Judgement Night OST- classic/dud?

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Once upon a time, I thought this was the very essence of great music.

adaml (adaml), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Haven't heard it in forever, but I bet it doesn't age well. I loved it, but I also thought the Anthrax version of Bring the Noise was great, and I heard it again the other day in a video game I was playing and was struck by how fucking clunky and awful it was as compared to PE's original. Also, whoever let Scott Ian rap should have been arrested by the proper authorities (like Professor Griff!)

Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 18:50 (twenty-two years ago)

The Del the Funky Homosapien/Dinosaur Jr. track is still fucking wonderful. I'm not sure about the rest of the thing.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 19:14 (twenty-two years ago)

What about De La/Teenage Fanclub?

The Sonic Youth/Cypress Hill thing is just unforgivable though, both bands reduced to absolute caricatures of whatever it is that made them popular.

adaml (adaml), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 20:14 (twenty-two years ago)

I actually listened to that album again a months ago. Surprised that I really enjoyed Biohazard/Onyx (and I usually hate Biohazard!), FNM/Boo Ya, Fanclub/De La and Helmet/House of Pain. The rest have either dated very badly (Dinosaur/Del), or were atrocious to begin with (Slayer/Ice-T, SY/Cypress Hill).

If such an album would be made today, what would the tracklist be? Obviously, hardcore and grunge will have to be replaced by nu-metal and, uh, neo-grunge. Bonecrusher and DMX should fit the bill too...

Siegbran (eofor), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 20:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Garage rock and UK garage!

Von Bondies/Dizzee would be, errrrr, interesting.

adaml (adaml), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 20:29 (twenty-two years ago)

Something jogged my memory about Judgement Night, so after a little digging on AMG, I found out that the guy who organized Judgement Night also did the OSTs for Spawn and Blade II, which kinda used the same who-put-your-chocolate-in-my-peanut-butter thing but with nu-metal and electronica acts (Spawn) and then rappers with electronica acts (Blade II)....I remember kinda liking the Filter song on the Spawn soundtrack when I saw it once on MTV, but I've never heard either....some interesting combos though, (DJ Spooky and Metallica remix of For Whom The Bell Tolls), and I'd like to hear it. Anybody familiar with it?

Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 20:48 (twenty-two years ago)

The Del/Dinosaur JNr song is still hellishly good

scottjames23 (worrysome-man), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 21:37 (twenty-two years ago)

an abomination...
that compilation may have caught the ears of limp/linkin etc, and now we're paying in a big way.

paulhw (paulhw), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 23:54 (twenty-two years ago)

I'd say that's a fair assessment.

adaml (adaml), Tuesday, 21 October 2003 23:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Unlike just about every other human on the planet, I only know these songs from what I've heard when I saw the MOVIE (not worth seeing, trust me) last year. Most of what I heard was pretty boring, but I dug the opening theme from De La Soul and Teenage Fanclub.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 00:02 (twenty-two years ago)

i like the Cypress Hill/Sonic Youth duet. sure, the lyrics are a bit sophomorish, but the music is really good. I'd buy an album that has music like this.

King Kobra (King Kobra), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 03:14 (twenty-two years ago)

The DJ Spooky/Metallica combo is atrocious. They bring out the worst in each other, and I say that as someone who once liked Metallica and can tolerate DJ Spooky, especially when he decides to tone down the academia on his collabos. Never heard the rest of the Spawn thing but I do remember thinking it was basically Judgment Night Soundtrack II- glad to hear it was the same person. Blade II offered at least one great track, Mos Def and Massive Attack doing "I Against I." Never heard the rest of either.

Freakishly, I was just *yesterday* singing the Faith No More/Boo Ya TRIBE tune, and I don't even remember what it was called. It must be 7-8 years since I heard this?

rob geary (rgeary), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 04:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Ha ha, Matt H. Professor Griff and the S1W's should be allowed to "detain" all nu-metal chump rappers.

rob geary (rgeary), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 04:19 (twenty-two years ago)

My prediction=No women will post to this thread.

adaml (adaml), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 04:19 (twenty-two years ago)

But then that's ILM for you, isn't it? ;)

adaml (adaml), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 04:20 (twenty-two years ago)

How do you know I'm not a woman, "Nordicskillz?"

rob geary (rgeary), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 04:25 (twenty-two years ago)

i 2d what matt said upthread. def. nineties artifact -- which means that we should come back 10 years from now and see if our views have changed again & we like it (in a "pining for our youths" kinda way). that's the way it works, innit?

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 04:26 (twenty-two years ago)

How do you know I'm not a woman, "Nordicskillz?"

how do we know yer not Pete Townshend?

Little Big Macher (llamasfur), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 04:27 (twenty-two years ago)


How do you know I'm not a woman, "Nordicskillz?"

Oh sorry, "Roberta".

adaml (adaml), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 04:28 (twenty-two years ago)

No problem, Adamina.

rob geary (rgeary), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 04:28 (twenty-two years ago)


didn't blade II have roni size and was it cypress hill? that was jist ok if i remember correctly. but i might not.

gallantseagull, Wednesday, 22 October 2003 04:56 (twenty-two years ago)

This thread gives me major deja vu.

oops (Oops), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 05:01 (twenty-two years ago)

It made me think about cassette tapes again.

rob geary (rgeary), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 05:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I had the cd. you prole.

oops (Oops), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 05:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Heh, and I borrowed it

rob geary (rgeary), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 05:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Best track on Judgement Night was the collab between Mudhoney and Sir Mix-A-Lot, and I can't believe no one else mentioned it.

Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 10:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I remember thinking this was kind of underwhelming at the time. I guess it was a good idea, if you think nu-metal was a good idea. Also, how is this album made without the Chili Peppers, Beastie Boys or Fishbone?

dleone (dleone), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 11:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Liked it --- or believed I did -- at the time. Hasn't aged well at all. Best song is invariably the Sir Mix-a-Lot/Mudhoney track. "Just Another Victim" by Helmet/House of Pain (Helmet of Pain?) sounds clunky and awkward.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 11:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Nu-metal was a good idea, if only because it gave us the first five tracks on Slipknot's (Roadrunner) debut, and the Deftones' White Pony.

Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 12:46 (twenty-two years ago)

"Trapped in the rapture! the black disaster! Fuckin wanna raise hell and make the white man call me master!" I loved this when it came out. The Onyx/Biohazard thing was large with my little circle of friends in 8th grade.

I owned the Spawn soundtrack and maybe played it twice. It's terrible. Most of the metal bands have barely been altered at all except for the odd skitter skitter thump. I remember liking the Soul Coughing/Roni Size collabo though. The Blade 2 soundtrack is just an absolute pile of shit except for the aforementioned Mos Def/Massive Attack collab. The rest of it is just preexisting raps clumsily protooled over dinky little big beat tracks. Fatboy Slim totally neuters Eve. It blows.

Tom Breihan (Tom Breihan), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 13:27 (twenty-two years ago)

SO THAT'S WHERE THAT RONI SIZE/SOUL COUGHING TRACK CAME FROM MUAHAHAHA ALL IS CLEAR NOW

nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 13:28 (twenty-two years ago)

I remember this album as the moment when Faith No More and B.O.O.Y.A.A. Tribe finally joined forces.

NA (Nick A.), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 13:30 (twenty-two years ago)

I like how Mike Patton sings on that track (shockah!).

nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 13:34 (twenty-two years ago)

And consider also the singularly dud Judgement Night-type combos which followed it, such as Ice Cube and Korn. Now that SUCKED!

Is the Metallica/Ja Rule song as bad as I imagine too?

M Carty (mj_c), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 13:58 (twenty-two years ago)

It's even worse.

Siegbran (eofor), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 14:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Get it, it will blow your mind with it's wrong-headedness

rob geary (rgeary), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 16:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Helmet and House of Pain ownz. "I built the House
I felt the Pain "

Chris V. (Chris V), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 17:04 (twenty-two years ago)

The NJ metal station WSOU used to play just about every song on this thing the year it came out. I was just looking at the track listing, and I remember a lot of these songs pretty well. (The Living Colour/Run-DMC one isn't terrible.)

Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 17:51 (twenty-two years ago)

three years pass...

10 years ahead of the Gorillaz in the paring of 90's britpop icons and respected but need a career boost rappers.

If you looked at the gorillaz DNA under a microscope, you would see the dinosaur Jr /Del & Teenage fanclub / De LA tracks.

the spawn soundtrack is like drinking cold sick, though.

Hamildan, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 15:01 (eighteen years ago)

the spawn ost is nothing short of woeful

most of the artists aren't particularly good in the first place, and the songs they coughed out are below par even by their own low standards.

Charlie Howard, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 15:16 (eighteen years ago)

nonsense. that apollo 440 & morphine track is fucking great.

, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 15:42 (eighteen years ago)

it's funny how the soundtrack gimmick is now the sole legacy that the movie Judgement Night is remembered for. who was in it, again? Emilio Estevez I think?

Alex in Baltimore, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 16:58 (eighteen years ago)

Cuba Gooding maybe?

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 17:03 (eighteen years ago)

Dennis Leary. yes people... it's <i> that </i> edgy.

Hamildan, Wednesday, 13 June 2007 20:27 (eighteen years ago)

wasn't everlast in that as denis leary's henchman? i recall that being the first movie i saw someone hold a gun in the retarded sideways fashion

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Thursday, 14 June 2007 03:49 (eighteen years ago)

...which would result in the ejected shells shooting back at your face.

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Thursday, 14 June 2007 03:50 (eighteen years ago)

t/s: "judgement night" vs "trespass" (the films, not the OSTs)

moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 14 June 2007 05:57 (eighteen years ago)

my gut says trespass, but my near complete lack of memory of either film says, "uhhhh?"

GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ, Thursday, 14 June 2007 06:19 (eighteen years ago)

the spawn ost is nothing short of woeful

agreed, but the slayer/atari teenage riot track is grate

latebloomer, Thursday, 14 June 2007 06:42 (eighteen years ago)

hahaha

no remorse i wanna die!

Charlie Howard, Thursday, 14 June 2007 06:49 (eighteen years ago)

i used that on so many mixtapes it's not funny

latebloomer, Thursday, 14 June 2007 06:50 (eighteen years ago)

i used that on so many mixtapes it's not funny

-- latebloomer, Thursday, 14 June 2007 06:50 (5 hours ago) Link

Me too, with the Mix-a-Lot/Mudhoney track on Judgment Night. The perfect segueway from grunge to hip-hop or vice versa.

Jake Brown, Thursday, 14 June 2007 12:45 (eighteen years ago)

I rather like "Crystal Fist" by Tom Morello/Prodigy off the Spawn OST.

Trayce, Thursday, 14 June 2007 13:11 (eighteen years ago)

Oh man before I look I'm just going to go ahead and predict I have ill advised posts all over this thread.

nickalicious, Thursday, 14 June 2007 13:59 (eighteen years ago)

Oh hey not as embarassing as I'd thought. At one point I thought of allocating this and other movies on my hard drive at home to a "bad-ass super RV sub-plot" file with Stripes and, I don't know, some others.

nickalicious, Thursday, 14 June 2007 14:01 (eighteen years ago)

five years pass...

taking from pitchfork's five essential dino jr. clips today
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=SZ0CB7d6UdQ

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 20 September 2012 20:49 (thirteen years ago)

mainly posted for arsenio's intro

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 20 September 2012 20:55 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7crH44lXFUo

canonical casual cordouroy (Eazy), Thursday, 20 September 2012 21:06 (thirteen years ago)

five years pass...

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/judgment-night-soundtrack-oral-history-1993-rap-rock-summit-722094/

5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 13 September 2018 15:00 (seven years ago)

classic also holy shit thanks for posting that whiney

princess of hell (BradNelson), Thursday, 13 September 2018 15:06 (seven years ago)

Classic. Especially Another Body Murdered.

Will read later. Thanks for the link.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Thursday, 13 September 2018 15:57 (seven years ago)

Metallica said no. They were super pure and prissy in those days. See, in those days they were like the shit, the shit, right? They’ve obviously aged, and probably wish they would’ve done it.

I love the idea that Metallica are sitting around regretting not being on the Judgement Night soundtrack.

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 13 September 2018 22:17 (seven years ago)

^^Why Newstead quit, iirc.

Ubering With The King (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 13 September 2018 22:20 (seven years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqM3Z3rWlAI

5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 13 September 2018 22:51 (seven years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIf1uMZ7WRw

5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 13 September 2018 22:55 (seven years ago)

chinaski otm

the late great, Thursday, 13 September 2018 22:55 (seven years ago)

8:15 in that video XD

5th Ward Weeaboo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 13 September 2018 23:03 (seven years ago)

At the time it came out I did a pig piece for Creem ambitiously attempting to get a quote or three from every band involved. If memory serves I got all but but Pearl Jam who didn't do much press at the time.

I also believe I still have an advance cassette which I was told had some samples they couldn't get clearance for so it is different from the actual release.

In other news, that record was really fun!

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Friday, 14 September 2018 05:53 (seven years ago)

That's a big piece, not a pig piece.

2 AM posting, woo!

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Friday, 14 September 2018 05:56 (seven years ago)

two years pass...

you played yourself

so tonight that I might ramona quimby (f. hazel), Friday, 26 March 2021 17:28 (four years ago)

six months pass...

Just lost my street credibility, y'all.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Saturday, 23 October 2021 18:42 (four years ago)

one year passes...

Latest episode of Bandsplain: https://www.theringer.com/2023/6/15/23761935/judgment-night-soundtrack-with-sean-fennessey-and-rob-harvilla

Stars of the Lidl (Chinaski), Friday, 16 June 2023 22:25 (two years ago)

Here's something weird: the album is on streaming services, but the fifth track, "Disorder" (Slayer and Ice-T doing a medley of Exploited songs), is missing. But it's available for streaming as part of the Slayer box set Soundtrack to the Apocalypse. Streaming rights issues are a mystery...

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 16 June 2023 22:50 (two years ago)

three months pass...

RSD Vinyl: https://recordstoreday.com/SpecialRelease/16322

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 01:20 (two years ago)

fun!

husked, tonal wails (irrational), Wednesday, 4 October 2023 15:10 (two years ago)

one year passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xa_FYSDeWxI

Maresn3st, Friday, 11 July 2025 17:56 (eight months ago)

\m/

also good to see stab master arson still into music irl

Nancy Makes Posts (sic), Friday, 11 July 2025 18:32 (eight months ago)


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