I'm 36 but I have been bying rock records for the first time in my life. I am totally there with early Judas Priest, where should I go next? Some Slayer? Bear in mind that all I know is techno, electro and house. But I like hard rocking riffs and lots of tuneage, a dark, rough, underproduced sound, attitude, simplicity and a good solid backbeat, and a little cheese and knowing camp is fine by me (nb, I think all death metal is camp). But I don't really go for ultra-commercial stuff. Please advise this rock ignoramus.
Also, I
― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Thursday, 16 October 2003 00:09 (twenty-two years ago)
― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Thursday, 16 October 2003 00:10 (twenty-two years ago)
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 16 October 2003 00:13 (twenty-two years ago)
Also I like an act that stretches and goes in unexpected directions, from one record to the next, in terms of their production aesthetic and their tunes. It makes life interesting - even if they don't always succeed (eg Priest) - but of course if they do always succeed, so much the better.
― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Thursday, 16 October 2003 00:19 (twenty-two years ago)
oh wait. those are '80s. Oh! The Yeah Yeah Yeahs!
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 16 October 2003 00:26 (twenty-two years ago)
I personally like it a lot harder and a lot sillier. YYY's are maybe a little too cool for me to really love. I'm not invited to their party cos I'm a nerd. So bring on the stupid lyrics and the crazy jagged riffing!
― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Thursday, 16 October 2003 00:34 (twenty-two years ago)
― gaz (gaz), Thursday, 16 October 2003 00:44 (twenty-two years ago)
Exactly! I thought I was the only one who occasionally felt a band was too hip for me.
― David Allen, Thursday, 16 October 2003 00:45 (twenty-two years ago)
Burzum, Gaz? I'm assuming from the alone that they're Satanists from Norway?.
― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Thursday, 16 October 2003 00:48 (twenty-two years ago)
Budgie -- the first five LPs.
Slade -- "Slade Alive" and "Slayed."
Montrose -- first album.
ZZ Top -- "Tres Hombres."
If you're going to go for Slayer, go for Coroner, too.
The first Cheap Trick album.
Blue Oyster Cult -- the newest live CD. It's not the old bandbut it's a good sampler and it leans to the guitarus maximus heavier, riffic parts of the catalog. If you want the old bandin a sampler that's a guitar heavy mix, it's "On Your Feet orOn Your Knees."
Foghat -- "Fool for the City" or "Live," maybe "Energized" for lesser known over-the-top hysterical performance.
Aerosmith -- "Get Your Wings," "Rocks."
Uriah Heep -- first album (Very "Eavy, Very 'Umble"), if enjoyed,"Look At Yourself." Or vice versa.
Robin Trower -- "Bridge of Sighs."
Witchfinder General -- "Death Penalty"
There, that'll blow a hole in your wallet.
― George Smith, Thursday, 16 October 2003 00:50 (twenty-two years ago)
― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Thursday, 16 October 2003 00:53 (twenty-two years ago)
― gaz (gaz), Thursday, 16 October 2003 00:58 (twenty-two years ago)
― the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 16 October 2003 01:00 (twenty-two years ago)
Sir Lord Baltimore - obscure 70s hard rock excellent time 10!!!
Iron Maiden - the tinny production might turn you off, but I'd check out at least Piece of Mind or the debut album....
I'm in the minority but I love Ritchie Blackmore's Rainbow
Captain Beyond - a bit prog, a bit southern rock, all good!
not to state the obvious, but if you don't own Black Sabbath's Paranoid or Masters of Reality, you should (or Vol. 4, for that matter)
― Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 16 October 2003 01:00 (twenty-two years ago)
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― scott seward, Thursday, 16 October 2003 01:36 (twenty-two years ago)
I have a question. I find it interesting that, as someone who's only really been into techno/house/etc....that the rock you're finally coming around to is the real capital-R Rawk of the 70s/metal variety....I guess I've always thought of that as so diametrically opposed to the aethetics of dance/techno music...i.e. the theatricality (if that's a word), the guitarist as huge cock wielding god worship, the sludgey riffs, bombast, etc....(all of which, having grown up in a small town in the Midwest is encoded in my DNA and I still love).....anyway, I guess I'm just curious as to why you are suddenly liking the kind of rock that you're apparently liking.....I would have expected you to gravitate towards more artsy/experiemental type stuff that maybe shares some qualities with techno....
― Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 16 October 2003 01:37 (twenty-two years ago)
― scott seward, Thursday, 16 October 2003 01:50 (twenty-two years ago)
Yeah, isn't it weird? What's your theory? I suppose though the techno I liked was always the really basic, primal stuff. I mean, Alan Oldham's more metal outings like X-313, early gabba and UR, pitilessly hypnotic industrial grooves like Regis and Surgeon...
As for ego, well, Derrick May. But hang on, I have had another thought about this. There's something really, er, STRUTTING about the music I like, whether it be funk, techno, electro (such a strutting music!) or rock. It kinda swaggers along, it's, erm, cocky. I love that.
Ah, but you know I also love the opposite: quiet, gentle, reflective stuff. So really maybe it's just a question of getting older and wanting to invesigate things one knows nothing about - moving from the familiar, step by-step, rather than just diving in at some random spot.
― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Thursday, 16 October 2003 01:57 (twenty-two years ago)
Yes, indeed, there's lots I forgot.
The Godz rool. M-I-double-S-I-double-S-I-double-P-I!Bobby Gentry as filtered through Marshall Super Lead and a six pack.
― George Smith, Thursday, 16 October 2003 03:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Thursday, 16 October 2003 03:58 (twenty-two years ago)
― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Thursday, 16 October 2003 04:22 (twenty-two years ago)
― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Thursday, 16 October 2003 04:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ian Johnson (orion), Thursday, 16 October 2003 04:32 (twenty-two years ago)
if this is true then (a) this would be the greatest album EVAH!; or (b) it would be any Queens of the Stone Age record (which would mean that it really isn't the greatest album evah).
― Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Thursday, 16 October 2003 04:40 (twenty-two years ago)
but would mr. halford have ever dyed his hair blue (i know, that's 1984 numan) or looked like a bryan ferry clone (that's 1986 numan)?
― Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Thursday, 16 October 2003 04:42 (twenty-two years ago)
then Cradle of Filth is def. for you!
― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Thursday, 16 October 2003 04:50 (twenty-two years ago)
-- Little Big Macher (llamasfu...) (webmail), October 16th, 2003. (llamasfur)
Hmmm. No, I don't think so. Gary Numan really does take the cake. Then again, would Numan have worn what appears to be black tights and a jerkin (back cover, British Steel)? Or sported a feather boa (Rob Halford's ill-fated project, Two)?
― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Thursday, 16 October 2003 04:57 (twenty-two years ago)
― Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 16 October 2003 17:43 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tom Breihan (Tom Breihan), Thursday, 16 October 2003 18:06 (twenty-two years ago)
Ooh, Iced Earth! They're awesome for campy thrash metal riffage (they did a concept album based on Spawn for chrissake).
― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 16 October 2003 18:22 (twenty-two years ago)
― udu wudu (udu wudu), Thursday, 16 October 2003 20:06 (twenty-two years ago)
Oh, and DIO is more embarassing than Manowar and Rhapsody?
― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 16 October 2003 20:25 (twenty-two years ago)
― duane, Saturday, 18 October 2003 08:49 (twenty-two years ago)
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― duane, Saturday, 18 October 2003 08:54 (twenty-two years ago)
My favourite moment: When the singer goes, 'Enter into the realm of Satan!!!' and the groove immediately goes from 4/4 into a raunchy 3/4 grind. Of course! Satan himself definitely grooves in 3/4.
― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Saturday, 18 October 2003 08:59 (twenty-two years ago)
― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Saturday, 18 October 2003 09:36 (twenty-two years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Saturday, 18 October 2003 09:50 (twenty-two years ago)
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― duane, Saturday, 18 October 2003 12:07 (twenty-two years ago)
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― duane, Saturday, 18 October 2003 12:28 (twenty-two years ago)
― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Saturday, 18 October 2003 13:14 (twenty-two years ago)
― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Saturday, 18 October 2003 13:20 (twenty-two years ago)
Hello??!! Have any of you people heard more than three songs by Gary Numan? Do any of you know his real name? The mans a legend and theres no denying it. And you Old Fart, he put quotes around friends because hes had bad experiances. Before he was famous, he was in a band with some 'friends' and they practically abandoned him!! Excluded him from everything!!! So don't go around thinking you know everything about him, thats a Numanoid like myself's job. By the way, for your information(all of you) cars, Are 'Friends' Electric, and down in the park aren't the only songs he wrote! There are over 300!! -- The Turtle #1 (numanoi...), November 21st, 2002.
― Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Sunday, 19 October 2003 00:21 (twenty-two years ago)
His real name is Gary Webb. His first band was Mean Street. They kicked him out even though he wrote all the songs. It was so unfair! His early track, 'Mean Street' recounts that experience. In it, he sings, brilliantly, 'I want to see you die'.
But even though I'm a total Numanoid, Little Big Macher, my flatmate has even me beat: shee has a very rare early fan book, 'Numan by Computer' which has a fan letter in it where a girl dreams she is rescued by Gary Numan! He heals her wounds and everything! Plus it is wall to wall with superb photos, very stylised, and ripe for ripping off by today's crop of electro youngsters. There's even one of him smiling! He also says at one point, "I think the world's going homosexual'. That would be the early Bowie influence, then.
― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Sunday, 19 October 2003 00:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Sunday, 19 October 2003 01:02 (twenty-two years ago)
And did The Stranglers rip off 'Bombers' for their fine song, 'Skindeep'? Numan fans say: yes!
duane, according to what I've just read here and there on the web, Blue Cheer's first two albums are where they really nail something special. But where to jump in on Link Wray's long and chequered history - start from the start?
― colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Sunday, 19 October 2003 01:19 (twenty-two years ago)
Heavy Riffage - s/d
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 19 October 2003 12:13 (twenty-two years ago)
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