bernard gunter

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picked up the reissue of 'un peu de neige salie' yesterday. Gunter gets compared to morton feldman but its closer in spirit to Cage and surely this is what 4'33'' was leading up to (I suppose I hear some xenakis electronics in some of the sounds coming out).

I like it a lot and I'll prob pick a few more albs soon. which ones do you like?

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 12 October 2003 17:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I wrote an article about him (interviewed him by e-mail) a few years ago.

My favorites, more or less in order:

Univers Temporel Espoir
For Mark Rothko
Monochrome White/Polychrome w/Neon Nails
Monochrome Rust/Differential

I stopped picking his stuff up after Time, Dreaming Itself though, because it was getting too loud. I like him just at the edge of audibility (the first two tracks on Univers... are what I think is his absolute peak).

Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Sunday, 12 October 2003 18:35 (twenty-one years ago)

thanks for the recommnedations.

also: lets extend this to an overview of trente oiseaux as it has released other ppl apart from Gunter.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 12 October 2003 18:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I like what I've heard from him but I've never bought anything because it's a lot cheaper just to take the headphones off and open the window

Sonny A. (Keiko), Sunday, 12 October 2003 19:44 (twenty-one years ago)

if it's too loud, you're too old?

i really like "for mark rothko" and "time, dreaming itself" because you can almost hear the damn things, though there is the issue of whether his music is interesting enough to justify being audible.

your null fame (yournullfame), Sunday, 12 October 2003 20:27 (twenty-one years ago)

it's a lot cheaper just to take the headphones off and open the window

Indeed. Living in the suburbs, 'Un peu de neige salie' is one of those recordings I literally cannot listen to, as the sounds simply cannot be discerned against the city hum. Frightening.

Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Sunday, 12 October 2003 20:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I work in the city but i do not live in it. i commute.

if you opened the window you would not hear these sounds. I actually the clicks, frequencies, the way the whole series of events are sequenced really listenable and if you would turn the volume knob up there is a soundworld there.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 13 October 2003 09:16 (twenty-one years ago)

un peu and details agrandis really ROCK if you crank them up LOUD like bernie doesn't want you to.
don't try falling asleep to night music / crossing the river cos the 2nd track is a dog breathing and freaks the hell out of me when i'm drifting off

bob snoom, Monday, 13 October 2003 09:20 (twenty-one years ago)

also: I got the reissue but it was 'remixed' (that's what the guy who i bought it from told me so it would be interesting to hear any differences).

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 13 October 2003 09:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Calling albums things like "For Mark Rothko" is probably what leads people to invoke Morton Feldman

Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 13 October 2003 13:15 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah well I actually pulled out another interview (yes, it was in the wire, you guessed it) and Feldman is the composer he seems to really love the most and the guy who did the feauture agreed but I don't hear it: the point of connection is that both are inspired by painters (hence deicating compostions to them) but Feldman went off on another tangent. that's the way i'm hearing it.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 13 October 2003 13:31 (twenty-one years ago)

People (i.e. journalists) seem to get Morton Feldman wrong constantly - have they actually heard anything by him?

Dadaismus (Dada), Monday, 13 October 2003 13:37 (twenty-one years ago)

they probably have but they might have fallen asleep before the composition ended ;)

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 13 October 2003 13:42 (twenty-one years ago)


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