Parts And Labor (Brooklyn Noise)

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I saw these guys last year - Oakland 379

Aggressive elements of underground experimental minimal rock/noise yet not as shy with melodies as some of their contemporaries. Great synth-y cluster-bloops performed with an energy seemingly imported from the more throbbing ft. thunder outfits (mindflayer).

Ian's giving Hair Police way too much lip service on their own thread while these guys impressed me much more.

What are your thoughts? Feelings?

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 18:24 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.partsandlabor.net/news.html

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 18:31 (twenty-two years ago)

lauren, aftershow fun?

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 18:36 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm a big fan -- but I don't find them so much throbbing, or ft thunderish -- more jerky and angular, or something like that. But I'm a terribly untrustworthy explainer of things, so fuck it. They're excellent.

Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 19:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Parts & Labor are a good band. I've seen 'em twice, both times in Providence. The first time was a much better show--with Total Shutdown, Friends Forever and lots of local bands you guys haven't heard of. They were a good band, but I wouldn't call 'em noise. On record they remind me a LOT of Don Caballero (weird, eh?) and also somewhat of Plate Tectonics.

Hurlo is OTM in that they seem to be much more into really herky-jerky rhythms and grating-but-catchy melodies. Kind of like Deerhoof in that way, sans vocals. I suspect they listened to The Fall and Wire when Hair Police were listening to Whitehouse and Throbbing Gristle.

Ian Johnson (orion), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 19:27 (twenty-two years ago)

new lp w/ tyondai braxton v. v. very good. groundswell hit ("happy new year") and miss (the rest, kinda). their drummer's trying to play shit way over his head (their old drummer was much better) and it's fucking distracting, live especially. also, could their bassist (who's our own aaron w.'s cousin) lay off the fuzzbox for maybe one track? okay, thx.

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 20:02 (twenty-two years ago)

gygax!, it goes like this: aftershow, after party, hotel lobby, then right about 4 they clear the lobby. at that point, i am passed out on my couch with the tv and all of the lights on.

lauren (laurenp), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 21:30 (twenty-two years ago)

shoes on or off?

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 22 October 2003 22:07 (twenty-two years ago)

The track on the split record from the website is pretty good. Maybe they'll come to Texas some time.

dleone (dleone), Thursday, 23 October 2003 00:53 (twenty-two years ago)

sorry gygax! but I don't think these guys are anything special. Their music bores me, though there's definitely worse bands in this town.

Better NYC bands include Coptic Light, Battles, Endless Boogie, The SB, Humecetant Interruption, etc., etc., yadda yadda yadda.

hstencil, Thursday, 23 October 2003 01:30 (twenty-two years ago)

oh and GHQ are pretty good too.

hstencil, Thursday, 23 October 2003 01:31 (twenty-two years ago)

let us not forget people of the north, oneida side project and my current favorite.

lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 23 October 2003 02:08 (twenty-two years ago)

I still haven't heard them - or Oneida for that matter!

hstencil, Thursday, 23 October 2003 02:13 (twenty-two years ago)

gotta work on that, dude!

lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 23 October 2003 02:53 (twenty-two years ago)

gotta work on getting work, then I'll work on that. But yeah, I do wanna hear 'em.

hstencil, Thursday, 23 October 2003 02:56 (twenty-two years ago)

new oneida record = GREATGREATGREAT

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 23 October 2003 03:01 (twenty-two years ago)

no new record buying for me until I get a job (xcept I bought a Xenakis CD used tonight but what the hey).

hstencil, Thursday, 23 October 2003 03:05 (twenty-two years ago)

hstencil, an atom bomb falling in your lap would probably bore you too (and that's a good thing)

i love how lauren just totally writes off sightings... *sniff*

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 23 October 2003 04:39 (twenty-two years ago)

new oneida record = GREATGREATGREAT

Really?


(gygax! I'm sending an email your way soon)

adaml (adaml), Thursday, 23 October 2003 04:50 (twenty-two years ago)

I would really, really like to hear Coptic Light.

adaml (adaml), Thursday, 23 October 2003 04:53 (twenty-two years ago)

i love how lauren just totally writes off sightings... *sniff*

My friend Nate is like that too. He saw them do some improv thing and now he's all "eh, fuck sightings. they suck." BUT THEY DON'T!! AND HE COULD SEE THEM *ALLTHETIME*--first impressions. I've been kind of sad that I've lived here for a few months now and still haven't seen 'em. Saw em in Providence a long while back with Olneyville Sound System, and it was amazing.

Ian Johnson (orion), Thursday, 23 October 2003 07:11 (twenty-two years ago)

i love how gygax! totally spouts untruths. dude, you know i love sightings! i have defended that band so many times that by now i should be entitled to some sort of kickback. when they're on, ain't no one better. satisfied?

ps- coptic light are goddawful. just sayin'.

lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 23 October 2003 14:20 (twenty-two years ago)

oh, and they should start playing out more regularly soon. they were in europe for a while, tearing shit up there.

lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 23 October 2003 14:31 (twenty-two years ago)

what are you talking about, gygax!? What's this atom bomb shit? P&L just sound totally boring to me, like dudes who are still just trying to figure out what they want to do, their songs don't really do much, don't go anywhere (not that I always want a song to go somewhere), and basically are just not what I'm interested in at all. Sorry, but that's just how I see (hear) it. I don't think they have anything in common with any of the bands they're compared to on this thread at all - like I'm not a huge Mindflayer fan but what they do is way more compelling than anything I've heard by P&L.

Also, I guess I forgot Sightings, I do like them all right (although I'm not sure if I'll ever get around to buying anything by them). Another good NYC band (via LA): Young People.

Didn't know your true feelings on Coptic Light, lauren. I promise I won't tell Coach Winterberg!

hstencil, Thursday, 23 October 2003 14:50 (twenty-two years ago)

yes, please keep it quiet! i think i'm on shaky ground with him as it is over that magma business.

lauren (laurenp), Thursday, 23 October 2003 15:03 (twenty-two years ago)

ha! I make it a point to never bring up Magma with him. Mostly he's chastising me over the correct usage of the term "boogie," so I just like start talking about how great Yeti is.

When they're on, tho, Coptic Light can be like my favorite band ever.

hstencil, Thursday, 23 October 2003 15:15 (twenty-two years ago)


mindflayer!

Dean Gulberry (deangulberry), Thursday, 23 October 2003 16:20 (twenty-two years ago)

ps- coptic light are goddawful. just sayin'.

A dude who lives in my dorm has a band that played with Coptic Light a few weeks ago. I went to see his band, who were decent, but Coptic Light were indeed pretty bad.

Ian Johnson (orion), Thursday, 23 October 2003 16:27 (twenty-two years ago)

was it like a Tuesday night at NorthSix? If so, it wasn't a good show for them, definitely an off night.

hstencil, Thursday, 23 October 2003 16:37 (twenty-two years ago)

It was at at Northsix, but I don't remember the day of the week. They played with The Fugue.

Ian Johnson (orion), Thursday, 23 October 2003 16:59 (twenty-two years ago)

haha, jeff from young people posted on the

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about 3 years ago (after he moved to SF from RI)...

YOU MIGHT KNOW HIM AS BROWN FROM PINK AND BROWN.

but still, the don cab stuff i really don't hear wrt: P&L (liek who's the fripp-wannabe in P&L????), the drummer is totally ft. thunder-esque, ef awl ewe. aaron dub's cousin holds down the melodies naturally he's the focus of all the crit here. not to say y'all aren't free to disagree but hey, pick on someone your own age.

hstencil: gembaku onanies = "those whose orgasms via masturbation are comparable to an atomic bomb explosion replete with mushroom cloud sprouting from the loins". the first hardcore band from japan. go see them live. it will all fall in to place.

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 23 October 2003 18:10 (twenty-two years ago)

the drummer is totally ft. thunder-esque, ef awl ewe.

dude! providence bands(fortthunderbands) do not have a distinctive drum sound! landed != Lightning Bolt != Olneyville Sound System != The White Mice.

Adam Autry, probably one of the only non-Chippendale drummers people have heard in large quantities, sounds NOTHING LIKE BRIAN. Where does this come from?

I don't think the drummer is, though, much like either of those bands (or sounds.) I'm pretty drunk now;---granted, the only P&L stuff I've heard recorded is their 7"; I don't listen to it much, but when I listen to it, I think the drums kind of remind me just a more traditional dubby/gr00vy rock band--swings like the stones but not without much purpose.

lvvvv yoouu.

Ian Johnson (orion), Friday, 24 October 2003 04:22 (twenty-two years ago)

Ian, yeah it was a Tuesday night, I was at that show, and Coptic Light were not very good (they admitted as much, too). That said, no offense to your friend, but the other bands on the bill were EVEN WORSE.

hstencil, Friday, 24 October 2003 16:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Hey, I like the Fugue too -- course, I wasn't at that show, so I guess I'm just talking shit.

Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Friday, 24 October 2003 17:21 (twenty-two years ago)

i'd like to take back my inane comments about providence having a "drum sound" earlier; the providence "drum sound" = hard.

Ian Johnson (orion), Friday, 24 October 2003 19:05 (twenty-two years ago)

welcome to soberville, mr. johnson.

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 24 October 2003 19:10 (twenty-two years ago)

three weeks pass...
i saw them on saturday and they were really good. really great stuff. unfortunately for them though, tyondai braxton opened for them and was GREAT. check him out here.

Dean Gulberry (deangulberry), Monday, 17 November 2003 19:48 (twenty-two years ago)

seven months pass...
ONEIDA SUCKS YOU ARE ALL GAY

Jon Williams!!!!! (ROFFLE!@!@!@) (ex machina), Friday, 18 June 2004 17:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I STILL HAVE NOT HEARD ONEIDA A CLINTON HILL BAND

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 18 June 2004 17:13 (twenty-one years ago)

really? they have many albums

cutty (mcutt), Friday, 18 June 2004 17:14 (twenty-one years ago)

ARE THEY LIKE BIGGIE?

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 18 June 2004 17:14 (twenty-one years ago)

http://images.villagevoice.com/siren/2003/bands/oneida.jpg

Jon Williams!!!!! (ROFFLE!@!@!@) (ex machina), Friday, 18 June 2004 17:21 (twenty-one years ago)

yes, Oneida is gay; Jon Williams, be frightened. ps, I'm the one on the left.

Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Friday, 18 June 2004 17:24 (twenty-one years ago)

oneida does not suck!

lauren (laurenp), Friday, 18 June 2004 17:26 (twenty-one years ago)

well, they're no SIGHTINGS

Jon Williams!!!!! (ROFFLE!@!@!@) (ex machina), Friday, 18 June 2004 17:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Hurlo, I saw you at the Bottom of the Hill Feb 2003!

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 18 June 2004 17:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Jon, you're right, obviously, in many ways. Gygax!, I love that place, and I had a wicked time at that show. We'll be back in town in August, come and say hi -- we can talk about baseball instead of NOISE.

Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Friday, 18 June 2004 17:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Hurlothrumbo: I was kidding; I don't really hate Oneida. I've only seen you guys at ahem... Siren Fest

Jon Williams!!!!! (ROFFLE!@!@!@) (ex machina), Friday, 18 June 2004 17:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Don't backpedal on my account, man, I like your hollering -- and please don't think I'm offendable.

We took our drummer to the hospital after Siren Fest. Brooklyn emergency medical care is THIRD WORLD, and sucks horribly. Other than that, Siren was cool, but the bands just aren't the point. Except Ted Leo, I love him.

Hurlothrumbo (hurlothrumbo), Friday, 18 June 2004 17:38 (twenty-one years ago)

are you saying you didn't receive the same level of care that Abner Louima did?

hstencil (hstencil), Friday, 18 June 2004 17:45 (twenty-one years ago)

hey look, it's matt boch.

Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 20:01 (twenty years ago)

sometimes I post here!

Matt Boch (Matt Boch), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 20:07 (twenty years ago)

yes, but what is your frequency re: lurking?

Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Wednesday, 8 March 2006 23:06 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...

i hate the word i'm about to use, but "gold we're digging" is the most anthemic song i've heard this year that isn't "all my friends". i think it's in the production, the way the singer sounds so far away from you. it kinda feels like being at the way way back of an ampitheatre show or something, like you're almost being begged to yell the words right back.

also hits collegiate/post-collegiate angst (groan, i know) like "all my friends", like, yeah, there is something in the gold we're (i'm) digging, even though we (i) might not know what it is just yet.

i've been hesitant towards talking about Mapmaker here due to whiney's presence, but i fucking love the shit out of the record. it's something- i guess i'm gonna call it a pop-punk record with noise tendencies- that i didn't know i needed until i heard it. production is so superb, the playing is great, lyrics i can make out really hit. anyway now that the cats out of the bag so to speak, hats off whiney, shit is great.

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 12 December 2007 09:05 (eighteen years ago)

i've been hesitant towards talking about Mapmaker here due to whiney's presence

Hahaha... So THAT'S why no one on this board ever appeared to give a shit about this band.

Say whatever you want. I might actually be the biggest fan of Dan and BJ's songwriting there is. From what very little I know about the lyrics, a lot of the Mapmaker stuff did kind of come from a similar place as "All My Friends," which is maybe why both songs hit me so hard.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 09:37 (eighteen years ago)

And, Jordan, btw, thanks a ton for listening so close. It means a lot to me, and I was just the drummer, so I know the other two dudes would be stoked to hear it.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 09:39 (eighteen years ago)

yeah np. tell those to dudes to make it out to missouri one of these days. when i made the connection that you were the drummer i was pretty new here so i didn't know if bringing up the record would be kosher or not. like just the other day j0hn d. was like "don't bring up my band" but tonight i just said fuck it.

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 12 December 2007 10:31 (eighteen years ago)

i just heard these guys for the first time on some comp and they're great!

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 11:13 (eighteen years ago)

the song was "fractured sky"

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 11:14 (eighteen years ago)

i think i mentioned this before but one of my bros is the new drummer in this band :>

Jordan, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 15:23 (eighteen years ago)

Jess Harvell and Alex in Baltimore put the cd in their 2007 top 10 lists for the Baltimore City Paper.

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:07 (eighteen years ago)

I love this band, but for me the Mapmaker standout is the Dismemberment-Plan-on-PCP "Brighter Days".

Simon H., Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:27 (eighteen years ago)

my favorite P&L song is "A Pleasant Stay" off Stay Afraid

talk about anthem

dmr, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 18:29 (eighteen years ago)

this record is still neck and neck with lcd for my favorite alb of the year.

strongohulkington, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 20:23 (eighteen years ago)

Should have stolen the record from my ex

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 20:36 (eighteen years ago)

I need to put on Mapmaker some more. I got it and listened a couple times and was like "yeah this is good it sounds like Stay Afraid" and it went back in the pile

dmr, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 20:42 (eighteen years ago)

You guys are super.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 20:59 (eighteen years ago)

Stay Afraid was my favourite album of last year and this thread is reminding me to feel guilty that it's already the time of year for people to start making best-of lists and it's been so busy I haven't managed to give Mapmaker more than one listen yet. Also, some great tracks on the split with Tyondai Braxton, which I hope all those Battles fan kids are tracking down right now.

And I only realised who Whiney was after I'd been excited about the split for some time, saw them live (excellent show) and took the newly released Stay Afraid home and read the liner notes, and now if I manage to see them live again (I hope I will) you're not the drummer any more and I missed my chance to embarrass us both in public with stumbling "so... you're that guy... that's pretty cool" non-conversation. Which is just as well, I guess.

a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 21:33 (eighteen years ago)

I "met" Whiney for the first time what, a month ago?

ian, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 21:37 (eighteen years ago)

Yep. On the last day of CMJ!

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 12 December 2007 21:49 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...

I heard a band -- from Philly -- ripping off a P&L synth riff!

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Friday, 1 February 2008 17:34 (eighteen years ago)

Whiney were you the 2nd drummer of P&L?

Steve Shasta, Friday, 1 February 2008 17:35 (eighteen years ago)

Glad somebody revived this, as I've been meaning to for a while. Damn, I love this band! Mapmaker and Stay Afraid are two of my very favorite records of right this moment now. So catchy, anthemic, freaky & great! Reminds me off the best things about Zen Arcade era Husker Du (best things in this case = all of them). Funny that people continue to say "noise band", 'cuz it seems totally off the mark at this point. I just hear rock, spazz, rock.

Thank you, Whiney, though I don't know you. You rules, this rules, aaaaahg flaggl.

contenderizer, Friday, 1 February 2008 17:46 (eighteen years ago)

Whiney were you the 2nd drummer of P&L?

third!

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 1 February 2008 18:55 (eighteen years ago)

thx contederizer!

They're writing their fourth album right now.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Friday, 1 February 2008 18:56 (eighteen years ago)

six months pass...

And that fourth album is pretty frickin' spectacular so far, based on a first listen.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 August 2008 20:42 (seventeen years ago)

the last one was great so i'm v interested

electricsound, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 00:17 (seventeen years ago)

me too. i heard some demos awhile back (the drummer is a good friend of mine) but not the final product yet.

Jordan, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 03:16 (seventeen years ago)

They are a four piece now?

S-, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 07:53 (seventeen years ago)

five months pass...

saw this band on Friday in Brighton and thought they were brilliant. Loved the way they affected to make a venue that holds maybe fifty people feel like an epic concert space.

more private than a bar stool (Upt0eleven), Wednesday, 25 February 2009 09:40 (seventeen years ago)

I saw them last week in Glasgow and agree that they were awesome. I can never get all that excited by the albums, but live they're totally kick-ass.

http://krakow.zenfolio.com/img/v5/p950898040-3.jpg

More Parts & Labor photos

krakow, Wednesday, 25 February 2009 20:47 (seventeen years ago)

So, I only know the fuzzpoppy stuff, but did these guys used to be a noise band or is this the No Age type "noise" thing. Serious question, really like the last album, would be intrigued by a power electronics backstory.

Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 27 February 2009 09:34 (seventeen years ago)

did these guys used to be a noise band

nah not really. they were less poppy when they were a duo though

this is off their first lp, Groundswell
http://www.partsandlabor.net/mp3/partsandlabor_gs.mp3

dmr, Friday, 27 February 2009 14:13 (seventeen years ago)

I actually love the singing on this album, but then crooked indie vocals are something I totally stan for.

Plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 27 February 2009 23:35 (seventeen years ago)

stan and deliver

That's not just me saying that, that's the Pentagon. (contenderizer), Saturday, 28 February 2009 05:38 (seventeen years ago)

stan and receiver

Plaxico (I know, right?), Saturday, 28 February 2009 10:19 (seventeen years ago)

two years pass...

hey how's the new one? love P&L but kinda wary about the Fridmann production. thoughts?

Damn this thread seems so....different without ilxor (ilxor), Thursday, 10 March 2011 17:28 (fifteen years ago)

seven months pass...

An announcement from Parts & Labor in their own words:

Dear friends,

This January, Parts & Labor turns 10 years old. We're planning a string of celebratory shows, in which we play selected material from all of our full length albums, leading up to a big 10th anniversary blow out on February 24th, 2012.

Following these performances, we're going to take an extended hiatus. We feel incredibly fortunate having had a decade of amazing experiences -- making records and new friends, performing with so many killer musicians and artists. But it's time for each of us to focus
on personal projects for a while. We're all going to continue to make music through other endeavors.

We'd like to thank everyone who's supported us, bought our albums, seen us live, offered us a floor to sleep on. We love y'all. As a token of our esteem, we're giving away a final song called "No Nostalgia (featuring Todd Bailey and Where's The Party At)", which was recorded during the Receivers sessions, but suddenly seems all too prescient.

Love,
Dan/BJ/Joe (Parts & Labor)

And now Whiney can arrange for that big ol' cover story.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 13 October 2011 20:02 (fourteen years ago)

they had a good run! hopefully i'll get to see them again on this last run. haven't listened to the last album enough, i didn't even know it was produced by Fridmann until reading ilxor's post upthread just now.

some dude, Thursday, 13 October 2011 21:21 (fourteen years ago)

just mixed by him iirc

hardcore oatmeal (Jordan), Thursday, 13 October 2011 21:34 (fourteen years ago)

four months pass...

stoked for their (last?) show tomorrow night

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 24 February 2012 01:18 (fourteen years ago)

i heard this show will be...cool

dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 24 February 2012 02:15 (fourteen years ago)

i heard it hasn't sold out yet

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 24 February 2012 17:18 (fourteen years ago)

really wish i could make the trip up for it

DNRIYHM NATION 1814 (some dude), Friday, 24 February 2012 17:21 (fourteen years ago)

http://www.thelmagazine.com/newyork/parts-and-labor/Content?oid=2214280

this is neat but lol how pissed can you imagine a certain someone being at the band being described as "Fugazi with ‘effed-up keyboards"

DNRIYHM NATION 1814 (some dude), Friday, 24 February 2012 17:34 (fourteen years ago)

they're more like She & Him Meets Fugazi With Effed Up Keyboards, right?

tylerw, Friday, 24 February 2012 17:36 (fourteen years ago)

why hello giggles

DNRIYHM NATION 1814 (some dude), Friday, 24 February 2012 17:38 (fourteen years ago)

lol @ the difference in verbosity between whiney's and joe's interview

40oz of tears (Jordan), Friday, 24 February 2012 17:57 (fourteen years ago)

i'm also getting a kick out of watching them play double drums on youtube

40oz of tears (Jordan), Friday, 24 February 2012 17:57 (fourteen years ago)

deaf. great show

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 25 February 2012 14:47 (fourteen years ago)


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