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I want guitars on records to sound fake. What should I be listening to?

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 13:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Gowan - Criminal Mind (specially on the song "Strange Animal")

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 13:54 (twenty-two years ago)

I want sounds that don't come from guitars (and aren't samples of guitars) to emulate the sound or general role/effect of guitars. What should I be listening to?

Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 13:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I think its the guitar but it could be the fairlight, eitherway it sounds like he is rocking the worlds catchiest blender.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 13:55 (twenty-two years ago)

"Yoshimi vs the pink robots part 1" - the intro

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 13:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Manuel Göttsching - Inventions for Electric Guitar
(really!)

willem (willem), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 14:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Linkin Park

Siegbran (eofor), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 14:00 (twenty-two years ago)

what siegbran said: nu-metal is great for fake guitars.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 14:04 (twenty-two years ago)

"Plug It In" by Basement Jaxx, obv.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 14:10 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm still trying to work out whether or not there ARE guitars on Plug It In.

Surely every 80s record with fake sci-fi "bwow-wow" noises?

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 14:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Hmm...did you know that Spanishy guitar at the beginning of Beatles' "The Continuing Story of Bungalow Bill" was actually a Mellotron?

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 14:41 (twenty-two years ago)

A lot of pre-86 'indie' guitar bands went overboard with flangers,chorus etc. Check out mid-period Monochorme Set instrumentals.

Jez (Jez), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 15:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Nanase Aikawa's "Breakout!"

astroblaster (astroblaster), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 17:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Ringfinger by Nine Inch Nails. Machiney guitars. I like the bit where the guitar gets faster and faster and faster and FASTER!

David Merryweather (DavidM), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 17:26 (twenty-two years ago)

The Young Gods. Right?

john-paul, Wednesday, 22 October 2003 21:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Andrew WK

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 22:09 (twenty-two years ago)

My Bloody Valentine
KaitO (UK)

Ben Dot (1977), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 22:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Moby - "What Love" (the tragedy is that they're real guitars)

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 22 October 2003 22:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Aphex Twin - "Come To Daddy"

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 22 October 2003 22:57 (twenty-two years ago)

I was waiting for "Loveless" to come up.

Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 23:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Tico, do you want guitars to sound fake only, or would you also be interested in sythetic attempts to fake a guitar sound?

colin s barrow (colin s barrow), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 23:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Godley & Creme's Gizmo to thread

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 23:19 (twenty-two years ago)

I like this MBV story from David Cavanagh's "My Magpie Eyes are Hungry for the Prize":

"But as , Dave Anderson recalls, a key factor in the disembodied sound of Isn't Anything was a simple human error. Before setting out for Wales, the band had phoned ahead to ask Anderson to buy an Alesis MIDIverb, which had the reverse reverb programme Sheilds wanted. 'I went out and bought a MIDIverb,' says Anderson, 'not realising that there was a MIDIverb and a MIDIverb 1. I happened to buy the MIDIverb 1, which didn't have it. [The band] had all gone off to get something to eat, and I was sitting in the control room listening to the different effects [on the MIDIverb 1]. Kev came running in and said: "That's it! Thats it! That's my sound." I said "you can't use that - that's just the effects on the unit." He said: "No, no. This is it." There's no real guitar sounds on that album at all, it's purely the effects unit. Kev got me to erase all the actual guitars and just leave the effect. That's about as psychedelic as you're going to get.'"

Ben Dot (1977), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 23:31 (twenty-two years ago)

How I do love MBV. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 23:49 (twenty-two years ago)

There's no real guitar sounds on that album at all

hyperbole. but i'd believe that it's mostly correct.

the surface noise (electricsound), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 23:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Although Kevin Shields contends otherwise:

"The sound is purely physical. It's a movemeny, a manual movement of the strings: the short tarvel of the Jazzmaster and Jag[uar] trem[olo] that gives it that characteristic sort of upwards drone to the chord."

But then he would, wouldn't he?

Ben Dot (1977), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 23:57 (twenty-two years ago)

he's talking about loveless there... 2 very different eras for the band.

either he or belinda were playing a whammy pedal when i saw them on either the first or the second loveless tour.

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 23 October 2003 00:06 (twenty-two years ago)

(so they were cheating a little on the "no pedals, it's all in the tremolo (and the yamaha reverse reverb module)" claim)

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 23 October 2003 00:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Courtesy of guitargeek.com:

Gear setups for Kevin Shields and Bilinda Butcher

Ben Dot (1977), Thursday, 23 October 2003 00:22 (twenty-two years ago)

I was thinking T. Raumschiere as long as these fake-sounding guitars don't have to be real guitars.

Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 23 October 2003 01:49 (twenty-two years ago)

something with heaps of chorus pedal.

The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Thursday, 23 October 2003 02:11 (twenty-two years ago)

I am very much enjoying the wealth of suggestions. I was thinking though of real guitars doing traditional real-guitar things (chords, riffs, solos) but sounding fake, artificial, plastic, inorganic etc etc.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Thursday, 23 October 2003 06:31 (twenty-two years ago)

What about some of Robert Fripp's collabs with Eno? The guitar line from Bowie's "Heroes," for instance.

Jeremy (Jeremy), Thursday, 23 October 2003 06:42 (twenty-two years ago)

the Fuckhead cd on mego is great for that. like the young gods on 78 or something. skinny puppy's "tfwo"

bob snoom, Thursday, 23 October 2003 07:29 (twenty-two years ago)

For some reason, the Adrian Belew guitar solo on "Born under punches" (Talking Heads) springs to mind - it sounds like a guitar, but keeps veering off into strange areas.

Rob M (Rob M), Thursday, 23 October 2003 07:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Blondie's new album is stuffed to the gills with fake guitar sounds, synth-y sounding and chunky. Also-U2's "Numb" to thread.

Michael B, Thursday, 23 October 2003 08:02 (twenty-two years ago)

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/dre300/e379/e37955kanv0.jpg

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 23 October 2003 08:22 (twenty-two years ago)

How about Fripp's guitar on "Sky Saw" or anything from Brian Eno's Another Green World.

Mike Salmo (salmo), Thursday, 23 October 2003 18:50 (twenty-two years ago)

(Sounds like Fripp) Tones on Tail - Christian Says

dave225 (Dave225), Thursday, 23 October 2003 18:54 (twenty-two years ago)


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