bruno one and then try to make yrs like him cuz it is AWESOME

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 26 January 2006 21:42 (nineteen years ago)

i have only read 2

cancer prone fat guy (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 26 January 2006 21:42 (nineteen years ago)

the franklin bruno one is not only awesome, it is superhuman. one of my fave pieces of rock criticism ever.

fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 26 January 2006 22:24 (nineteen years ago)

yeah same here

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 26 January 2006 22:26 (nineteen years ago)

I loved that review he wrote of that indie-boy novel, so I guess I gotta get this book.

Redd Harvest (Ken L), Thursday, 26 January 2006 22:30 (nineteen years ago)

I'm definitely gonna read the Land of Rape and Honey one (the author is a friend), and I'm intrigued by the idea of books on Café Tacvba and the Isley Brothers.

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 29 January 2023 01:32 (two years ago)

Do they ever just take a regular ass person or does everyone with an accepted entry have some kind of journalistic experience?

zacata, Sunday, 29 January 2023 03:26 (two years ago)

Aside from having a blog, I was a regular ass person. My 33 1/3 book was the one and only time I ever got paid to write about music.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Sunday, 29 January 2023 04:39 (two years ago)

xp didn't hear anything. i assume they get a lot of proposals, and looking back i could have made mine more focused and less academic.

i am a regular ass person, though, so it's good to hear that they've taken from others who aren't music critics. i have written professionally about art and architecture but not music.

treeship., Sunday, 29 January 2023 17:13 (two years ago)

two months pass...

Just finished the Achtung Baby book, and...yeesh. Nothing wrong with having your own take on what songs mean, and obviously religion does inform a lot of Bono's lyrics, but this was basically a stealth religious tract! I would have said the writer had a very strained interpretation of the lyrics to fit his beliefs, but in honesty, from about the halfway point he barely even bothers to refer to the actual songs in any way, and instead goes on and on about this hypothetical man and woman that the entire album is supposedly about.

I bought the 33.33s of 69 Love Songs, Another Green World and Aeroplane Over the Sea on the same shopping trip, and hope they're better (how could they not be?...)

Duane Barry, Sunday, 16 April 2023 18:29 (two years ago)

I remember enjoying the latter two a whole lot

change display name (Jordan), Sunday, 16 April 2023 18:31 (two years ago)

Just discovered that there is a Brazilian equivalent, in Portuguese of course.

The Titus Andromedon Strain (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 16 April 2023 19:50 (two years ago)

two months pass...

treeship. at 5:13 29 Jan 23

xp didn't hear anything. i assume they get a lot of proposals, and looking back i could have made mine more focused and less academic.

i am a regular ass person, though, so it's good to hear that they've taken from others who aren't music critics. i have written professionally about art and architecture but not music.
I mean it would be nice to just get a form email back, "sorry we didn't choose your submission" or something, after you put in a week's work on it. Still, better than applying for a job at a university, I suppose.

anyway, new genres submissions open, have at it.

https://333sound.com/genre-a-33-1-3-series-open-for-submissions/

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 16 June 2023 14:53 (two years ago)

Please, someone pitch sellout jazz-funk

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Friday, 16 June 2023 15:42 (two years ago)

or microhouse

MaresNest, Friday, 16 June 2023 15:46 (two years ago)

Damn, I always think about pitching one for New Orleans brass band, and the genre format would be much better than a single album (at least for wider appeal). But I'm sure it would take over my life, and pinning down all the musicians for interviews would be an exhausting process.

Random Restaurateur (Jordan), Friday, 16 June 2023 17:35 (two years ago)

The one about Depeche Mode 101 looks promising..

Table of Contents
1. Live or Memorex?
2. Is “Music” Electric?
3. It's Hip, it's Totally Hip, It's the Only Thing Happening
4. Dreamboats and Market Shares
5. Uneasy Listening
6. America, Man
7. “KROQ's Woodstock”
8. No Mode, No Nirvana: 101 and its Legacy

https://www.bloomsbury.com/uk/depeche-modes-101-9781501390326/

piscesx, Sunday, 18 June 2023 18:42 (two years ago)

Missed a trick by not having it as #101 in the series.

Dan Worsley, Sunday, 18 June 2023 18:50 (two years ago)

That wouldn't bode well for a book about Yes' 90125

Hideous Lump, Sunday, 18 June 2023 20:06 (two years ago)

I started to put together a genre pitch back in the initial round but then realized I’d much rather just write about one album.

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 18 June 2023 20:09 (two years ago)

other than an ilxor writing about dolly parton i don't recognize the names of anyone writing new books. (not that i ever read them. i never see them anywhere anymore! i think i would have to live in a city to see them...or be an internet shopper...)

scott seward, Sunday, 18 June 2023 21:20 (two years ago)

RC, you should do a wolf eyes book. has anyone done one? or a noise book!

scott seward, Sunday, 18 June 2023 21:21 (two years ago)

Who knows, man? Who knows…

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Sunday, 18 June 2023 21:53 (two years ago)

I would read Jordan on New Orleans brass !

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 20 June 2023 18:29 (two years ago)

Pulp’s This is Hardcore coming next year by Jane Savidge.

https://www.bloomsbury.com/uk/pulps-this-is-hardcore-9798765106952/

piscesx, Sunday, 2 July 2023 04:11 (one year ago)

Nice.

Looking For Mr. Goodreads (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 2 July 2023 18:47 (one year ago)

The Dead C’s Clyma est mort

wow!

Reeves Gabrels' Funko Pop (majorairbro), Tuesday, 4 July 2023 08:35 (one year ago)

ooh nice

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Tuesday, 4 July 2023 16:22 (one year ago)

!

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 4 July 2023 16:36 (one year ago)

Just a warning--the Dead C's one is in 33 1/3 Oceania which I learned, on buying two of the books in that series yesterday, is a completely different size to the rest of the books. This is aesthetically maddening.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F0K_qQoaIAEfvmw?format=jpg&name=large

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Tuesday, 4 July 2023 23:11 (one year ago)

This one just came in at the library. Looks interesting:

https://333sound.com/vopli-vidopliassovas-tantsi-excerpt/

Alito Bit of Soap (President Keyes), Monday, 17 July 2023 18:18 (one year ago)

oh, excellent. one of the best post soviet bands and one of the best post soviet albums. i still remember seeing the Tantsi video when it was first broadcast.

scanner darkly, Monday, 17 July 2023 20:59 (one year ago)

three weeks pass...

Have to say the upcoming Erotica book sounds fascinating

Everyone wanted Madonna’s Erotica to be scandalous, even pornographic. In the midst of the early 1990s culture wars, conservatives wanted it to be proof of the decline of family values. The target of conservative loathing, gay men reeling from the AIDS epidemic wanted it to be a celebration of a sexual culture that had rapidly slipped away. And of course Madonna herself, who released the album at the same time as her actually pornographic coffee-book table simply titled Sex, knew sex sells. But Erotica is more sentimental than sexual. At a time when sex was deadly, this sentimentality was not kitsch, but a way of sustaining a sexual culture. In this book, Michael Dango shows how Erotica marks an inflection point in multiple narratives. It is the album in which Madonna began more directly addressing her gay audience, at the same time that gay politics was transitioning from a sexual liberation framework to a rights-based framework that would ultimately culminate in same-sex marriage. To tell this story, Dango draws on his own experiences positioned between two generations of gay people―between a generation decimated by AIDS and a generation that grew up assuming they would be able to get married―as well as works of queer theory, which emerged in the academy at the same time as Madonna emerged on the music scene.

https://www.roughtrade.com/gb/product/michael-dango/madonnas-erotica-33-13

piscesx, Sunday, 13 August 2023 19:59 (one year ago)

I expect nothing less than one of this series’ finest moments from that entry

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Sunday, 13 August 2023 20:53 (one year ago)

one month passes...

I sometimes daydream about which album I would write about were I to ever send in a proposal.
And I think I've worked out that it would have to be Confield by Autechre.
Partly because I've already written a good 3 or 4 articles about them in the past and I'm a big nerd; but specifically this album because while it is likely their most well-recognised album, it's also the one I've had most trouble getting to grips with. And it's precisely this "thorniness", with 22 years' hindsight, that I'd like to make peace with. Whereas I could probably wax lyrical about LP5 or Sign or Oversteps, it's Confield that I think would yield the most interesting writing

...eh you get the gist of it (dog latin), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 19:51 (one year ago)

I would love to read that.

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 22:21 (one year ago)

I daydream about writing one on You and Your Sister by the Vulgar Boatmen.

Lily Dale, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 23:43 (one year ago)

It looks like two really great ones are out this month and next month; Erotica and Ingenue, good timing too considering they’re both from the same year.

piscesx, Wednesday, 4 October 2023 00:26 (one year ago)

four months pass...

Open call for Proposals for 2024, deadline is March 29th.

https://333sound.com/33-1-3-open-call-for-proposals-2024/

piscesx, Thursday, 8 February 2024 14:16 (one year ago)

five months pass...

Saw some grumbling on Facebook that 33 1/3 books are avoiding reggae and dancehall and have turned down pitches in those genres

curmudgeon, Friday, 19 July 2024 20:09 (eleven months ago)

Here is link to proposals they just accepted and will be published in 2026

https://333sound.com/announcing-the-newest-33-1-3s-2024/

curmudgeon, Friday, 19 July 2024 20:19 (eleven months ago)

Moss Icon’s Lyburnum Wits End Liberation Fly

I think this is the first title in this series where I have absolutely no idea who, what or why. Don't tell me, let the knowledge slowly seep into my brain by osmosis.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 19 July 2024 20:33 (eleven months ago)

Guessing I should give up on the idea that Agata Pyzik's Tin Drum book from 2015's list will ever come. :(
Possibly torpedoed due to the two fairly comprehensive Japan books that came out right after? Ho hum.

mr.raffles, Friday, 19 July 2024 20:55 (eleven months ago)

ngl but a few of these records seem like grasping at straws to me but what do i know

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 20 July 2024 01:38 (eleven months ago)

I think a compelling book could be written about any of them, but overall the series is so patchy

encino morricone (majorairbro), Saturday, 20 July 2024 04:21 (eleven months ago)

"I think this is the first title in this series where I have absolutely no idea who, what or why. Don't tell me, let the knowledge slowly seep into my brain by osmosis."

its a really good album!

scott seward, Saturday, 20 July 2024 05:02 (eleven months ago)

Except for Woodie Guthrie and maybe Cher the list is just decent enough Us and Uk rock and r& b but with no dancehall, reggae, afrobeats/ afropop, blues, jazz , South Asian or Latino sounds .

curmudgeon, Saturday, 20 July 2024 05:19 (eleven months ago)

Gorillaz’ Plastic Beach by Ihor Junyk
Interpol’s Antics by Gabriel T. Saxton-Ruiz

lol ok

Murgatroid, Saturday, 20 July 2024 05:58 (eleven months ago)

I guess I’d be interested to hear about the guests on Plastic Beach - DLS, Reed, Ryder, Smith all used very well I think.

assert (matttkkkk), Saturday, 20 July 2024 06:57 (eleven months ago)

Incoming asshole post: imagine reading a whole book on a gorillAz album let alone writing one

brimstead, Saturday, 20 July 2024 14:59 (eleven months ago)

I swear I try not to be a snob but man some people are really missing out on… how good and wonderful music can be

brimstead, Saturday, 20 July 2024 15:02 (eleven months ago)

moss icon album is patient zero the biggest subgenre of american hardcore. will be happy that book exists if it comes out

ivy., Saturday, 20 July 2024 15:05 (eleven months ago)

its a really good album!

OK, but this is the same publisher that turned down Carl Wilson's proposal on an album as foundational as Dub Housing because it was too obscure. But maybe Moss Icon are a bigger deal than Pere Ubu ever were, I honestly don't know.

Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 20 July 2024 15:43 (eleven months ago)

Chris Richards of the Washington Post has been doing deep dives into mid-80s and later onward hardcore and post-hardcore and wrote a big 2023 article about Annapolis hardcore band the Hated. The article briefly mentions late 80s /early 90s Moss Icon. There seems to be a bit of a renewed interest in that era, but yea is it bigger than that into Pere Ubu Dub Housing

curmudgeon, Saturday, 20 July 2024 16:04 (eleven months ago)

The Hated were so great, got to see them twice

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Saturday, 20 July 2024 16:29 (eleven months ago)


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