Vast Aire - "They Frontin' (We Made You)"

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In what weird universe does a guy aligned with Def Jux go around saying "fuck nerd rap"?

(Great song, but it just seems weird to take that angle on VA's part.)

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Saturday, 18 October 2003 05:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Eep! Haven't heard this yet. Who's on the boards?

rob geary (rgeary), Saturday, 18 October 2003 06:20 (twenty-two years ago)

"Fuck nerd rap" = the ideal sentiment for anyone on DefJux, really

rob geary (rgeary), Saturday, 18 October 2003 06:21 (twenty-two years ago)

i haven't heard it, but are you sure he doesn't mean n*e*r*d rap?

mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Saturday, 18 October 2003 09:21 (twenty-two years ago)

i believe the 'fuck nerd rap' part is in keeping with the 7L and esoteric disses in the track (which is over nas' "made you look").

your null fame (yournullfame), Saturday, 18 October 2003 10:07 (twenty-two years ago)

"fuck esoteric - fuck nerd rap!"

and then there's this - http://www.soundclick.com/bands/2/h1phopmusic.htm (esoteric disses elp & all def jux)

where esoteric disses def jux and also says "fuck nerd rap." has this been going on for a while?

your null fame (yournullfame), Saturday, 18 October 2003 10:20 (twenty-two years ago)

that Esoteric track is hilarious.

Al (sitcom), Saturday, 18 October 2003 14:27 (twenty-two years ago)

http://sandbox.pair.com/abstract/vastairedirty.html has a RM of They Frontin'.

I think this could be the best battle ever.

"Nerd!"
"Geek!"
"Four-Eyes!"

miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Saturday, 18 October 2003 16:06 (twenty-two years ago)

7L and Esoteric have a bunch of gall calling people nerds

I sort of figured the "nerd" stuff Def Jux was into was things like Blade Runner and Akira and Kirby comix and other things that cross the nerd/cool divide. But "smart" = nerd too, I guess.

nate detritus (natedetritus), Saturday, 18 October 2003 16:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Vast Aire has fallen off in a rapid, flamboyant manner. I thought of him as among the best rappers in the underground after The Cold Vein but after a couple of guest verses and this mixtape of just him poorly freestyling over commercial beats, I don't think I even like him anymore.

"Ever since I came from the womb, I ran from the moon/ Niggas can't do shit, so I hit them with spoons/ And I hit them with straws"

Fuck. He's so bad at freestyling. It's painful.

And as for all that, Def Jux/Eastern Conference Records has been beefing with 7L and Esoteric. I can't remember why Def Jux got dragged into it, but El-P's verse on Bazooka Tooth from "We're Famous" addresses it all, most importantly that he intially rejected Esoteric's demo. And it's a stellar song all around.

7L and Esoteric, their diss, the best part is after they rap, the commercial, it's hilarious.

In the nerd rap debate, I see Def Jux as the nerds that cool people associate with to get their test answers, while 7L and Esoteric are the nerds that no one will admit listening to.

Rollie Pemberton (Rollie Pemberton), Saturday, 18 October 2003 17:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Def Jux:Devo::7L/Esoteric:They Might Be Giants

nate detritus (natedetritus), Saturday, 18 October 2003 19:03 (twenty-two years ago)

And yeah, what the fuck happened to Vast? He's pretty good on the upcoming Diverse record but other than that it's a blur of "this guy did 'Scream Phoenix'?"

nate detritus (natedetritus), Saturday, 18 October 2003 19:06 (twenty-two years ago)

7L and Esoteric, their diss, the best part is after they rap, the commercial, it's hilarious.

it is really funny. and i'd have to side with def jux any day of the week.

your null fame (yournullfame), Saturday, 18 October 2003 20:36 (twenty-two years ago)

six months pass...
if you dont like vast then you really dont understand the concept of hip hop music, the man is a lyrical genius, very conceptual, and can blow any mc out the mothafuckin water...........what!

bobby buff, Thursday, 6 May 2004 12:00 (twenty-one years ago)

three weeks pass...
first 7L and esoteric suck, 7L throws ddown some hot beats but eso skillz are weak compared to any one on Def Jux.

Anyone saying Vast Aire isn't sick, you're a moron. He's all about mixing references and if you don't get each of the references, you won't understand vast. Just like Aesop - references!

"Ever since I came from the womb, I ran from the moon/ Niggas can't do shit, so I hit them with spoons." - the reference is from the american childhood story when the fork ran off with the spoon and jumped over the moon. It wasn't the most precise flow, but atleast a clever reference.

Lyden, 'bridge city, Wednesday, 2 June 2004 15:58 (twenty-one years ago)

woo-hoo references.

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 16:23 (twenty-one years ago)

nothing like hitting the clubs and spending a wild night getting referencces!

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 2 June 2004 16:23 (twenty-one years ago)

vast aire is amazing.. i cant stand all this bs rap that has no meaning.. alomst everything vast says has some lyrical references. and as for the clubs.. FUCK THAT.. vast is real shit.. no lil john... COP THE NEW VAST AIRE ALBUM IS FUCKING RAW

aEsoP rock, Wednesday, 9 June 2004 16:30 (twenty-one years ago)


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