I want to like a rock band

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Surely there must be one out there for me? I mean, sometimes I don't feel like listening to jazz or hip-hop or electronic music or brass band, you know? I'm only human, and we all need to rock out sometimes. I'm much less likely to take a chance on a rock band than anything else, and they're much more likely to annoy me for whatever reason.

So tell me who is really fucking good. Who can play. I REALLY WANTED to like the Mars Volta album, but it just wasn't what I hoped (I still have to give it another shot though). Radiohead. Don Cab. Tool. I was thinking of getting that new Rancid album. Hmmm. Are the Constantines any good? Their reviews always have a lot of superlatives.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Von Bondies, Queens Of The Stone Age, Turbonegro...

adaml (adaml), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 19:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Sonny's Top Five Rock Bands in the Word Right Now

1. The Libertines*
and then there's the rest

2. Sleater-Kinney
3. Deerhoof
4. Lightning Bold
5. The Thermals
(6. The Hold Steady -- okay I've only heard one song... but LIFTER FUCKING PULLER!!)

*okay I'm exaggerating, but they're actually quite good

Sonny A. (Keiko), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 19:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Dimmu Borgir

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 19:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh shit I forgot the Strokes!!

Saying a little about each would be appropriate, I guess.

The Libertines are a British rock band that stand out from the other bands I listen to because they're so British and they're so rock. I think they sound like the Clash only they're much catchier. People say they sound like other bands but I don't know any of those.

Sleater-Kinney always make great records because they're the best rock band of all time. They were a punk band but I don't think they are anymore. Some people find her voice annoying.

Some people wouldn't consider Lightning BolT a rock band but they rock really hard. Imagine the sound of rocking multiplied by rock to the rockth power.

The Thermals are very catchy but they get kinda samey over the course of the record. Download "I Know the Pattern" and "No Culture Icons".

If you've never heard Lifter Puller you should do so immediately. The Hold Steady is Craig from Lifter Puller's new band. I can't wait.

Sonny A. (Keiko), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 19:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Holy shit Sonny that's the best description of Lightning Bolt that is, was, or ever will be!

nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 20:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I like the Constantines, but they probably won't give you enough of the rock that you're looking for. Regardless, search "Nighttime/Anytime (It's Alright)".

You want a band that can play? Two syllables for ya: Hella!

Nick Mirov (nick), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 20:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks Nick, and I wasn't even trying!!!!


I forgot the Ratpure too!

x-post Hella are pretty good too!

Sonny A. (Keiko), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 20:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm very fond of that Thermals record, and it doesn't last long enough to get samey for me... awesome live, too.

Douglas (Douglas), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 20:08 (twenty-one years ago)

If you like rap, I'd second Lifter Puller....Craig Finn has a certain hip-hopish aethetic going on with his lyrics/phrasing/and name checking of local culture, streets. etc....Also very catchy.

Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 20:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm personally of the opinion that, when they get a move on, My Morning Jacket are blessed verily in the way of rocking. They got some really cool tender moments, but with them geetars a'twangin' and them drums a'bangin' they got some good energy goin' there.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 20:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I feel the same way about the Thermals record, Douglas, but I think I might feel differently if I were afraid to rock like Jordan here.

Sonny A. (Keiko), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 20:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh yeah, I forgot that I've been meaning to check out Hella (or Lightning Bolt, I forget which).

The Thermals record sounds interesting.

I've heard some Lifter Puller, I should definitely hear more...speaking of mpls bands, is Twelve Rods any good? I know Dave King from Happy Apple/Bad Plus plays drums on some of their albums.

Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 20:27 (twenty-one years ago)

i third lifter puller. one of the best bands ever. i think the libertines are pretty pedestrian and not very rocking at all, but they do have a lot of fans. maybe give dead moon a listen?

lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 20:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm gonna recommend the Dismemberment Plan for the same reason I probably would have recommended the Police in the early '80s. And the D-Plan are better.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 20:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, Who is the Best Rock Band in the World was a much easier question when the D-Plan was still together :(

Sonny A. (Keiko), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 20:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Dave King is in about 750 bands in Minneapolis. 12 Rods are good, very very poppy and catchy, kinda new-wavy....I'm not sure if he's a full-time member or not odds are he's probably played with them at some point. He was also in a more indie oriented band called Love Cars, maybe still is. 12 Rods are worth checking out.

Also, the Sex Pistols were a pretty good rock band IMO. or Led Zeppelin.

Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 20:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Teddy Leo's really good.

Adrian (Adrian Langston), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 21:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Predictable Yanc3y says:

Try the first Calla record or their remix album. Perfect blends of moody Gothic-western pop coupled with found-sound glitch. Kinda like the Cure with balls and a laptop. Avoid their most recent disc, Televise.

Try Hella's Hold Your Horse Is or Total Bugs Bunny on Wild Bass. So rhythmless its rhythmic, heavily melodic and the best drumming you'll ever hear.

Try Don Caballero's American Don -- slow jam R&B only not R&B and not particularly slow and made by wonky white dudes who loooooooove their pedals. Gorgeous!

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 22:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Also predictably, I second Yanc3y's Calla nomination, and would also like to second the Constantines mentioned upthread.

David A. (Davant), Wednesday, 15 October 2003 22:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I didn't like the Mars Volta album until I assumed anytime they stopped in the middle of the song and started playing something completely different they were trying to be funny.

joshd, Thursday, 16 October 2003 01:08 (twenty-one years ago)

No other clues other than you like jazz, hip-hop, electronic music and brass bands; and using a definition of "rock" that's broad enough to include Mars Volta, Radiohead, Don Caballero, Tool and Rancid?

How about: The Beatles, James Brown, Can, Captain Beefheart, Bob Dylan, Flaming Lips, Jimi Hendrix, Joy Division, New Order, The Pixies, Ramones, Sonic Youth, Velvet Underground, Frank Zappa or Yes?

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 16 October 2003 08:06 (twenty-one years ago)

If you're looking for good glammy hard-rock, I recommend "Easy Listening," by Cleveland's Cobra Verde. It reminds me of the best of Urge Overkill, only with more interesting lyrics and a better vocalist (both virtues courtesy of John Petkovic, one of the more interesting rock stars whom I've ever had the opportunity to have a real conversation with...).

For something more 60s garage rock oriented, try the late 2002 release from Pittsburgh's Cynics, "Living Is The Best Revenge." Aging entrepreurs Gregg Kostelich and Michael Kastelic (who founded and ran Get Hip! records in the 1980s; Kostelich still runs the label) got together for the first time in eight years to release what may be the best album of their career (although votes will be counted for 1989's "Rock 'N' Roll").

John S. Fredland (jfredland), Thursday, 16 October 2003 08:31 (twenty-one years ago)

many excellent choices upthread (you can't go wrong on most of mr. osborne's choices, imo). i still enjoy Liars'"They threw us all in a trench and stuck a monument on top" a lot. a record on which beats and guitars coincide with an aggressive attitude it makes you wanna LET GO! also, the singer's got the perfect matching swagger.

willem (willem), Thursday, 16 October 2003 10:02 (twenty-one years ago)

So tell me who is really fucking good. Who can play.

What does "who can play" mean? Does it matter?

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 16 October 2003 10:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Frank Black & The Catholics: 'Frank Black & The Catholics'

Jay Kid (Jay K), Thursday, 16 October 2003 10:12 (twenty-one years ago)

sir lord baltimore

duane, Thursday, 16 October 2003 10:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Les

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Thursday, 16 October 2003 11:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Savy

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Thursday, 16 October 2003 11:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Fav

CharlieNo4 (Charlie), Thursday, 16 October 2003 11:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Stewart: Yeah, I guess I forgot to specify that I want to hear something NEW as opposed to canonical, or at least something I haven't heard before.

I also forgot to mention that the only band who's really satisfied my rock urge in the last year is Spoon.

What does "who can play" mean? Does it matter?

I'm not talking about people busting their chops all over the place, but with Spoon for example, it's clear that they're great musicians who are playing exactly what they want to play, and grooving the fuck out of it. Let's not get into ye olde debate and start listing a million great bands who are not technically good at their instruments, I'm just saying I'm more likely to be interested in what they are doing if they're good musicians.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 16 October 2003 12:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Get "Knock Loud" by the Paybacks. Nothing fancy-pants or "rockish." It's fucking rock n roll like Joan Jett and the Blackhearts fucking rock n roll. It's goddamn fantastic.

Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Thursday, 16 October 2003 15:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Will do! I remember reading an interview with them in some free zine that was funny. Or maybe it was one of the other five Detroit rock bands in that issue.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 16 October 2003 15:27 (twenty-one years ago)

If you ever get the chance (and you probably won't), go see Lungfish live. It will burn rock into your eyeballs.

Also, DO get the new Rancid, by all means. Some of it actually kinda reminds me of Kill the Moonlight, now that I think about it.

Tom Breihan (Tom Breihan), Thursday, 16 October 2003 15:38 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm just saying I'm more likely to be interested in what they are doing if they're good musicians.

How exceedingly rockist of you, ha ha.

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 16 October 2003 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, ilm in lazy accusations of rockism shocker, that's what I was trying to avoid getting into by when I said obv. bands don't have to be good at their instruments to be good. Yeah, all you need is attitude and good ideas, fine, but Don Cab or Led Zep or Spoon or James Brown would sound like shit if they couldn't execute them. Fuck me for knowing that I would rather hear someone who is good at what they do than good at bullshitting (with many noteable exceptions).

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 16 October 2003 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)

That wasn't lazy, that was ironic. Of course Geir would tell you that James Brown is not even a musician let alone a good one, haha.

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 16 October 2003 16:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Right on, Jordan.

Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Thursday, 16 October 2003 16:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry, Dadaismus. I wondered if you were kidding, glad you were.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 16 October 2003 16:38 (twenty-one years ago)

i'd sorta assumed you'd been a metal fan since you were eight, for some reason. oh, illusion.

thom west (thom w), Thursday, 16 October 2003 17:20 (twenty-one years ago)

No Thom, you're exactly right. I just stopped listening to it when I went to college and my metal band broke up.

(but now I'm in another metal band so the story has a happy ending hurrah!)

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 16 October 2003 17:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Jesus, and I was actually thinking of checking out Kill the Moonlight. Now i'm scared.

mammal, Friday, 17 October 2003 02:03 (twenty-one years ago)

If you like Spoon, you'll probably dig The Natural History. They're kind of like Spoon with a groovy NYC post-punk backbone.

Nick Mirov (nick), Friday, 17 October 2003 02:15 (twenty-one years ago)

i would make a mixtape...

1. the ramones... i don't understand why, but when "blitzkreig bop" plays my shoulders are pinched, my body raises of the ground, and all my blank bone connected to my blank bone parts wanna explode in every degre of freedom they have available.

2. queen "bohemian rhapsody"..... because "they can play"... and goddam if you don't bang your head when the song rocks out you're either dead or ... or something. something awful. have that looked at.

3. billy idol "dancing with myself"... totally wanky, but hell, what's rock without wank eh?

4. a song by black dice i only know as untitled... it sounds a lot like the track 1 description i wrote, not the song, but painful. it 9 levels of right.

5. black sabbath "war pigs"... forget the batty geriatrics, ozzy and co. could throw down.

6. led zeppelin ..."black dog" or "immigrant song"... eh...it's hard to narrow down a personal favorite stand out here. there's a couple others that all sit on this butte of monstrosity.

7. dillinger escape plan "43% burnt"... in fucking sane.

8. devo "uncontrollable urge" "i say yeeah!"

9. red hot chili peppers "catholic school girls" ... cause dude, those pleated skirts make an old man weep!

10. link wray "rumble"... for pure cool.

11. pavement "baptiss blacktick"... yiyiyiyiy!

12. tina t. "proud mary"... whoo!

m.

msp, Friday, 17 October 2003 02:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Kill the Moonlight is brilliant, almost perfect. It does not sound like Rancid (although I may have shot to hell any rock credibility I had with this thread?).

M, I've heard (and like) all of those except for the Black Dice, Link Wray, and Pavement (which I have not heard but may like).

Hopefully I'll get to pick up or download a few things this weekend, esp. Hella, The Paybacks, Lifter Puller, and Rancid.

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 17 October 2003 12:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Aerosmith Rocks is the album for you.

David Gates of Delirium, Friday, 17 October 2003 12:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Andrew muthafukkin' WK y'all.

Nick H, Friday, 17 October 2003 15:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I think Chavez rocked. Good big rock. I wish they were still doing records.

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Saturday, 18 October 2003 00:54 (twenty-one years ago)

adaml had it. If you can listen to Apocalypse Dudes by TRBNGR and not find at least all but "Desolation Street" that you love, then you be foolin, kid. Also, t\'\'t said that scandinavian ethereal band, but, that's more like experimental elevator music.

Helltime Producto (Pavlik), Saturday, 18 October 2003 02:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Wait, nevermind, I had Dimmu Borgir confused with Sigur Ros. How Embarassing.

Helltime Producto (Pavlik), Saturday, 18 October 2003 02:56 (twenty-one years ago)

You've got Girls Can Tell, right? Lots better than Kill the Moonlight, I think

Sonny A. (Keiko), Saturday, 18 October 2003 03:33 (twenty-one years ago)

David is OTM, "Rocks" is the most correctly-titled album ever.

Mike Ouderkirk (Mike Ouderkirk), Saturday, 18 October 2003 06:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Racebannon
AC/DC

donut bitch (donut), Saturday, 18 October 2003 06:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I've got Girls Can Tell, and it's a great album, but I like KtM a lot more. It could just be because I heard it first, but it seems like it takes some of the best things about GCT (the hooks, the spacious grooves and the varied production) and just pushes them through roof in these short, perfect, tightly wound little tunes.

I'd really like to hear the earlier albums though, are they more raw/less restrained?

Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 18 October 2003 14:20 (twenty-one years ago)

The earlier albums are still good, still catchy, but yes, more raw. They're kinda restrained though! The tension is the best part. Think "Believing Is Art" of GCT.

Sonny A. (Keiko), Saturday, 18 October 2003 14:26 (twenty-one years ago)

Try some Sweet, or Gary Glitter

A Nairn (moretap), Saturday, 18 October 2003 16:22 (twenty-one years ago)


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