Will I ever get sick of sped-up soul vocal samples?

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I just saw the video for Kanye West's Through the Wire before work this AM and I realized that, as much as it has been overused in the past few years, I honestly never get sick of sped up vocal samples....I mean, it's been around since (I think) Can It Be All so Simple by Wu-Tang, and crazy prevalent since U Don't Know, Oh Boy, etc...but I still love it every single time...

So, am I the only one that's simple enough to be dazzled by it every time, or are there others of you out there?

― Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 13 October 2003 19:02 (twenty-one years ago)

UK hardcore circa 1992-1993 to thread!

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 13 October 2003 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)

oh my god yes. I mean no, I won't. and yes, UK hardcore circa 1992-3 is the greatest music ever made, basically.

― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 13 October 2003 19:13 (twenty-one years ago)

was the sped-up thing invented in UK dance music? I have little-to-zero knowledge of dance, so sorry didn't mean to misattribute it to wu-tang if they were not the first, my bad, they were just the first time I remember hearing it.

― Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 13 October 2003 19:14 (twenty-one years ago)

also Chipmunks to thread.

― Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 13 October 2003 19:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't know that it was invented by UK dance music (as you say, Chipmunks to thread), but you couldn't turn around without hearing it EVERYWHERE in 1993.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 13 October 2003 19:19 (twenty-one years ago)

hmm....any good comps or artists that I should look at in that style...um..also not to sound totally stupid but was "hardcore" a genre or was it "hardcore something" like "hardcore punk"

thanks!

― Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 13 October 2003 19:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Someone from the UK should really answer this because I was calling a lot of it "breakbeat techno" until people on Usenet started screaming at me.

Search:

The House Crew - "Euphoria (Nino's Dream)"
Acen - EVERYTHING but particularly "Trip II The Moon" and "Close Your Eyes"
NRG - "I Need Your Love"
Blame - "Music Takes You (2 Bad Mice remix)"
The Speed Limit 140+ BPM series on Moonshine Records (particularly volumes I, II, III, V, and VII)
The Prodigy - _Experience_, _Songs For The Jilted Generation_

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 13 October 2003 19:49 (twenty-one years ago)

"breakbeat hardcore" is how it's sometimes differentiated if that helps. it's the stuff that predates jungle/drum & bass. the best comp is History of Our World Part 1: Breakbeat & Jungle Ultramix by DJ DB, which is out of print but fairly easy to find used or to download (or maybe trade for).

― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 13 October 2003 19:51 (twenty-one years ago)

there's also a pretty comprehensive list of the tracks/comps in Simon Reynolds' Generation Ecstasy/Energy Flash book, in which breakbeat hardcore (or as he calls it 'ardkore) receives a chapter.

― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 13 October 2003 19:52 (twenty-one years ago)

i actually hate sped up soul vocal samples and it was my bugbear throughout listening to all that ardkore - at least the ones where it did sound like Pinky & perky - i guess there are several exceptions tho (nino's dream, numerous nookie and manix productions, acen, sy-kick etc.). my least favourite was this track that took the Degrees Of Motion 'Shine On' acapella, sped it up and looped it over and over, driving me into a curious episode of liking the Stone Temple Pilots in the process...

― stevem (blueski), Monday, 13 October 2003 19:55 (twenty-one years ago)

MATOS OTM

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 13 October 2003 19:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Dan Perry, my MN-bred 'ardkore-believah! brother in arms.

― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 13 October 2003 20:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm still pissed that I lost my copy of that CD when I moved. Grr.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 13 October 2003 20:10 (twenty-one years ago)

email me, Dan

― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 13 October 2003 20:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Woo-hoo!

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 13 October 2003 20:13 (twenty-one years ago)

jesus, I'm from MN too....I sometimes think everyone in the world is from Minnesota. Btw thanks for the advice, fellows.

― Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 13 October 2003 20:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Jucy Lucys for everyone!

― Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 13 October 2003 20:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Now I can't get "Feeling So Real" out of my head.

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Monday, 13 October 2003 20:19 (twenty-one years ago)

the convergence of "Feeling So Real" and Juicy Lucys just now, as I am listening to History of Our World Part 1, is making me the happiest man alive.

― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 13 October 2003 20:20 (twenty-one years ago)

If that song is as good as a Jucy Lucy, you must be very happy indeed.

― Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 13 October 2003 20:22 (twenty-one years ago)

it is it is it is. it's off Moby's Everything Is Wrong

― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 13 October 2003 20:35 (twenty-one years ago)

oh wait okay I know that song, it is good. my roomate had that album in college....

― Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 13 October 2003 20:55 (twenty-one years ago)

it's a pretty, happy song.

― Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 13 October 2003 20:55 (twenty-one years ago)

moby's favorite hamburger place:

http://www.mattsbar.com/

― Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 13 October 2003 20:59 (twenty-one years ago)

(Matt, do you work at Game Informer or are you just registered at their domain?)

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 13 October 2003 21:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I work there, I am an editor/writer.

― Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 13 October 2003 21:10 (twenty-one years ago)

NICE! There was a period of time not too long ago when I was addicted to Game Informer.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 13 October 2003 21:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Cool....glad you like it....it's a fun job - a whole 'nother level of dork-dom!

― Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 13 October 2003 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)

DUDE! You're that dude!

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Monday, 13 October 2003 21:37 (twenty-one years ago)

(the 100th issue is u&k)

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Monday, 13 October 2003 21:42 (twenty-one years ago)

jeez you guys are going to make me *blush*

thanx for the kind words about the mag.

― Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 13 October 2003 21:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Baltimore club is another good place to go for your sped-up vocal sample fix - a lot of times the club mixes of current hip hop hits are jacked up a few bpm's to great effect.

it kind of annoys me that some people (Kanye especially) act like they invented the soul-sample thing and that everyone else who does it is ripping him and Just Blaze off, but yeah, it is a pretty great sound when used well. but I think that Kanye and Blaze are good enough all-around producers that they'd do well to leave that gimmick alone before they get completely pigeonholed. besides, the Heatmakerz are doing a good job of jocking that sound and can go ahead and keep lacing the Diplomats and the rest of the Roc with soul beats.

what I think we need more of is screwed & chopped versions of songs w/ soul samples, so that the sped-up vocals are brought back down to their original speed (or even slower).

― Al (sitcom), Monday, 13 October 2003 22:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Screwed soul samples don't work very well. (I like the Lil Flip 'Screw It Again' freestyle from Underground Freestyles. ['Do It Again' and 'Can't Be Stopped,' from Golden Grain are my two favorite sped up soul samples.]) (There's a screwed version of 'What We Do' on, I think, The Final Chapter 2k3. They use the end of it to mix it with all of the beats coming up on the album, 'I Don't Give a Fuck' and 'Make It Clap' and the Pac Man one and they make squiggly turntable noises and it sounds okay.) I'd like to hear unscrewed sped up soul samples mixed with screwed freestyles.

― d k (d k), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 01:23 (twenty-one years ago)

What about sped up hip hop samples? Always one of my favourite things about dutch hardcore... dye witness to thread...

― Jacob (Jacob), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 03:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Eeek, I'd forgotten Everything Is Wrong. What a great super-late night disc. Too bad it vanished from my collection, and Moby's ability to actual write good tunes vanished with it.

― rob geary (rgeary), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 03:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Can't stand that sample on Oh Boy! I think it's the absurd level of repetition. Kanye West does it right every time, though. Just Blaze is pretty good with it too, but doesn't use it as frequently I think.

― rob geary (rgeary), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 03:41 (twenty-one years ago)

tear by skeptic is also amazing. same kind of thing, just so infectious and sad yearning and rinse out.

― Barnaby (Barnaby), Tuesday, 14 October 2003 11:41 (twenty-one years ago)

eight months pass...

bunch of techno lovin fools, this started with talkin about sampling soul/R&B records for hip hop, yall talkin about ardkore and hardcore house UK trance your beats always be, boom tat, boom tat, boom tat but at a 115-140 bpms

― , Thursday, 1 July 2004 07:50 (twenty-one years ago)

if i never have to hear another fucking song off of college drop out or the songs he's done w/twista i will die a happy man

― JaXoN (JasonD), Thursday, 1 July 2004 16:11 (twenty-one years ago)

four months pass...

WHEN WILL THIS MADNESS END???

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Sunday, 7 November 2004 18:34 (twenty years ago)

Speed Garage to thread too!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Sunday, 7 November 2004 18:56 (twenty years ago)

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