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I need some Thatcher songs! Preferably with her mentioned in the lyrics, or with some specific references to her. Please help me out. Feel free to add a short summary and/or analysis of the lyrical content if you want.

Hanna (Hanna), Thursday, 16 October 2003 08:51 (twenty-two years ago)

These are the ones that pop into my mind:

"Margaret on the guillotine" - Morrissey
"The day that Thatcher dies" - Hefner

(Mind you, the songs don't necessarily need to be hate songs, though I have a feeling it might be hard to find Thatcher tributes.)

Hanna (Hanna), Thursday, 16 October 2003 08:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Fun Boy Three: The Lunatics Have Taken Over The Asylum
The Blow Monkeys: (Celebrate) The Day After You

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 16 October 2003 08:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Surely Billy Bragg must have written many. But is there one where MT is actually mentioned?

Hanna (Hanna), Thursday, 16 October 2003 09:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Not being a "Brag-o-phile", I dunno!!!! But as far as others, "Tramp the Dirt Down" by Elvis Costello springs to mind!!!! And what's that one The (English for all you US folks!) Beat did which went "Stand Down Margret"!?!?!?

BTW If you want to find a tribute to Thatcher, then I seem to remember that upon the Iron Lady getting the order of the boot from her own party, Jonathan King rushed out a really terrible cover of that "I can't Let Maggie Go" tune that appeared on all those "Nimble" ads in the 1970s!!!! I also remember some documentary in the 80s about the Conservative PR tactics, and dropped in on some of their "showbiz" dos, which included a godawful tune called "Maggie's For Me!!!" done by one of those sort of vocalists that turned up as a guest on Val Doonican shows and suchlike!!!!!!

Old Fart!!! (oldfart_sd), Thursday, 16 October 2003 09:13 (twenty-two years ago)

"Bad Miss M" - Danielle Dax

"We'll all have a party when youre gone, desecrate your grave and sing this song..."

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 16 October 2003 10:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Billy Bragg - "Thatcherites"

dave225 (Dave225), Thursday, 16 October 2003 10:32 (twenty-two years ago)

anything on No U-Turn?

dave q, Thursday, 16 October 2003 10:43 (twenty-two years ago)

placebo - slave to the wage ("sick and tired of maggie's farm...")

the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 16 October 2003 10:45 (twenty-two years ago)

http://eil.com/NewGallery/Iron-Maiden-SanctuaryUncenso-7808.jpg

Siegbran (eofor), Thursday, 16 October 2003 10:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Ultraviolence - Hardcore Motherfucker
Morgan Heritage & Bounty Killer - Guns in the Ghetto

Dog Latin, Thursday, 16 October 2003 10:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Belle & Sebastian - Step Into My Office, Baby ("I was burned out by Thatcher")

Belle & Sebastian - Shoot The Sexual Athlete ("Even the sods trampled underfoot by Thatcher could appreciate their love")

N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 16 October 2003 11:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Elvis Costello - Tramp The Dirt Down

Damian (Damian), Thursday, 16 October 2003 11:18 (twenty-two years ago)

several tracks on Pink Floyd's The Final Cut

zebedee (zebedee), Thursday, 16 October 2003 11:27 (twenty-two years ago)

The Shamen - Shitting on Britain.

rw, Thursday, 16 October 2003 11:50 (twenty-two years ago)

the specials covered 'maggies farm' as an anti-thatcher song

joni, Thursday, 16 October 2003 12:04 (twenty-two years ago)

"And what's that one The (English for all you US folks!) Beat did which went "Stand Down Margret"!?!?!?"

Extraordinarily enough it was actually called "Stand Down Margaret"

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Thursday, 16 October 2003 12:17 (twenty-two years ago)

'How Does It Feel (To Be The Mother Of A 1000 Dead)'
and roughly 6,000,000 other top pop hits by Crass.

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 16 October 2003 12:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Extraordinarily enough it was actually called "Stand Down Margaret"
Ah, I was wondering!!!!

Also, didn't U2 do some live "cover" of Dylan's "Maggie's Farm", with bits of Thatcher tapes in the background?!?!?

Old Fart!!! (oldfart_sd), Thursday, 16 October 2003 13:06 (twenty-two years ago)

was "She Is Beyond Good And Evil" by The Pop Group (1979) about her?

if you're allowing songs about her policies / actions / values, you couldn't leave out "Shopping" by the Pet Shop Boys, surely?

robin carmody (robin carmody), Thursday, 16 October 2003 15:14 (twenty-two years ago)

was "She Is Beyond Good And Evil" by The Pop Group (1979) about her?

No they were in their schoolboy aesthete phase then, the red-faced ideologue phase followed later

Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 16 October 2003 15:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Wasn't there some "acid party" song with samples of Maggie, or someone pretending to be Maggie? Anyone remember the artist?

Kent Burt (lingereffect), Thursday, 16 October 2003 19:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Roger Waters - 4 Minutes
used her rant on 'our own independant nuclear deterant will help keep the peace' in the background.


yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah for homework questions.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 16 October 2003 19:34 (twenty-two years ago)

"Maggie came but now she's slaughtered" (in broad Laahndaahn tones) - Nomad featuring MC Mikee Freedom, "I Wanna Give You Devotion"

robin carmody (robin carmody), Thursday, 16 October 2003 20:03 (twenty-two years ago)

"70's 80's" - LSK from Outlaw album... also different version by Nightmares On Wax. Great tune sums up the period well.

peter dee (peter dee), Thursday, 16 October 2003 21:03 (twenty-two years ago)

The video for "Open Your Mind" by Usura had a lot of Thatcher pictures in it.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 16 October 2003 21:48 (twenty-two years ago)

i think theres a bridewell taxis song with thatcher samples, cant remember the song though

charltonlido (gareth), Friday, 17 October 2003 05:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Notsensibles - "(I'm In Love With) Margaret Thatcher"

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 17 October 2003 06:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Margaret's Injection / Kitchens of Distinction

JC (JC A.), Friday, 17 October 2003 06:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Shudder at New Order's brave 'State of the Nation'. The Smiths' 'Last Night I Dreamt...' has sample of striking miners from 84-85.

Enrique (Enrique), Friday, 17 October 2003 13:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Something by Thatcher On Acid

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Friday, 17 October 2003 14:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Big Hard Excellent Fish - "Imperfect List"

tony bleach, Friday, 17 October 2003 17:37 (twenty-two years ago)

The 'song' that 'Old Fart' is referring to, was the Official campaign song for the Tories in the landslide 1983 election... I believe involving Mike Batt? I saw a brief clip of this on a post-event documentary about that 1983 campaign (was able to borrow this from a history lecturer when doing an A-Level project on the Winter of Discontent - this was on a video with some documentaries about that era). The song was seen by one of the journalists as maybe one of the less successful elements of, but emblematic of, what was seen as a *far more up-to-date* and efficient campaign that the Tories ran, compared to Labour especially.

A tinny, 'jaunty' old cabaret piano strikes up and:
"Who do we want?
Who do we neeeed?
Who is the leader who really can lead?
Maggie Thatcher...
It's Maggie for me [...]
THATCHER THATCHER THATCHER NOT A MAN AROUND TO MATCH HER!"

Need I really add anything?

Oh, and Bragg: "Ideology" very much implicitly mentions her - "When one voice rules the nation/Just because they're top of the pile..."

Roy Harper: well, more of a Blair song actually, but his fairly recent "The Monster" draws the Blair/Thatcher link with the choice line: "same old hand... bag at the helm".

Pink Floyd (well Waters frankly): "The Post War Dream" is the main one from "The Final Cut", with an explicit criticism of Thatcher. I must admit I like that album - I know it is maudlin and a trifle agitprop at times, but it does strike me as heartfelt.

Tom May (Tom May), Saturday, 18 October 2003 10:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Did ABBA record a song called "When I Kissed Miss Thatcher" or have I misheard the lyrics? ;-)

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 18 October 2003 15:04 (twenty-one years ago)

'get rid of maggie' - macka b

c rooney, Sunday, 19 October 2003 01:42 (twenty-one years ago)

subthreads:

songs that can be / have been mistakenly interpreted to be about Thatcher - arch example: The Dream Academy's "Life In A Northern Town", supposedly actually about Nick Drake and a Warwickshire village, but inevitably taking on another meaning in the political context of spring 1985, after Scargill's defeat and before Kinnock's "change or die" speech (and they were asking for it with the "all the work shut down" line, surely).

songs which sounded good in the context of her downfall - PSB's "So Hard" and "Jealousy", the flipside of "Actually".

songs that inadvertently fitted with her and specifically her relationship to an earlier generation in the Tory party: Erasure's "Sometimes" and Alison Moyet's "Is This Love", the two songs by people from Basildon - Thatcher's heartland, and all that - which were in the Top 10 the week Harold Macmillan died, and Genesis' "Land of Confusion", also charting that week at the end of 1986 - lapsed public schoolboys with a title which summed up the position that Tories of Macmillan's ilk found themselves in at the height of Thatcherism.

robin carmody (robin carmody), Sunday, 19 October 2003 14:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Robin: don't forget McCartney's CONTROVERSIALLY TOPICAL cover of 'All My Trials' (late 1989/1990?), which seemed never to touch the UK charts.

the pinefox, Sunday, 19 October 2003 14:54 (twenty-one years ago)

For years I thought the Undertones were singing "Dressed like Thatcher must be living in a different world . . ."

Johnney B (Johnney B), Sunday, 19 October 2003 15:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Reynard - I remember McCartney talking about that on "Going Live!" of all things ... it was late 1990, just after Thatcher's downfall, and he made no secret of his loathing of her social policies which he was using the song to express. It did, I think, scrape the lower reaches of the Top 40 - number 35, I think.

of course McCartney's knighthood came in the last Tory honours list (New Year 1997), which I remain convinced was a spoiler - Major knew that Blair would be taking over from him, and he'd probably got wind that Blair intended to reinforce the sense of a continuum with the Wilson government, and the MBEs it gave the Beatles in 1965, by knighting McCartney. thankfully the 1995 rumours that the Major government would give knighthoods to *all* the surviving Beatles (Sir Ringo would have been ridiculous, IMHO), doubtless another doomed attempt at Blair-spoiling, never came to anything.

robin carmody (robin carmody), Sunday, 19 October 2003 16:49 (twenty-one years ago)

surely there's some Tackhead that samples or mentions Thatcher?

I'd recommend "The Game", which has a Thatcher impersonator bitching about how raucous Tackhead is, if the song itself wasn't so incredibly embarrassing compared to the other stuff they did around the time.

donut bitch (donut), Sunday, 19 October 2003 17:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Echo and the Bunnymen's 'Life at Brian's' EP thing had a bloke explaining why he'd voted for Mrs Thatcher playing over the sitar introduction bit to 'All You Need Is Love', but when it was reissued on the box set, said bloke had been removed. The reason given was that Arthur Scargill had caused the price of coal to rise, thus making a dent in his auntie's finances.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Sunday, 19 October 2003 19:46 (twenty-one years ago)

tackhead "hard left" samples thatcher

the surface noise (electricsound), Monday, 20 October 2003 05:38 (twenty-one years ago)

But what reason was given for the removal of Said Bloke?

the coalfox, Monday, 20 October 2003 08:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Robin - what was #1 for the 79 election? was it 'are "friends" electric'?

Enrique (Enrique), Monday, 20 October 2003 08:45 (twenty-one years ago)

no - it was Art Garfunkel's "Bright Eyes", which I'm sure was used over footage of Callaghan leaving number 10 (clearly emphasising "how can the light that once burnt so brightly suddenly burn so pale?" as an analogy for that era of the Labour Party) in a BBC2 documentary c.1995. "Bright Eyes" was, of course, written by the man behind the Tory campaign song of 2001 (and, as Tom said, possibly 1983 as well) - Mike Batt.

"Are 'Friends' Electric?" was a couple of months later.

robin carmody (robin carmody), Monday, 20 October 2003 11:51 (twenty-one years ago)

http://rarara.v21hosting.co.uk/photos/newtoriesnewdanger.jpg

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 20 October 2003 17:55 (twenty-one years ago)

two years pass...
Check out www.maggiethatcher.com for more answersw

maggie, Friday, 9 December 2005 09:50 (nineteen years ago)

there must be a carter usm song or 17 about the old bint, surely.

emsk ( emsk), Friday, 9 December 2005 10:11 (nineteen years ago)

Mekons - Vengeance

and everything else they recorded in the 1980s, obliquely at least.

A|ex P@reene (Pareene), Friday, 9 December 2005 23:45 (nineteen years ago)


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