Aggressive elements of underground experimental minimal rock/noise yet not as shy with melodies as some of their contemporaries. Great synth-y cluster-bloops performed with an energy seemingly imported from the more throbbing ft. thunder outfits (mindflayer).
Ian's giving Hair Police way too much lip service on their own thread while these guys impressed me much more.
What are your thoughts? Feelings?
― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 18:24 (twenty-two years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 18:31 (twenty-two years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 18:36 (twenty-two years ago)
― Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 19:07 (twenty-two years ago)
Hurlo is OTM in that they seem to be much more into really herky-jerky rhythms and grating-but-catchy melodies. Kind of like Deerhoof in that way, sans vocals. I suspect they listened to The Fall and Wire when Hair Police were listening to Whitehouse and Throbbing Gristle.
― Ian Johnson (orion), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 19:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 20:02 (twenty-two years ago)
― lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 21:30 (twenty-two years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 22:07 (twenty-two years ago)
― dleone (dleone), Thursday, 23 October 2003 00:53 (twenty-two years ago)
Better NYC bands include Coptic Light, Battles, Endless Boogie, The SB, Humecetant Interruption, etc., etc., yadda yadda yadda.
― hstencil, Thursday, 23 October 2003 01:30 (twenty-two years ago)
― hstencil, Thursday, 23 October 2003 01:31 (twenty-two years ago)
― lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 23 October 2003 02:08 (twenty-two years ago)
― hstencil, Thursday, 23 October 2003 02:13 (twenty-two years ago)
― lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 23 October 2003 02:53 (twenty-two years ago)
― hstencil, Thursday, 23 October 2003 02:56 (twenty-two years ago)
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 23 October 2003 03:01 (twenty-two years ago)
― hstencil, Thursday, 23 October 2003 03:05 (twenty-two years ago)
i love how lauren just totally writes off sightings... *sniff*
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 23 October 2003 04:39 (twenty-two years ago)
Really?
(gygax! I'm sending an email your way soon)
― adaml (adaml), Thursday, 23 October 2003 04:50 (twenty-two years ago)
― adaml (adaml), Thursday, 23 October 2003 04:53 (twenty-two years ago)
My friend Nate is like that too. He saw them do some improv thing and now he's all "eh, fuck sightings. they suck." BUT THEY DON'T!! AND HE COULD SEE THEM *ALLTHETIME*--first impressions. I've been kind of sad that I've lived here for a few months now and still haven't seen 'em. Saw em in Providence a long while back with Olneyville Sound System, and it was amazing.
― Ian Johnson (orion), Thursday, 23 October 2003 07:11 (twenty-two years ago)
ps- coptic light are goddawful. just sayin'.
― lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 23 October 2003 14:20 (twenty-two years ago)
― lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 23 October 2003 14:31 (twenty-two years ago)
Also, I guess I forgot Sightings, I do like them all right (although I'm not sure if I'll ever get around to buying anything by them). Another good NYC band (via LA): Young People.
Didn't know your true feelings on Coptic Light, lauren. I promise I won't tell Coach Winterberg!
― hstencil, Thursday, 23 October 2003 14:50 (twenty-two years ago)
― lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 23 October 2003 15:03 (twenty-two years ago)
When they're on, tho, Coptic Light can be like my favorite band ever.
― hstencil, Thursday, 23 October 2003 15:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dean Gulberry (deangulberry), Thursday, 23 October 2003 16:20 (twenty-two years ago)
A dude who lives in my dorm has a band that played with Coptic Light a few weeks ago. I went to see his band, who were decent, but Coptic Light were indeed pretty bad.
― Ian Johnson (orion), Thursday, 23 October 2003 16:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― hstencil, Thursday, 23 October 2003 16:37 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ian Johnson (orion), Thursday, 23 October 2003 16:59 (twenty-two years ago)
fmbb
about 3 years ago (after he moved to SF from RI)...
YOU MIGHT KNOW HIM AS BROWN FROM PINK AND BROWN.
but still, the don cab stuff i really don't hear wrt: P&L (liek who's the fripp-wannabe in P&L????), the drummer is totally ft. thunder-esque, ef awl ewe. aaron dub's cousin holds down the melodies naturally he's the focus of all the crit here. not to say y'all aren't free to disagree but hey, pick on someone your own age.
hstencil: gembaku onanies = "those whose orgasms via masturbation are comparable to an atomic bomb explosion replete with mushroom cloud sprouting from the loins". the first hardcore band from japan. go see them live. it will all fall in to place.
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 23 October 2003 18:10 (twenty-two years ago)
dude! providence bands(fortthunderbands) do not have a distinctive drum sound! landed != Lightning Bolt != Olneyville Sound System != The White Mice.
Adam Autry, probably one of the only non-Chippendale drummers people have heard in large quantities, sounds NOTHING LIKE BRIAN. Where does this come from?
I don't think the drummer is, though, much like either of those bands (or sounds.) I'm pretty drunk now;---granted, the only P&L stuff I've heard recorded is their 7"; I don't listen to it much, but when I listen to it, I think the drums kind of remind me just a more traditional dubby/gr00vy rock band--swings like the stones but not without much purpose.
lvvvv yoouu.
― Ian Johnson (orion), Friday, 24 October 2003 04:22 (twenty-two years ago)
― hstencil, Friday, 24 October 2003 16:08 (twenty-two years ago)
― Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Friday, 24 October 2003 17:21 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ian Johnson (orion), Friday, 24 October 2003 19:05 (twenty-two years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 24 October 2003 19:10 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dean Gulberry (deangulberry), Monday, 17 November 2003 19:48 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jon Williams!!!!! (ROFFLE!@!@!@) (ex machina), Friday, 18 June 2004 17:06 (twenty-one years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 18 June 2004 17:13 (twenty-one years ago)
― cutty (mcutt), Friday, 18 June 2004 17:14 (twenty-one years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 18 June 2004 17:14 (twenty-one years ago)
― Jon Williams!!!!! (ROFFLE!@!@!@) (ex machina), Friday, 18 June 2004 17:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Friday, 18 June 2004 17:24 (twenty-one years ago)
― lauren (laurenp), Friday, 18 June 2004 17:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― Jon Williams!!!!! (ROFFLE!@!@!@) (ex machina), Friday, 18 June 2004 17:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 18 June 2004 17:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Friday, 18 June 2004 17:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― Jon Williams!!!!! (ROFFLE!@!@!@) (ex machina), Friday, 18 June 2004 17:33 (twenty-one years ago)
We took our drummer to the hospital after Siren Fest. Brooklyn emergency medical care is THIRD WORLD, and sucks horribly. Other than that, Siren was cool, but the bands just aren't the point. Except Ted Leo, I love him.
― Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Friday, 18 June 2004 17:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 18 June 2004 17:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 20:01 (twenty years ago)
― Matt Boch (Matt Boch), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 20:07 (twenty years ago)
― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:06 (twenty years ago)
i hate the word i'm about to use, but "gold we're digging" is the most anthemic song i've heard this year that isn't "all my friends". i think it's in the production, the way the singer sounds so far away from you. it kinda feels like being at the way way back of an ampitheatre show or something, like you're almost being begged to yell the words right back.
also hits collegiate/post-collegiate angst (groan, i know) like "all my friends", like, yeah, there is something in the gold we're (i'm) digging, even though we (i) might not know what it is just yet.
i've been hesitant towards talking about Mapmaker here due to whiney's presence, but i fucking love the shit out of the record. it's something- i guess i'm gonna call it a pop-punk record with noise tendencies- that i didn't know i needed until i heard it. production is so superb, the playing is great, lyrics i can make out really hit. anyway now that the cats out of the bag so to speak, hats off whiney, shit is great.
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 12 December 2007 09:05 (eighteen years ago)
i've been hesitant towards talking about Mapmaker here due to whiney's presence
Hahaha... So THAT'S why no one on this board ever appeared to give a shit about this band.
Say whatever you want. I might actually be the biggest fan of Dan and BJ's songwriting there is. From what very little I know about the lyrics, a lot of the Mapmaker stuff did kind of come from a similar place as "All My Friends," which is maybe why both songs hit me so hard.
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 09:37 (eighteen years ago)
And, Jordan, btw, thanks a ton for listening so close. It means a lot to me, and I was just the drummer, so I know the other two dudes would be stoked to hear it.
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 09:39 (eighteen years ago)
yeah np. tell those to dudes to make it out to missouri one of these days. when i made the connection that you were the drummer i was pretty new here so i didn't know if bringing up the record would be kosher or not. like just the other day j0hn d. was like "don't bring up my band" but tonight i just said fuck it.
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 12 December 2007 10:31 (eighteen years ago)
i just heard these guys for the first time on some comp and they're great!
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 11:13 (eighteen years ago)
the song was "fractured sky"
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 11:14 (eighteen years ago)
i think i mentioned this before but one of my bros is the new drummer in this band :>
― Jordan, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 15:23 (eighteen years ago)
Jess Harvell and Alex in Baltimore put the cd in their 2007 top 10 lists for the Baltimore City Paper.
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:07 (eighteen years ago)
I love this band, but for me the Mapmaker standout is the Dismemberment-Plan-on-PCP "Brighter Days".
― Simon H., Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:27 (eighteen years ago)
my favorite P&L song is "A Pleasant Stay" off Stay Afraid
talk about anthem
― dmr, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:29 (eighteen years ago)
this record is still neck and neck with lcd for my favorite alb of the year.
― strongohulkington, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 20:23 (eighteen years ago)
Should have stolen the record from my ex
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 20:36 (eighteen years ago)
I need to put on Mapmaker some more. I got it and listened a couple times and was like "yeah this is good it sounds like Stay Afraid" and it went back in the pile
― dmr, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 20:42 (eighteen years ago)
You guys are super.
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 20:59 (eighteen years ago)
Stay Afraid was my favourite album of last year and this thread is reminding me to feel guilty that it's already the time of year for people to start making best-of lists and it's been so busy I haven't managed to give Mapmaker more than one listen yet. Also, some great tracks on the split with Tyondai Braxton, which I hope all those Battles fan kids are tracking down right now.
And I only realised who Whiney was after I'd been excited about the split for some time, saw them live (excellent show) and took the newly released Stay Afraid home and read the liner notes, and now if I manage to see them live again (I hope I will) you're not the drummer any more and I missed my chance to embarrass us both in public with stumbling "so... you're that guy... that's pretty cool" non-conversation. Which is just as well, I guess.
― a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 21:33 (eighteen years ago)
I "met" Whiney for the first time what, a month ago?
― ian, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 21:37 (eighteen years ago)
Yep. On the last day of CMJ!
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 21:49 (eighteen years ago)
I heard a band -- from Philly -- ripping off a P&L synth riff!
― Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Friday, 1 February 2008 17:34 (eighteen years ago)
Whiney were you the 2nd drummer of P&L?
― Steve Shasta, Friday, 1 February 2008 17:35 (eighteen years ago)
Glad somebody revived this, as I've been meaning to for a while. Damn, I love this band! Mapmaker and Stay Afraid are two of my very favorite records of right this moment now. So catchy, anthemic, freaky & great! Reminds me off the best things about Zen Arcade era Husker Du (best things in this case = all of them). Funny that people continue to say "noise band", 'cuz it seems totally off the mark at this point. I just hear rock, spazz, rock.
Thank you, Whiney, though I don't know you. You rules, this rules, aaaaahg flaggl.
― contenderizer, Friday, 1 February 2008 17:46 (eighteen years ago)
third!
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 1 February 2008 18:55 (eighteen years ago)
thx contederizer!
They're writing their fourth album right now.
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 1 February 2008 18:56 (eighteen years ago)
And that fourth album is pretty frickin' spectacular so far, based on a first listen.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 20:42 (seventeen years ago)
the last one was great so i'm v interested
― electricsound, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 00:17 (seventeen years ago)
me too. i heard some demos awhile back (the drummer is a good friend of mine) but not the final product yet.
― Jordan, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 03:16 (seventeen years ago)
They are a four piece now?
― S-, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 07:53 (seventeen years ago)
saw this band on Friday in Brighton and thought they were brilliant. Loved the way they affected to make a venue that holds maybe fifty people feel like an epic concert space.
― more private than a bar stool (Upt0eleven), Wednesday, 25 February 2009 09:40 (seventeen years ago)
I saw them last week in Glasgow and agree that they were awesome. I can never get all that excited by the albums, but live they're totally kick-ass.
http://krakow.zenfolio.com/img/v5/p950898040-3.jpg
More Parts & Labor photos
― krakow, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 20:47 (seventeen years ago)
So, I only know the fuzzpoppy stuff, but did these guys used to be a noise band or is this the No Age type "noise" thing. Serious question, really like the last album, would be intrigued by a power electronics backstory.
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 27 February 2009 09:34 (seventeen years ago)
did these guys used to be a noise band
nah not really. they were less poppy when they were a duo though
this is off their first lp, Groundswellhttp://www.partsandlabor.net/mp3/partsandlabor_gs.mp3
― dmr, Friday, 27 February 2009 14:13 (seventeen years ago)
I actually love the singing on this album, but then crooked indie vocals are something I totally stan for.
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 27 February 2009 23:35 (seventeen years ago)
stan and deliver
― That's not just me saying that, that's the Pentagon. (contenderizer), Saturday, 28 February 2009 05:38 (seventeen years ago)
stan and receiver
― Plaxico (I know, right?), Saturday, 28 February 2009 10:19 (seventeen years ago)
hey how's the new one? love P&L but kinda wary about the Fridmann production. thoughts?
― Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 10 March 2011 17:28 (fifteen years ago)
An announcement from Parts & Labor in their own words:Dear friends,This January, Parts & Labor turns 10 years old. We're planning a string of celebratory shows, in which we play selected material from all of our full length albums, leading up to a big 10th anniversary blow out on February 24th, 2012.Following these performances, we're going to take an extended hiatus. We feel incredibly fortunate having had a decade of amazing experiences -- making records and new friends, performing with so many killer musicians and artists. But it's time for each of us to focuson personal projects for a while. We're all going to continue to make music through other endeavors.We'd like to thank everyone who's supported us, bought our albums, seen us live, offered us a floor to sleep on. We love y'all. As a token of our esteem, we're giving away a final song called "No Nostalgia (featuring Todd Bailey and Where's The Party At)", which was recorded during the Receivers sessions, but suddenly seems all too prescient.Love,Dan/BJ/Joe (Parts & Labor)
Dear friends,
This January, Parts & Labor turns 10 years old. We're planning a string of celebratory shows, in which we play selected material from all of our full length albums, leading up to a big 10th anniversary blow out on February 24th, 2012.
Following these performances, we're going to take an extended hiatus. We feel incredibly fortunate having had a decade of amazing experiences -- making records and new friends, performing with so many killer musicians and artists. But it's time for each of us to focuson personal projects for a while. We're all going to continue to make music through other endeavors.
We'd like to thank everyone who's supported us, bought our albums, seen us live, offered us a floor to sleep on. We love y'all. As a token of our esteem, we're giving away a final song called "No Nostalgia (featuring Todd Bailey and Where's The Party At)", which was recorded during the Receivers sessions, but suddenly seems all too prescient.
Love,Dan/BJ/Joe (Parts & Labor)
And now Whiney can arrange for that big ol' cover story.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 13 October 2011 20:02 (fourteen years ago)
they had a good run! hopefully i'll get to see them again on this last run. haven't listened to the last album enough, i didn't even know it was produced by Fridmann until reading ilxor's post upthread just now.
― some dude, Thursday, 13 October 2011 21:21 (fourteen years ago)
just mixed by him iirc
― hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Thursday, 13 October 2011 21:34 (fourteen years ago)
stoked for their (last?) show tomorrow night
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 24 February 2012 01:18 (fourteen years ago)
i heard this show will be...cool
― dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 24 February 2012 02:15 (fourteen years ago)
i heard it hasn't sold out yet
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 24 February 2012 17:18 (fourteen years ago)
really wish i could make the trip up for it
― DNRIYHM NATION 1814 (some dude), Friday, 24 February 2012 17:21 (fourteen years ago)
http://www.thelmagazine.com/newyork/parts-and-labor/Content?oid=2214280
this is neat but lol how pissed can you imagine a certain someone being at the band being described as "Fugazi with ‘effed-up keyboards"
― DNRIYHM NATION 1814 (some dude), Friday, 24 February 2012 17:34 (fourteen years ago)
they're more like She & Him Meets Fugazi With Effed Up Keyboards, right?
― tylerw, Friday, 24 February 2012 17:36 (fourteen years ago)
why hello giggles
― DNRIYHM NATION 1814 (some dude), Friday, 24 February 2012 17:38 (fourteen years ago)
lol @ the difference in verbosity between whiney's and joe's interview
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Friday, 24 February 2012 17:57 (fourteen years ago)
i'm also getting a kick out of watching them play double drums on youtube
deaf. great show
― reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 25 February 2012 14:47 (fourteen years ago)