miles davis bootlegs - s/d

http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/fridayreview/story/0,12102,1064093,00.html

What I Say, vols. 1 and 2 (vol. 1 especially). Stuff from 1970 and (mostly) 1971. The only recording I've ever heard from when Leon Ndugu Chancler was the drummer.

More Live Evil. Recorded March 1973 in Japan. Dave Liebman takes an incredible solo midway through the first (44-minute) track on Disc 2 that sounds more like an electric violin than a soprano saxophone.

My favorite stuff, of which there is plenty, is of the '64 band tour, or even right before Wayne Shorter joined, with George Coleman or Sam Rivers. A lot of standards played lightning fast. A lot of this stuff is legitimately documented like Four and More/My Funny Valentine or Complete Plugged Nickel. There are also several live recordings of dubious sound quality (close enough to bootlegs, although released by some 'label') but nasty playing like Cote Blues, Miles in Tokyo, Miles in Antibes, Davisiana, Live in Paris.

Did Sonny Sharock play live w/ Miles in the '70s, and are there recordings?

No. Sharrock only appeared on one recording session in Feb. 1970, which is documented on the Complete Jack Johnson Sessions box.

You might also want to check out It's About That Time, a legit release from a couple of years ago with the 'lost quintet' (Dave Holland, Chick Corea, Jack DeJohnette, Wayne Shorter, + Airto). It's basically his first electric band performances, it sounds like a bootleg and is really raw and intense (more inclined to free-jazz bashing than some of the later bands that stuck to more defined grooves).

Some live miles for dl here
http://www.bigozine2.com/archive/ARrarities07/ARmdbrooklyn.html
http://www.bigozine2.com/archive/ARrarities07/ARmdbirdland.html

^my hero

http://www.wolfgangsvault.com/miles-davis/video/spanish-key_-2123015597.html?utm_source=NL&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=110720video

i'm currently downloading the 74 shaboo inn sets
heyyy could anyone hook me up with these? heyyy.

Really good Miles bootlegs:

/What I Say/, vols. 1 and 2 (vol. 1 especially). Stuff from 1970 and (mostly) 1971. The only recording I've ever heard from when Leon Ndugu Chancler was the drummer.

/More Live Evil./ Recorded March 1973 in Japan. Dave Liebman takes an incredible solo midway through the first (44-minute) track on Disc 2 that sounds more like an electric violin than a soprano saxophone.

I just picked up Another Bitches Brew- Two Concerts in Belgrade. Like the above-mentioned What I Say, the first disc features Ndugu. Great, very interesting lineup. Jarrett, Bartz, Henderson, Chancler, Mtume, and Don Alias. No guitars. Very cool sound- more open then most of the live 70s recordings.

And Like More Live Evil, it also features a very violin-sounding sax solo, although this one is Bartz, not Leibman.

And the whole thing, both discs, is great. Very good sound. Definitely recommended if you're into live 70s Miles.

just discovered that there are quite a lot of early 70s & elsewhen boots by him up on Dime. Was hoping I'd be able to get my older collection reclaimed but drive it was on wasn't even recognised by my computer when I had it in my computer's spare drive slot. Shame, had Sun RA & Beefheart in that drive too. Plus a massive amount of Miles' work throughout the Columbia period.

What's Dime? This? http://www.dimeadozen.org/

That's right, I noticed an another interesting Miles recording went up there yesterday. I do love that site.

Miles Davis Quintet
Harmon Gymnasium, University of California, Berkeley CA
1967-04-07
KALX Radio broadcast

Miles Davis (tpt)
Wayne Shorter (ts)
Herbie Hancock (p)
Albert Stinson (b)
Tony Williams (d)

Tracklist:

00 Radio Host Intro (0:13)
01 Gingerbread Boy (9:05)
02 Stella by Starlight (10:14)
03 Dolores (7:09)
04 Round Midnight (9:43)
05 So What (8:50) °°° flaws at 4:51 and 6:37 left untouched
06 Walkin' (9:00)
07 The Theme (0:33)
08 Radio Host Outro (0:26) °°° included from jkeisers version (cut off in jazzcdburner copy)

Oh, and also a Rahsaan Roland Kirk Quartet recording from the Village Vanguard on Christmas day 1969!

Berlin '73 is a motherfucker.

Just scored a live version of Aura from '84 which is very boss

xpost is that the Nov 1 1973 Berlin you're talkin bout?

Indeed. Some heavy superdistorted Miles wah trumpet on that. It sounds like he's in your ear canal.

Yeah that's the one that has a bunch of long clips on YT. I cannot recall for the life of me whether or not I have that one - will score if not on your recommend.

When I get back home I'll have to see if there are any I can vouch for - anything from 1967 is tops in my book

I think Berlin '73 was still up on Dime when i looked yesterday, probably in both audio and dvd form.

There's also things from Paris, Tokyo, and a few places across the US. Oh & Montreux, though that could really do with a solo release instead of being the 1st disc of a large boxset. Unless it already has been, though I'd heard some word about that being projected a while back.
& that's all just '73 there are quite a few others too.

The majority of the montreux box is quite good if you can get past the 80s synth/guitar sounds and the occasional wind chime. It took work, but I got past them. Now I love all the 80s discs that feature Al Foster or Ricky Wellman. The 3 or 4 discs with Vince Willburn mostly suck, and I don't care for the 1991 show. But that leaves about 15 discs of very good, fairly complex, interesting, muscular, and yet largely feel-good dance music. Which is a neat trick as far as I'm concerned.

Oh, and also a Rahsaan Roland Kirk Quartet recording from the Village Vanguard on Christmas day 1969!

― MaresNest, Tuesday, 18 December 2012 19:19 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

how is this?

I agree - I've said more than once that the Montreux concerts should really be issued as individual 2CD sets, because if people heard those bands in action, they'd have a totally different idea of what Miles was up to in the '80s.

Absolutely. And to further your point about "what Miles was up to in the 80s," it bears pointing out that playing live took much more of his time (and based on the recorded evidence, I dare say it took much more of his creative energy too) than making albums did. There's no question in my mind that Miles' primarily concern in the 80s was doing the things that can only happen when people who know their shit play in real time for people in the same room.

By the way, it seems to me that the Montreux box ought to have its own thread. I can't find one. Thoughts?

I delivered an EMP paper about Miles in the '80s this year. It talks mostly about the studio work, none of which has gotten the same lavish reissue treatment as the 1960s and 1970s albums.

I didn't realize who I was conversing with. I really enjoyed your Miles book. I look forward to checking out the paper. I take it you appreciate the 80s studio stuff more than I do?

Some of it, not all of it by any means. The one album from that era that I genuinely love is Tutu, 'cause it's just so robotic and inhuman. And I revisited You're Under Arrest when I was writing that paper, and found a lot to like on that one, too. But Star People and Decoy are pretty weak.

yeah, that emp paper had me listening to a bunch of 80s miles, i've come around on a lot of it. tho yeah, i couldn't make it through star people. the live around the world disc is what i reach for most when it comes to this era. and heyyyy, since y'all are miles bootleg aficionados, i'll gently repeat my request to be hooked up w/ that shaboo inn 74 set, if anyone's got it? maybe? i mean, listen to this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyE2ypmG_Kk

I've never heard that bootleg, but that band was possibly at its most metallic in 1974 - compare Dark Magus to Agharta and you'll know exactly what I mean. So I'm definitely interested in hearing it myself.

yeah, it sounds very magus-y. cool that the crowd sounds pretty into it. at least a few of them.

I quite like Star People. Not as much as I love We Want Miles and Miles, Miles, Miles, but I feel that it's basically in the same vein.

XP - I'm pretty sure I have the Shaboo recording somewhere, in two parts iirc. Will organise something over the next day or so.

Also Schlump, that Rashaan recording has disappeared from the tracker, so either it has been officially released in part or it was found to be lossy.

not the same show, but a pretty happening rashaan gig is over here: http://infinitefool.blogspot.com/2012/11/his-house-had-lions.html

except it looks like the link is down for the moment.

By the way Killed In Cars has reupped the 1969 Lost Quintets, the 1970 Fillmores, and the 1975 Tree - sound quality varies

Just got the Miles Davis Bootleg Series Vol. 2 - four European shows from 1969 - in the mail. I already had the show on Disc 1, but the other three are new to me. Definitely looking forward to watching the DVD.

nice, looking forward to that one. those killed in cars things are pretty awesome, tho i'd be lying if i said i'd listened to all of them.

oh yeah i'm listening to this right now and it's super amazing

shorter's solos are all differently shaped monsters

Really hope there are further volumes - would love for #3 to be the 1971 band with Gary Bartz, Keith Jarrett, Michael Henderson, Ndugu Leon Chancler (substitute drummer for one European tour only), Don Alias and Mtume.

Nice, that prompted me to dig out my Belgrade 1971. Has Columbia ever really cared about the seventies stuff, Corner box aside? Tho if they did do a 70s bootleg vol I'd bet on 1973 as there's so much decently recorded material.

I'd love it if they'd do one volume for every other year - a 1971 set from that European tour, a 1973 set, and a 1975 set containing the other Japanese shows from the Agharta/Pangaea tour...

yeah this new bootleg series is pretty rad. cool to hear corea playing aggressively -- at least for him.

I get the feeling that Columbia isn't really into the seventies that much, it took a long time for Corner to get enough cred that a box became possible ... who knows, we may get a 1975 Japan box someday, there's five nights of good recordings there including Agharta/Pangaea. So if they skip those that's a 3CD set at least, which would be aaaaawesome.

No, the Seventies stuff has definitely been getting more love from Sony the last few years. Now, the Eighties material is another matter; there's some studio albums from that period that have never been on CD in the US (Star People is import only and always has been).

Well yeah but I was comparing to the fifties and sixties really - there isn't as much product to push and it's not as popular as say anything with Coltrane. When I was first getting into Miles the seventies stuff seemed so brutal it took me a long time to get into it. I can only imagine what a fifties Miles head would think going straight into Dark Magus.

Agreed that an eighties box would be cool ... but there already was one, The Last Word, which got cancelled right after they made promos for it. And this was *Rhino* cancelling this who is in the business of small runs. So the market's not really there in the States (they did do a 2CD Tutu recently though! The second disc is just a live gig but still.)

All I'm saying is it seems like slooooooowly more 70s stuff is coming out officially, so there's hope for more 70s boxes. It's a long wait because not that many people care compared to people who'll buy another anniversary edition of KoB. It's all good because we don't care, we just want more stuff issued. I want the 75 Japan box to come out in a 2001-style black ultradense slab which will crush any coffee table it's put on.

But I'm reading into what you're saying an argument that you're not trying to make. Yep, 80s stuff is definitely not being pressed and I don't mind because a lot of that stuff is weak (I like live shows from 83 though)

i have a real affection for the '80s stuff

THere was a series of remastered live sets put out in'97 which was '69-'73 and I think covered a few titles that hadn't made it to cd outside of Japan before.
Also nicely cut up sidelong performances into individual tracks which helped when I was djing.

Thought it odd that they didn't cover the Agharta/Pangaea material at the time, but I did get Dark Magus out of it.

bootleg or not, search Miles live from '68? I see a lot of '67 and '69, but much less from in between (which seems like a particularly interesting time to hear)

Currently listening to a bootleg on youtube from December '68 at a Boston jazz workshop: Miles, Shorter, Corea, Wynton Kelly, Dave Holland, playing mostly old stuff (So What, Round Midnight, Walkin, but also Agitation, Directions)

I'd been wondering about that, too. The main Miles sessionography site only lists that Boston show. Surely he toured during that year, or at least had a residency or two?

seems like at least part of it would be that he didn't play in europe in '68 (that I know of) and they were better at documenting this stuff ... he probably played at least some shows in the US in '68.

I remember reading that there was a quintet + gil evans show in the bay area, which would be interesting to hear.

that boston 68 show is great though -- think that's the last time Miles played live with Tony Williams?

here's a little info from http://www.plosin.com/milesahead/Sessions.aspx?d=6

February 16, 1968
After this the Quintet resumed touring: Village Gate, New York (February 16-17); Bohemian Caverns, Washington (February 28-March 2: a review suggests that "Paul Chambers has rejoined the quintet"); Village Gate (March 8-9). The Quintet (with Marshall Hawkins subbing for Carter) headed west for two weeks at Shelly's Manne-Hole, Los Angeles (March 19-31), and an engagement at the Both/And Club, San Francisco (early April). During this time they also performed at the University of California Jazz Festival at the Greek Theater, Berkeley (April 19). They were joined on several numbers by a variation on this version of the Evans Orchestra. The concert may have been recorded by Columbia, but so far it has not surfaced. According to Jan Lohmann, the Quintet performed "Agitation," "Footprints," "'Round Midnight," "Nefertiti," and "Gingerbread Boy," and were joined by the Evans Orchestra for three numbers: an unknown title, "You Make Me Feel Like a Natural Woman," and "Antigua." After a return to New York, the Quintet played at the Guthrie Theatre in Minneapolis (May 26).

June 21st, 1968
This is Carter's last session with the Davis Quintet. Miroslav Vitous replaced him for a week at the Village Gate (July 16-28), but Carter was apparently back for the Laurel Jazz Festival (August 2). Dave Holland replaced him in mid-August, in time for a one-week engagement at Count Basie's Club in New York. Chick Corea replaced Hancock by the time the Quintet played a week at Peyton Place, Baltimore (September 17-22). The new Quintet returned to Columbia Studios on September 24, then went back on the road: Chicago's Plugged Nickel Club (September 25-29), Royce Hall on the UCLA campus (October 5), Las Lomas High School Auditorium, Walnut Creek (October 6), San Francisco's Both/And Club (October 8-20), Shelly's Manne-Hole (October 22-November 3).

"You Make Me Feel Like a Natural Woman" !!!!

very cool info, thanks Tyler. All those subs tho -- makes me wonder if live shows haven't surfaced because the shows were all so transitional in nature

I had no idea that so much of this stuff had official releases, anyone want to give me a POX? I have some already like that amazing June '73 Tokyo show.

coupla good ones to grab at big o :
http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=3198
http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=2947
http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=2247
http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=1921
http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=1277

nice, thanks

All those subs tho -- makes me wonder if live shows haven't surfaced because the shows were all so transitional in nature

Supposedly, Ron Carter didn't like to travel, so Miles would often use other bassists for live dates. I don't know when that practice started, but I have a '66 boot from Portland, OR with Richard Davis on bass (who is, unfortunately, barely audible). It seems limited to US dates, as Carter didn't seem to have a sub for the European tours.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7zBmDSSwZk

31 minutes in what the fuck is Trane doing

it sounds like he's playing the saxophone

(sorry)

Must be a name for those slurry licks. Agree that it's awesome.

Multiphonics, I believe?

He built a composition around that approach, in 1959:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH_EVlriMYs

Very cool, thanks for posting.