that fountains of wayne video really is amongst the worst of all time

Look, call the video and single a blatant sell-out if you want, because that's what it pretty much is. But don't dis the entirety of Fountains of Wayne's catalog, because then you'll look like you don't know what you're talking about, and nobody wants that.

also, stacy's mom /= mrs. robinson. stacy's mom is the very hot mom of a 13-year-old, and could very well actually be 30something. mrs. robinson is the very jaded and depressed mom of a college graduate.

Well, I really dislike that song because it’s a retro indie-boy arrested development/unrequited love fantasy about a MILF with annoying 'clever' 'funny ha-ha' lyric and an approachable but uninteresting melody. I really do think it’s dreadful, a good argument for that ‘shouldn’t you grow out of indie at 20’ thread perhaps? ;)

But seriously, there’s something that strikes me as a bit pathetic and emotionally stunted about this sort of juvenalia. Neither lusting after a women near your age through the eyes of a boy nor approaching the teen experience with the advantages of hindsight and maturity are at all interesting to me.

It's "supermodel" Rachel Hunter, by the way.

I really don't think it's that bad. It's a helluva lot less offensive than, say, the video for "Get Low" by Lil Jonn & the East Side Boyz.

I am dissing this video, though. You don't have to take any of this [lame - I'm the first to admit it] "dis" seriously, of course, if this is one of your fav bands you heart or anything. It's just that this video/song annoys me to no end; even without the video the lyrics are totally witless and annoying, the filtered vocals thru the "got it going on" part - argh! Maybe that's standard FoW songwriting? I wouldn't know.

So many hip-hop videos always get criticized for being too crass but no one could ever say that about a FoW video without seeming out of place (because they make so few?) for some reason, and while that's not my major issue with it, I do find it a smarmy in a creepy sort of way. The Ridgemont High allusion cannot forgive all. The stupid grin on the boy's face annoys me. The opening montage of the feet at the bus stop annoys me. The impromptu-yet-utterly-predictable lap-dance sequence annoys me. The pony tail on the masseuse really, really annoys me. The fact that if this was actual 6th grade life, Stacy would never be inviting the boy over to frolic around in her pool while dressed in a skimy bathing suit to show off her developmentalism annoys me. The fact that no one invited me over their pool in 6th grade to show off their developmentalism annoys me. The entire concept of this video is just...WRONG! Of course, if I was ten years younger I might think differently, but even then I would ask myself "why are these silly band members wearing those SUITS?" etc.

And it has the sleazy feeling to it, really cheap. At certain times I got the mom confused with the daughter!

i'm pretty sure FoW haven't worked with Ocasek and that it's just a stylistic nod. which, combined with that new Strokes single, there could be some kind of Cars revival going on.

you can't be serious.

In any event, they're barely worth this much discussion.

also had they gotten an older kid (and a girl older than 13) for the video, mtv wouldn't play it, cos they know paedophilia sells.

Um, Anne Bancroft was only 35 when she filmed The Graduate.

I find the Linkin Park videos positively insufferable.

I'm surprised only because: doesn't pretty much every review of FoW begin by noting that Schlesinger wrote "That Thing You Do"? Because we all agree that that was the best song ever written, and it gives us notice to sit up and pay attention to a true genius.

-- Anthony Miccio (anthonymicci...), October 9th, 2003.
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I haven't seen the new LP video, so I don't know enough of what you speak to know for sure if and where there's a word missing in that sentence, but I really want to see it now just to find out what "teenage girl action pants" means.

Well, I'm not offended by it, but if one was looking to be offended by something (as it seems Vic is), the entirely prurient objectification of women that runs rampant throughout pretty much the entire clip of "Get Low" is hard to deny, to say nothing of the lyrics...

Brrr dum dum dum---dum da da da da dum
Brrr dum dum dum---dum da da da da dum
Brrr dum dum dum---dum da da da da dum
Brrr dum dum dum---dum da da da da dum

3,6,9 standing real fine move it to you suck it to me one mo time
Get low, Get low, Get Low, Get Low
To the window, to the wall, (to dat wall)
To the sweat drop down my balls (MY BALLS)
To all you bitches crawl (crawl)
To all skee skee motherfucker (motherfucker!) all skee skee got dam (Got dam)
To all skee skee motherfucker (motherfucker!) all skee skee got dam (Got dam)

Shortie crunk so fresh so clean
can she fuck that question been harassing me in the mind
this bitch is fine
I done came to the club about 50th 11 times
now can I play with yo panty line
the club owner said I need to calm down
security guard go to sweating me now
We got drunk then a motherfucker threaten me now

She getting crunk in the club I mine she work it
Then I like to see the female twerking
taking the clothes off BUCKEY naked
ATL. Hoe don't disrespect it
Pa pop yo pussy like this
cause yin yang twins in this bitch
Lil Jon and the East side boys wit me
and we all like to see Ass and tities
Now bring yo ass over here hoe
and let me see you get low if you want this Thug
Now take it to the floor (to the floor) and if yo ass wanta act you can keep yo ass where you at

3,6,9 standing real fine move it to you suck it to me one mo time
Get low, Get low, Get Low, Get Low
To the window, to the wall, (to dat wall)
To the sweat drop down my balls (MY BALLS)
To all these bitches crawl (crawl)
To all skee skee motherfucker (motherfucker!) all skee skee got dam (Got dam)
To all skee skee motherfucker (motherfucker!) all skee skee got dam (Got dam)

Let me see you get low you scared you, scared you
Drop dat ass to the floor you scared you, scared you
Let me see you get low you scared you, scared you
Drop dat ass to the floor you scared you, scared you
Turn dat ass (EH!) shake it fast ya (EH!)
Pop dat ass (EH!) to the left and the right ya (EH!)
Turn dat ass (EH!) shake it fast ya (EH!)
Pop dat ass (EH!) to the left and the right ya (EH!)
Now back, back, back it up (Ahhh!)
a back,(Ahhh!) back, back it up (Ahhh!)
a back,(Ahhh!) back, back it up (Ahhh!)
a back,(Ahhh!) back, back it up (Ahhh!)
Now stop ( O) then wiggle wit, yeaaaa
Now stop ( O) then wiggle wit, yeaaaa
Now stop ( O) then wiggle wit, yeaaaa
Now stop ( O) then wiggle wit, wiggle wit it

3,6,9 standing real fine move it to you suck it to me one mo time
Get low, Get low, Get Low, Get Low
To the window, to the wall, (to dat wall)
To the sweat drop down my balls (MY BALLS)
To all these bitches crawl (crawl)
To all skee skee motherfucker (motherfucker!) all skee skee got dam (Got dam)
To all skee skee motherfucker (motherfucker!) all skee skee got dam (Got dam)

Now give me my doe back and go get ya friend
Stupid bitch standing there while I'm drinking my hen
Steady looking at me Still asking questions
Times up nigga pass me another contestant
Hoe move to the left if you ain't bout 50th
Done talk through 3 or 4 songs already
looking at a nigga with yo palm all out
bitch I ain't even seen you dance
Twerk something baby work something baby
Pop yo pussy on the pole do yo thang baby
Slide down dat bitch
wit yo little bit then stop
Get back on the floor catch yo balance then drop
Now bring it back up clap yo ass like hands
I just wanna see yo ass drity dance
ying yang we done again
And put it on the map like annnnn

3,6,9 standing real fine move it to you suck it to me one mo time
Get low, Get low, Get Low, Get Low
To the window, to the wall, (to dat wall)
To the sweat drop down my balls (MY BALLS)
To all these bitches crawl (crawl)
To all skee skee motherfucker (motherfucker!) all skee skee got dam (Got dam)
To all skee skee motherfucker (motherfucker!) all skee skee got dam (Got dam)

Got dam (Got dam) ya y'all twreking a little bit ladies
But ya got to twrek alittle bit harder then dat
now right now I need all the ladies dat know they look good tonite
(where my sexy ladies) we want y'all to do this shit like this
Bend over to the front touch toes
back dat ass up and down and get low (get low)
Bend over to the front touch toes
back dat ass up and down and get low (get low)
Bend over to the front touch toes
back dat ass up and down and get low (get low)
Bend over to the front touch toes
back dat ass up and down and get low (get low)

3,6,9 standing real fine move it to you sing it to me one mo time
Get low, Get low, Get Low, Get Low
To the window, to the wall, (to dat wall)
To the sweat drop down my balls (MY BALLS)
To all these bitches crawl (crawl)
To all skee skee motherfucker (motherfucker!) all skee skee got dam (Got dam)
To all skee skee motherfucker (motherfucker!) all skee skee got dam (Got dam)

Brrr dum dum dum---dum da da da da dum
Brrr dum dum dum---dum da da da da dum---Brrrrrrrmmmmm
Brrr dum dum dum---dum da da da da dum---Brrrrrrrmmmmm
Brrr dum dum dum---dum da da da da dum