scott plagenhoef, i kiss you

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― gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 10 October 2003 12:53 (twenty-one years ago)

also good to see pfork now has a decent person to cover hiphop again with new writer mullah omar.

― gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 10 October 2003 12:54 (twenty-one years ago)

"new"

― gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 10 October 2003 12:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I always like Scott's writing, but this review forgets one thing: if I didn't like hair metal and cock rock in the 80s, why would I like it now?

― dleone (dleone), Friday, 10 October 2003 12:59 (twenty-one years ago)

i think the subtext then is: you are beyond hope.

― gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 10 October 2003 13:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Clearly. I did used to get scared by the Bark at the Moon cover though.

― dleone (dleone), Friday, 10 October 2003 13:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Scott Plagenhoef, I kiss you twice!

(On the other hand, let some of the hataz have a go at the pop tracks on We Are The World, Scott - I click on a Sugababes or Kylie review in anticipation of something nicely idiotic to get the circulation going of a morning and it's always SP giving them their due! Gah!)

― Tom (Groke), Friday, 10 October 2003 13:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Scott deserves another one for the Richard X review.

― Barima (Barima), Friday, 10 October 2003 13:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Before dying, the old man becomes a child again.

― Hunter (Hunter), Friday, 10 October 2003 18:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I have no objection to the idea of The Darkness (I'm listening to the new Iron Maiden album right now, and it's probably gonna make my Top Ten), but I heard some of their music on MTV the other day, and that vocalist has Got To Go.

― Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Friday, 10 October 2003 18:56 (twenty-one years ago)

i equally loved that dexys review

― Felcher (Felcher), Friday, 10 October 2003 18:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Plagenhoef is really good, isn't he? He's openminded with good taste. I guess that whole Magnet list debacle made me realize that Pitchfork is actually, all things considered, a good thing. It could just cover boring indie, but it doesn't. And it's probably making MF Doom a lot of money.

― Tom Breihan (Tom Breihan), Friday, 10 October 2003 19:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I really really dislike this band, but I can see why people would like them. I really really like this line from that piece though, far more than anything The Darkness has done themselves:

"...because making snap judgments -- especially ones based on anything except, y'know, what's coming out of your speakers and whether or not it engages you -- seems like a bit of a foolish thing to do."

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 10 October 2003 19:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmph.

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Friday, 10 October 2003 19:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I mean, I guess I could say their music engages me, in that it engages me to kick the speakers from which the sound is coming from.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 10 October 2003 20:02 (twenty-one years ago)

i really like scott p, but sometimes reading his writing feels like listening to the disembodied talking head of the 'ilm massive'. yknow? except it's not really a 'but', because i love the ilm massive, my 'top 10 tracks you like right now' etc posts are textbook ilm pop convert opinion. would a 'taste homogeny' thread be any good? have we had one?

― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Friday, 10 October 2003 20:39 (twenty-one years ago)

i think i take that post back. i haven't slept in a long time, btw.

― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Friday, 10 October 2003 20:40 (twenty-one years ago)

haha, Mitch - no worries. There is truth in that, in a way. Discovering ILM was a big influence on me and it's more probably pronounced at Pitchfork than at Stylus, where at the time there were more writers with ILM-esque sensibilities (todd and gavin -- both of whom are better at writing about pop/microhouse, etc., than I am, too -- come to mind.) At Pitchfork, any of the guitar bands I like (and most of the American bands I like, frankly) -- ILM 'approved' or not -- are in more capable hands w/other writers so I end up filling in the cracks, so to speak, and writing about a lot of things I enjoy that otherwise may not get covered (e.g. richard x, darkness, and dexys).

― scott pl. (scott pl.), Friday, 10 October 2003 21:44 (twenty-one years ago)

*probably more*

― scott pl. (scott pl.), Friday, 10 October 2003 21:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Hate to interrupt, fellas; you seem a group of veterans who probably don't take kindly to having to interpret for kids who don't know the lingo. But I gotta ask: what on earth is ILM?

I suppose once someone answers that question, I'll know what "ILM massive" and "ILM-esque" mean, too.

Thanks.

Btw: super review today, Mr. Plagenhoef.

― Nat Reilly, Saturday, 11 October 2003 04:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Never mind. ILM = I Love Music. I get it. Flame away, but I get it.

― Nat Reilly, Saturday, 11 October 2003 04:37 (twenty-one years ago)

(just wanted to clarify, in the cold, non-dismissive, light of morning that scott's writing is foremost GOOD writing, however much his opinion is 'ilm informed'. any ol' hack can like kelis.)

― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Saturday, 11 October 2003 09:41 (twenty-one years ago)

don't dismiss snap judgements. but don't stand by them either

― prima fassy (bob), Saturday, 11 October 2003 11:28 (twenty-one years ago)

permission denied!

― prima fassy (bob), Saturday, 11 October 2003 11:30 (twenty-one years ago)

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