What's the most seminal thing you've ever seen?

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I was there. I was there in 1968..... Oi! STOP THAT!

Let's see how much of our respective edges we have lost....

Anyone see the Pistols in '76, Robert Johnson (hmmmm maybe not), Galaxie 500?

Neil, Friday, 31 October 2003 10:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Run DMC and Public Enemy, Copenhagen, 1988. Both at the height of their carreers. My first concert. Ace.

Jay Kid (Jay K), Friday, 31 October 2003 10:32 (twenty-two years ago)

This pervy Polish film called "The Beast".

kate (kate), Friday, 31 October 2003 10:32 (twenty-two years ago)

best i can do is Kraftwerk and Daft Punk (twice) in '97

stevem (blueski), Friday, 31 October 2003 10:33 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't really have anything *really* seminal. The best I've got is the Smashing Pumpkins in '93 with about 100 other people on fireworks night in Edinburgh.

neil, Friday, 31 October 2003 10:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Serious answer...

Does it count seeing The Strokes at the Mercury Lounge before they were famous? I don't feel like that was seminal, I just feel like that was one of the unavoidable liabilities of the Lower East Side.

kate (kate), Friday, 31 October 2003 10:36 (twenty-two years ago)

*struggles*
*can only think of The Darkness and The Rapture last year, can't justify that to self*
*considers making bukkake film joke instead*
*can't even be bothered*

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Friday, 31 October 2003 10:41 (twenty-two years ago)

a small australian band called elixir at 'livid' a few weeks ago doing a cover of nick drake's 'river man'. only one that springs to mind at such last hours....

elizabeth (elizabeth), Friday, 31 October 2003 10:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Kate - I'll see your strokes gig and raise you The Stereophonics supporting Kenickie in 1995. We wrote them off as dullard journeymen who should have stuck to their car mechanic NVQs. I was glad and certain I'd never have to see them again.

My faith in humanity has still not recovered.

neil, Friday, 31 October 2003 10:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Hey, I saw Galaxie 500 (with Lush supporting them) on their 'On Fire' tour. Saw MBV at around about the same time too and also Nirvana the same year when they were promoting 'Bleach'.

NickB (NickB), Friday, 31 October 2003 10:51 (twenty-two years ago)

x post. sorry, such *late* hours....i should elaborate. it's a three piece band with an acoustic guitar, a saxaphone, and possibly one of the most amazing voices i've ever heard, compliments of katie noonan.

elizabeth (elizabeth), Friday, 31 October 2003 10:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Saw the Jesus and Mary Chain at HammPalais, seemed to be the first gig where they had got it together at last, played for 35 mins, and had Pink Industry and Sonic Youth as support.....

mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 31 October 2003 11:08 (twenty-two years ago)

semen... err..

I guess seeing the famous Beastie Boys vs Prodigy at Reading 98 is kinda seminal.

dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 31 October 2003 11:17 (twenty-two years ago)

"Kate - I'll see your strokes gig and raise you The Stereophonics supporting Kenickie in 1995. We wrote them off as dullard journeymen who should have stuck to their car mechanic NVQs. I was glad and certain I'd never have to see them again."

Can I miss the point of this thread even more and note that 1995 would surely have been too early for this occurence? At best they might have gone under their previous name, Tragic Love Company... I don't like knowing this sort of thing but living where I do it tends to stick to you :(

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Friday, 31 October 2003 11:46 (twenty-two years ago)

I saw Oasis at the 100 Club, Oxford Street, in 1994. In fact I travelled to the gig in the back of their Transit, snuck in through the back entrance with loads of their dodgy mates and knocked a table load of drinks over backstage.

Failing that it would have to be The Strokes at Heaven. It was full of media ponces so I instigated some general pushing and jumping around which livened things up a tad. Backstage afterwards I was talking to a girl who was going on and on about how beautiful they were, but seemed oblivious to the fact that Nikolai was right next to her.

Persecution Smith, Friday, 31 October 2003 12:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Stereophonics - hmmmm, perhaps you're right. It was when I was in 2nd year at uni (I think) so would have been 95/96. The year may well be wrong but the rest is correct.

I said "don't do it that way, you'll never make a dime"

sorry

neil, Friday, 31 October 2003 12:06 (twenty-two years ago)

I used to live on Seminole!

peepee (peepee), Friday, 31 October 2003 12:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Pistols in 76 - yes. JoyDiv - lots of times. No-one else worth seeing after JD really.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Friday, 31 October 2003 12:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Probably the first Lollapalooza. Unfortunately, it was seminal for bands like Korn and Limp Bizkit.

dleone (dleone), Friday, 31 October 2003 12:57 (twenty-two years ago)

MBV + Thin White Rope at Hull Adelphi, 1988 (or was it 89?), in the company of the proverbial twenty people and a dog.

rar, Friday, 31 October 2003 12:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Venom - The Seventh Date Of Hell at Hammersmith Odeon, 1984.

udu wudu (udu wudu), Friday, 31 October 2003 13:18 (twenty-two years ago)

The first Neutral Milk Hotel show. The first electric Sebadoh show. The first Pavement show on the East Coast (I think). The first American show by Teenage Fanclub. The first Princess Superstar show. The second-I-think Cat Power show. The Bikini Kill/Bratmobile/Heavens to Betsy tour. Go Team/Blake Babies/Honeybunch in like '90. Laito Lychee. STP.

These were all a very long time ago.

Douglas (Douglas), Friday, 31 October 2003 13:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Lollapalooza 1 - 1991
MAINSTAGE ARTISTS: Jane's Addiction, Siouxsie and the Banshees, Living Color, Nine Inch Nails, Fishbone, Violent Femmes, Ice-T/Body Count, Butthole Surfers, Rollins Band

Chris V. (Chris V), Friday, 31 October 2003 13:35 (twenty-two years ago)

He said seminal, hurr hurr

Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 31 October 2003 13:37 (twenty-two years ago)

I saw pretty much all the significant punk and post punk bands including the Pistols and Joy Division but excluding (for reasons which I can't even begin to fathom, 'cos I loved 'em) Magazine and Pere Ubu (still in with a chance of sorts there 'though!).

I saw Miles Davis; The Cure, U2 and Radiohead before any of 'em had an album out; Nirvana when there were still 4 of 'em; Manic Street Preachers in a tiny half-empty club in Reading a couple of days before Richey took a razor blade to his arm and it all started to go rapidly downhill....

I'd rather have seen Captain Beefheart 'though.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 31 October 2003 13:45 (twenty-two years ago)

I rocked the Spin Doctors show in 1992.

Chris V. (Chris V), Friday, 31 October 2003 13:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Chris V, sadly wins.
I saw Dizzy Gillespie
right before he died;

'Rapmania' at
the Apollo in '90,
LL getting booed;

Jeff Lorber Fusion
before Kenny Gorelick
dropped the 'orelick'!

Haikunym (Haikunym), Friday, 31 October 2003 14:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Triple bill with Soul Asylum and Screaming Trees as well.

Chris V. (Chris V), Friday, 31 October 2003 14:08 (twenty-two years ago)

I was at the Primal Scream gig which Andy Weatherall was sent to review for NME.

Jim Eaton-Terry (Jim E-T), Friday, 31 October 2003 14:57 (twenty-two years ago)

Motorhead and the Cro-Mags at the Ritz in NYC in...1986? Maybe 1985. Motorhead were already well-established, obviously, but the Cro-Mags were just sort of starting to come up, and it was a big gig in terms of crossing the metal and CBGBs hardcore scenes.

Also, Pantera opening for Suicidal Tendencies and Exodus in 1990...the Cowboys From Hell tour, I guess. Nobody knew who the hell they were, and most weren't particularly impressed.

Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Friday, 31 October 2003 15:06 (twenty-two years ago)

There's a great interview with Harley from the Cro-Mags in this month's Terrorizer, where he goes on about opening for Venom at about the same time, taking shitloads of, um, shit from their leathery audience before winning them over with a few well-aimed slaps and warmed-over metal riffs.

DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Friday, 31 October 2003 15:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Saw Basement Jaxx DJing in Brixton very early on.

Was behind the goal for Germany-England Euro 96 semifinal.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, 31 October 2003 15:15 (twenty-two years ago)

The best I can do is Def Jux 2 summers ago...right when Fantastic Damage came out, I saw El-P's Chicago release party/signing.

ddrake, Friday, 31 October 2003 15:23 (twenty-two years ago)

i saw the strokes having cigarettes outside an art gallery in boston in 2000, before they had released a record. they were about to play, but the gallery was k-crowded so i decided just to head home.

amateurist (amateurist), Friday, 31 October 2003 15:25 (twenty-two years ago)

guided by voices' first new york show (considered by some to be their first proper show, period, though the history is somewhat murky on that) -- cbgb, 1993. plus their second, third, fourth, etc., new york shows.

and i'd just like to add for the record that i saw milli vanilli. garden state arts center, new jersey, 1989. with young mc.

fact checking cuz, Friday, 31 October 2003 15:36 (twenty-two years ago)

I saw...er...Living Colour at CBGB's in the mid-80's a couple of times, and I saw Nine Inch Nails at a nearly empty gig at then-entirely rinky-dink club, Sonics (which would later change into the Marquee, last a couple of years, and then morph into a Latino dance club called El Flamingo) just after the release of Pretty Hate Machine.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 31 October 2003 15:50 (twenty-two years ago)

the smiths at the hollywood palladium in 1985 for meat is murder. i was afraid of the audience. i remember his loose (untucked) shirt and the way he danced, but it was hard to see.

youn, Friday, 31 October 2003 16:05 (twenty-two years ago)

drive like jehu/three mile pilot/heavy vegetable @ the che ca. 1991

i saw heroin, spanakorzo, and one of justin pearson's early bands around the same time in a high school garage party in la jolla and thought they stunk (and turned me off to lots more gravity stuff despite dwelling in the epicenter)

saw the boredoms perform the "super ae" material for the first time in the usa at the radio station i worked at.

neil hamburgers first performance ever.

i saw the treepeople open for beat happening my first week of college circa time whore tour.

i saw beck open for the treepeople and further at raji's, i think one of his first shows.

i saw a lot of the shrimper stuff pretty early on in pomona, or al's bar or jabberjaw: refrigerator, nothing painted blue, diskothi-Q, mountain goats, super early creeper lagoon when it was a one man band (and good).

maybe j0hn can help me out here, but i think i saw one of the first extra glenns shows with thingy and jim yoshi's pile up in cory brown's living room just up the street from me. thingy did a 5 song misfits medley for an encore.

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 31 October 2003 16:10 (twenty-two years ago)

melt banana at 925 gilman pretty early on... it got very violent

bulb/jack show in oakland... when black jack records and bulb records first joined forces in the mid-90s, first west coast performances for the early Bulb roster which helped shape a lot of the SF noise scene to this day.

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 31 October 2003 16:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Barenaked Ladies played at a dance I went to at Curtice High School in 1991.

cybele (cybele), Friday, 31 October 2003 17:07 (twenty-two years ago)

I was at that '85 Palladium Smiths gig. It was excellent, though I wonder if seeing a fairly well-known band on their second (?) American tour would be 'seminal,' quite.

I saw a whole raft of gigs in '83-84' by the Dream Syndicate, Bangs (nee Bangles,) Rain Parade etc...a few Black Flag gigs from the same period. The first fIREHOSE gig, which--as it was direct from the Minutemen's ashes--might count. I walked out on an early Hole show, and wish I'd never been there in the first place. I went to the Cocteau Twins' first American gig. The most seminal *feeling* gig I ever went to was the first American show by Union Carbide Productions. That's gotta remain the greatest display of rock aggro I've seen, and that would encompass quite a few things...but I'm not sure they're remembered enough to call "seminal." Dinosaur played in my college dorm long before they were forced to adapt the "Jr." tag...there must be others...

M Specktor (M Specktor), Friday, 31 October 2003 17:13 (twenty-two years ago)

sorry, i was only thirteen and it was my second show, the first one being duran duran in some kind of huge sports venue.

youn, Friday, 31 October 2003 17:22 (twenty-two years ago)

wow! you saw the rain parade!

youn, Friday, 31 October 2003 17:24 (twenty-two years ago)

The most seminal *feeling* gig I ever went to was the first American show by Union Carbide Productions. That's gotta remain the greatest display of rock aggro I've seen, and that would encompass quite a few things...

I saw Union Carbide Productions too, they played at the Marquee in London. You're damn right about how impressive they were as a live unit.

NickB (NickB), Friday, 31 October 2003 17:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I was at an L7/Redd Kross/Butthole Surfers show in early 1991. Which might not be much were it not for the fact that on the balcony opposite from mine one Everett True introduced an up and coming young guitarist/singer from Aberdeen to a noted female bandleader.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 31 October 2003 17:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I saw that tour too, Chris V!!!!!!! It was my first concert!!!!!! SEMINAL!! YES!!!!

Sonny A. (Keiko), Friday, 31 October 2003 17:36 (twenty-two years ago)

as seminal as i get is two of the last jawbreaker shows and one of the last pavement shows. i'm young, sue me.

Dean Gulberry (deangulberry), Friday, 31 October 2003 17:44 (twenty-two years ago)

While visiting a friend in Memphis, summer of '99, I was spending the nightat a local rocker's apartment when one evening, members of the Oblivians, '68 Comeback, and Jack O' Fireshowed up and crammed bodies and amplifiers into the small space to do some recording and playing. Every song LOUD. HOT.
Next year, seeing Peter Kowaldt play a one hour solo set, then my group and a few others joining him for short duets and a group set. Otherworldy. No one like him anywhere.

Stephen Boyle (SBoyle), Friday, 31 October 2003 17:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Sorry Youn, didn't mean to sound pedantic or nothin'...just wondering aloud where the definition of 'seminal' begins, as much for myself as anyone.

And man. That Union Carbide gig was something else again. It's hard to imagine, say, Iggy in his prime being as purely kinetic as that singer. I thought for sure we'd all go home bloody. (Just as it's hard to imagine the fat guy in a kaftan fronting the Soundtrack of Our Lives being the same person...)

M Specktor (M Specktor), Friday, 31 October 2003 17:52 (twenty-two years ago)

I was at an L7/Redd Kross/Butthole Surfers show in early 1991.

Oh yeah? Well, I saw Redd Kross, D.O.A and the Circle Jerks at the Ritz in 1985.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 31 October 2003 18:06 (twenty-two years ago)

But DOA and the Circle Jerks (post-Group Sex) are hardly seminal Alex.

Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Friday, 31 October 2003 18:08 (twenty-two years ago)

I saw hanoi rocks right back in the early '80's, playing to a crowd of about 200 proto-goths.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 31 October 2003 18:10 (twenty-two years ago)

I haven't seen anything that's quite "seminal," but I have seen a few things that can be considered notable. The first thing that comes to mind is that I was at the very first post-Bill Berry R.E.M. show at the RFK Stadium Tibetan Freedom Concert.

I saw the first 'real' Jicks show too.

I don't really see that many shows unless artists I already really like a lot are performing.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Friday, 31 October 2003 18:10 (twenty-two years ago)

i saw death cab for cutie play in the back room at a small italian restaurant called "dante's" in orlando around the time "something about airplanes" came out. there were a handful of people there and they played a few songs with toy instruments. now i can't stand to listen to them at all, ever since ben gibbard did that interview in "seventeen" magazine.

jason m (jason m), Friday, 31 October 2003 18:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Gerardo / Timmy T / Salt 'n' Pepa at the Walt Whitman High School auditorium in Bethesda, MD in the fall of 1989.

The result of our school winning a contest sponsored by local radio station Q107.

Minds were blown, asses were kicked, names were taken.

Ben Boyer (Ben Boyer), Friday, 31 October 2003 18:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Ben Boyer wins.

Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Friday, 31 October 2003 18:49 (twenty-two years ago)

But DOA and the Circle Jerks (post-Group Sex) are hardly seminal Alex.

True, but Redd Kross post-Teen Babes/pre-Neurotica was the real coup, there.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 31 October 2003 19:18 (twenty-two years ago)

I wish I could have seen Red Kross. I couldn't bring myself to go to the Phaseshifter shows, they were so bad.

Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Friday, 31 October 2003 19:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Not really seminal I grant you, but Nsync played my high school right around the time "I Want You Back" (their first big-ish hit in the US) was breaking (I was a freshman). Almost exactly two years later they broke the one-week album sales record.

Charles McCain (Charles McCain), Friday, 31 October 2003 19:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Backstreet Boys at my high school football stadium about 6 months before the teen-pop craze (along with the BSBs) broke; one of 'em had gone to school there.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 31 October 2003 19:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Oasis at the Cathouse in Glasgow third on the bill to Verve in 1993 (they were crap, Verve were good).
Belle and Sebastian at the Moir Hall in Glasgow 1996, this was amazing.

You're not Neil Simpson from fleet management are you? (Spotted the Edinburgh thing above).

Keith Watson (kmw), Friday, 31 October 2003 19:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Suppose I saw Idlewild at Potterrow in Edinburgh in front of about 15 people. Think that was in 1997. Seem to only remember there being 3 of them at the time. Didn't like them much, although I did like something I heard of them on the radio the other night. Don't think it really counts as seminal though!

Keith Watson (kmw), Friday, 31 October 2003 19:47 (twenty-two years ago)

I saw Nirvana in early 1990. The show has been pretty widely bootlegged. I like to think I influenced the setlist (Kurt had come out on stage and writing out a setlist; I shouted out "Stain"! he turned and looked at me, nodded, and wrote it down).

hmmm... saw Liz Phair play to like 20 people here in Chicago once. I'm pretty sure she was performing as Liz Phair at that point though, not "girly sound".

I saw Tortoise when they were still called Mosquito. I think they were just a 4 piece (Brown/McCombs/Herndon/McEntire) at that point. They were supposed to be opening for the Ex, but customs wouldn't allow the Ex into the country!!

Saw Jim O'Rourke play a bunch of shows where he was just sort of this precocious improvising guitarist-about-town. I was at the show that produced the live cuts on this disc.

I was at the gig at the SouthEnd Musicworks which was the first time Peter Brotzmann and Hamid Drake played together. They've obviously since gone on to have a long a fruitful collaborative relationship.

Mr. Diamond (diamond), Friday, 31 October 2003 20:04 (twenty-two years ago)

flyer for concerts at rooftops, glasgow that i found in an old box
recently.(i think its from late 1987, could be wrong)
i went to the primal scream & swans shows.
didnt know about the chills then :(


http://homepage.ntlworld.com/jo.bhosle/flyer.jpg

joni, Friday, 31 October 2003 20:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Joni still weeps at the missed opportunity to see Bambi Slam.

Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Friday, 31 October 2003 20:22 (twenty-two years ago)

*sniff*

joni, Friday, 31 October 2003 20:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I saw Megadeth on their first (and only) ever Puerto Rico show.

Hey, it was their last tour also!!!
Well...
not really.
:(

Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Friday, 31 October 2003 20:29 (twenty-two years ago)

joni, i am so envious.

youn, Friday, 31 October 2003 20:36 (twenty-two years ago)

at the radiohead show, less than a month ago, apparently supergrass was so disappointed in our crowd response that they dropped out of the tour.
hopefully the lightning bolt show i went to last week will one day be considered seminal.

Felcher (Felcher), Friday, 31 October 2003 20:41 (twenty-two years ago)

i saw Courtney Love's tit in real life

JasonD (JasonD), Friday, 31 October 2003 21:03 (twenty-two years ago)

oh wait, who hasn't?

JasonD (JasonD), Friday, 31 October 2003 21:03 (twenty-two years ago)

i was at the show where DJ Shadow, Cut Chemist and Numark recorded a live sampler track (they each played their samplers, note by note, individual vocal samples, kick, snare, bass line, etc) that ended up on one of their albums? i forget maybe shadows.

JasonD (JasonD), Friday, 31 October 2003 21:05 (twenty-two years ago)

the sistine chapel

keith (keithmcl), Friday, 31 October 2003 23:10 (twenty-two years ago)

You guys suck! No one's providing that warm feeling of COMFORT!

Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Friday, 31 October 2003 23:20 (twenty-two years ago)

not sure if this counts...the Chemical Brothers at the height of Chems-mania in november 1997?

enoughrope, Saturday, 1 November 2003 00:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Radiohead w/ Steve Malkmus in Montreal. Hot Hot Heat very soon before they got signed to Warner (and rightfully so), one of the Pumpkins' last-ever shows (alas, it sucked). That's about it...only 17, mind you.

Simon H., Saturday, 1 November 2003 04:54 (twenty-two years ago)

oh, and how could I forget:

Tom Waits, in an ol' circus building in Stockholm, 1999. Amazing. Probably the best concert I've ever been to.

Radiohead, Copenhagen, 1997, before they went weird. Luv their new stuff, too, but this was just like a totally, totally pure experience. They were still enhoying playing 'Creep'! Proof: When Thom Yorke sang 'I want a perfect body', he was fondling himself on his chest and stomach. Nice.

R.E.M. in a small, 1500 people venue in Hamburg. They started out with 'Losing My Religion'.

Oh, and Beck at Roskilde Festival in 1997. The end of his Odelay period, complete with cowboy suit and everything.

Jay Kid (Jay K), Saturday, 1 November 2003 13:13 (twenty-two years ago)

1500 people is small?

keith (keithmcl), Sunday, 2 November 2003 20:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Saw a Breeders/Nirvana double bill in 1993, at what should have been called "JunkieFest." Both bands looked strung out and sounded sloppy. It was great.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Sunday, 2 November 2003 20:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Pete Seeger performed at my elementary school. I was in fourth grade (I think) at the time.

Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Sunday, 2 November 2003 20:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Washington. DC, October 1994: Soul Coughing plays their first outside-NYC show.

j.lu (j.lu), Sunday, 2 November 2003 21:05 (twenty-two years ago)

The Dismemberment Plan Dance Party at the Fireside Bowl, Chicago, February 28, 2000.

Nick Mirov (nick), Sunday, 2 November 2003 21:33 (twenty-two years ago)

PJ Harvey at Tate Modern, September 2003... first rock artist to play there.

The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 2 November 2003 21:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Bikini Kill, early '94 in a storefront church community room. No stage, I was front row two feet away from KH. Maybe it was late '94.

A few years ago I saw John Mayer with a crowd of about 100; I almost immediately got bored and wandered off!

teeny (teeny), Sunday, 2 November 2003 22:09 (twenty-two years ago)

i've seen the dead c four times in twelve years

george gosset (gegoss), Sunday, 2 November 2003 22:29 (twenty-two years ago)

the closest i've come to something seminal is hearing the avalanches first demo

the surface noise (electricsound), Sunday, 2 November 2003 22:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Oasis at the Cathouse in Glasgow third on the bill to Verve in 1993 (they were crap, Verve were good).
Belle and Sebastian at the Moir Hall in Glasgow 1996, this was amazing.

These were going to be my choices too (the second band on the bill at the Oasis/Verve thing was Acetone). I am not related to Keith. (I also saw Oasis the week before supporting St Etienne at the Plaza in Glasgow).

I guess the Manics last show with Richey and their first without him count, do they? (the Astoria, December 1994 and supporting the Stone Roses at Wembley Stadium, December 1995). Not small, but important. Actually, note of pedantry, not first show without him as he wasn't there at T in the Park in 1994 either - I was there too, obviously - but first show with the new look, stadium-friendly, pie-eating, Gap-wearing, Hoover-loving post-disappearance Manics.

I would put a shout out too for Pulp's introduction to the big time at Glastonbury '95.

ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 2 November 2003 23:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Wembley Stadium = Wembley Arena, obviously.

ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 2 November 2003 23:25 (twenty-two years ago)

In 1955-56, I attended two rock n roll shows, both, I believe sponsored by Alan Freed, although he had already left Cleveland for NYC by then. While rock n roll was already a separate entity by then (Freed used the term on radio in 1952-3 and the likes of Bill Haley was doing his version of country/r&b with a pronounced upbeat in 1953), 1955-56 was STILL a formative time for that music and the shows I saw (I was 9-10 and with my mom) had the likes of Little richard, Chuck berry, Fats Domino, Bo Diddley, the Drifters, the Coasters, and so on.....it was a heady time for me.

ed dill (eddill), Sunday, 2 November 2003 23:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh garsh. My mom saw a couple of Alan Freed joints at the Brooklyn Paramount as a teen, so she totally cuts me in the Historically Important Concert department.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 3 November 2003 00:38 (twenty-two years ago)

My mate's mum saw The Beatles playing The Cavern.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 3 November 2003 10:30 (twenty-two years ago)

I never saw Magazine either Stewart. I had a ticket for the Reading Uni gig on Magic Murder & The Weather tour and Devoto split them about a week before. I did see Devoto solo with Dave Formula on keybds in 1983 at the Lyceum. Third on the bill were The Smiths - 2nd or 3rd London gig I think.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Monday, 3 November 2003 13:57 (twenty-two years ago)

saw galaxie 500 at a bar.
mbv, pixies, morphine early on
& a bunch of others
i miss the early 90's

kephm, Monday, 3 November 2003 15:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Motorhead, 1977; Soft Boys, '77; Magazine/Simple Minds '78 (same bill); SLF/Gang of 4/Fall/ATV/Human League '79 (same bill); Fall/Dolly Mixture, '79; Gang of 4/Ruts/Misty in Roots '79; Joy Division/Killing Joke, '79; first US PJ Harvey show (TT the Bear's, Cambridge, Mass.)

Stefan, Monday, 3 November 2003 21:51 (twenty-two years ago)

wow!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 3 November 2003 21:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Is this a bunch of people thinking the word 'seminal' means 'before they were famous'?

Por moi, the most seminal is The Strokes the day their (first) album came out, due to the fact the gig was delayed cos Fab broke his hand.

So, I suppose, the first time garage was ubiquitous.

Jim Robinson (Original Miscreant), Monday, 3 November 2003 23:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Ramones open for the Runaways
SRV and on a different date Willie Dixon in an old house made into a blues club
REM opened for my band and then a year later blew my fuckin' doors off in the same little punk club

Speedy Gonzalas (Speedy Gonzalas), Tuesday, 4 November 2003 11:05 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...
I really dislike the Florida State Seminoles...and I live in Tallahassee! *wry smile*

Ian Moraine (Eastern Mantra), Saturday, 20 November 2004 14:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmmm

Blur in 95 is all for me.

my mum has some pretty incredible stories though. She saw Jimi Hendrix in an improv club with 30 other people. Had dinner with Bowie and The Rolling Stones on many occasions. Dated the guy who played the saxophone solo on 'Careless Whisper'. And Lemmy babysat my brother and sister!!!!

Hari Ashurst (Toaster), Saturday, 20 November 2004 15:03 (twenty-one years ago)

!?! It's that last part I find very amusing.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 20 November 2004 15:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I saw Primal Scream on the Sonic Flower Groove tour. They weren't very exciting (or memorable), but I did play on a quiz machine with Bobby and co. before the gig. I also played "Give Us A Break" with McCarthy when I went to see them.

I saw Kitchens of Distinction touring Love Is Hell, and saw The Pixies, supported by MBV, at some point between Rosa and Dolittle.

I managed to miss a Oasis pre-Definitely Maybe gig when I was waylaid by the Happy Hour in a local bar. We turned up in time to hear them (from the back room of the venue) play "I Am The Walrus". I think my decision to get drunk cheaply instead was the right one, looking back.

noodle vague (noodle vague), Saturday, 20 November 2004 15:26 (twenty-one years ago)

the strokes, camden monarch, 2001
white stripes @ fat tuesdays, SXSW 2001
icarus line, hard rock cafe, SXSW 2002
Yeah Yeah Yeahs, some burger bar, SXSW 2002

they were all unforgettable, 'important' shows... i feel priveleged to have been there.

stevie (stevie), Saturday, 20 November 2004 16:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Beefheart in Nashville, late '70s, that was once-in-a-lifetime.

Del Shannon in Nashville, mid-'80s, by far the most rock and roll experience of my life.

Seeing the Hi Rhythm Section back up Ann Peebles and many others in Memphis in about '91 was pretty awesome--my first time to see them.

Booker T. and the MGs in Memphis, around '93. OK, it wasn't Al Jackson but still, seeing them play was quite an honor.

And--I'm in my '40s now--I saw Three Dog Night at the Municipal Auditorium in Nashville in the early '70s.

eddie hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 20 November 2004 18:14 (twenty-one years ago)


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