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Wow.

How generically fabulous is this song by the Pale Saints?

the pinefox, Thursday, 6 November 2003 16:13 (twenty-two years ago)

It is fabulously generic.

This is also a place to talk about THE COMFORTS OF MADNESS. The rest of it is fairly marvellous but not quite as generic or as fabulous.

the flowerfox, Thursday, 6 November 2003 16:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Why exactly is "Language of flowers" so generic? Great song, great album, by the way.

Rob M (Rob M), Thursday, 6 November 2003 16:17 (twenty-two years ago)

In a whole album of wonderfulness, this song really sticks out as a paragon of Pale Saintness. It is truly a wonderous thing!

It's funny, because as soon as I saw the thread title, I thought "Hrm, that reminds me of a really good Pale Saints track... nah, couldn't be a thread about that, it's probably a band named after the Victorian book" so I'm quite pleased.

It's been so long that I can't actually remember what was my favourite song on the Comforts Of Madness. Damn, I need a new copy. It was on the B-side of "Ecstacy And Wine" which died a long time ago. Sigh.

Citizen Kate (kate), Thursday, 6 November 2003 16:18 (twenty-two years ago)

It probably is my favourite song on "Comforts of madness". Hey Kate, that must have been a great tape with those two on. It could probably fit on a CD-R, which sounds like a good idea and I'll have to do that at home tonight.

Rob M (Rob M), Thursday, 6 November 2003 16:20 (twenty-two years ago)

It was the best C90 ever. There were a couple of extra tracks on each side, too - The Chills "I Love My Leather Jacket" and some really early His Name Is Alive. Oh man, I loved that tape. It had a shiny sparkly fuscia cover, as well. I miss it so much.

(Don't suppose you want to make a copy of that CDR, do you, Rob?)

Citizen Kate (kate), Thursday, 6 November 2003 16:22 (twenty-two years ago)

God, for authenticity I could chuck those extra tracks on as well... you don't happen to know which HNIA songs they were? 8-)

I'll mail you off the board and exchange addresses and we'll sort it out.

Rob M (Rob M), Thursday, 6 November 2003 16:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Excellent! (I can't remember what HNIA tracks they were, though...)

Citizen Kate (kate), Thursday, 6 November 2003 16:27 (twenty-two years ago)

This is also a place to talk about THE COMFORTS OF MADNESS

Righty-ho.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 November 2003 16:35 (twenty-two years ago)

ian masters has moved to japan. why won't he sing? apparently there was one actual song on the mountain ocean sun thing but i feared it a mess of skull mush nonsense(pail saint ack!) and avoided it.

keith (keithmcl), Friday, 7 November 2003 03:34 (twenty-two years ago)

"sight of you" was the best Pale Saints song but the version on the album was not up to scratch. i much prefer Comforts... to In Ribbons. The first track on the non-Ian Masters PS album is ace but that's because it reminds me entirely of Melbourne band Art of Fighting.

the surface noise (electricsound), Friday, 7 November 2003 03:39 (twenty-two years ago)

i was v glad i hadn't heard the original of "fell from the sun" before i heard the PS cover of it. this way i can enjoy both versions.

the surface noise (electricsound), Friday, 7 November 2003 03:40 (twenty-two years ago)

I like the packaging (cats! tho not as shoegaze as the one on chapterhouse's whirlpool), the band name, the album title, the track names ("a deep sleep for etc"!); but apart from the opening I can never, ever recall anything about this album. Still really really want to like it, though - I might have to listen the tracks in isolation (except that the tracklisting is on the cd, not the packaging; kurse you 4ad). it's great for falling asleep to, though!
will report back.

(& my usual blah blah Ian Masters' finest moment = Spoonfed Hybrid's "Token She-Van")

etc, Friday, 7 November 2003 03:48 (twenty-two years ago)

one thing bad about this album: segues between tracks. HULK SMASH! HATE SEGUE!!

the surface noise (electricsound), Friday, 7 November 2003 03:49 (twenty-two years ago)

i like the album version of sight of you better than the one on barging into the presence of god. ride's version is poor. i translated the runes on the back of the free seven inch that came with the spoonfed hybrid record but i forget what it said. how come bear is so awful? did none of ian's greatness rub off on the other spoonfed dude?

keith (keithmcl), Friday, 7 November 2003 04:23 (twenty-two years ago)

i like Bear, patchy though. "if there's such a thing as angels" is gorgeous

the surface noise (electricsound), Friday, 7 November 2003 04:24 (twenty-two years ago)

In between bits = great.

I liked the names of the remixes better = "A Deeper Sleep For Stephen" = UTTER CLASSIC.

Citizen Kate (kate), Friday, 7 November 2003 09:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Does anyone have "Mrs Dolphin", incidentally? I'd love a copy of that - the first two EPs on CD. I remember seeing it when it came out and thinking "I'm not paying £25 for that". Now I wish I had.

Have to agree that the noisy bits between tracks are great. Didn't they all have titles at one point? And hell, they did it before the Valentines did it on "Loveless", and nobody complains about them on there, do they?

Rob M (Rob M), Friday, 7 November 2003 09:28 (twenty-two years ago)

i like the name 'flowerfox' -- you shd keep it!

geeta (geeta), Friday, 7 November 2003 09:29 (twenty-two years ago)

There is also an Irish band called Language of Flowers. In fact, I think it was they who were playing when the Pinefox and I were up at The Winchester Club last. I remember them as being rather good - although I was still basking in the afterglow of RJG's karaoke performance of 'MacArthur Park' and the memory may be consequently rosified.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Friday, 7 November 2003 11:34 (twenty-two years ago)

and nobody complains about them on there, do they?

i do. segues shit me to tears. always have and always will.

the surface noise (electricsound), Friday, 7 November 2003 11:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Sorry Jim! It's a pain if you're trying to include a track on a mix tape and you have to fade all the segue around it to make it fit.

Rob M (Rob M), Friday, 7 November 2003 11:53 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, that's definitely part of it.

the surface noise (electricsound), Friday, 7 November 2003 11:54 (twenty-two years ago)

The Comforts Of Madness suffered from a bit of a thin, splashy production but, Khrist, what a collection of tunes. "Time Thief" and "True Coming Dream" up there with the PF's fave. And the segues are grrreat.

I'll stick up for In Ribbons though - a technicolour marvel. That extended block of detuned droneriff that opens "Throwing Back The Apple" - I used to listen to that over and over.

Andy Dean to thread (he has Mrs Dolphin and a greater grasp of the PS thing than anyone I know).

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 7 November 2003 14:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, and the PF is using 'generic' in its true, neutral, non-pejorative sense, I expect.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 7 November 2003 14:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Does anyone have "Mrs Dolphin", incidentally?

Hell yes. Good thing too since I didn't in fact have the original EPs so it wasn't like I was repurchasing them.

"Why doesn't it

HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!

"

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 7 November 2003 18:06 (twenty-two years ago)

'rosified'

'detuned droneriff'

the rosefox, Friday, 7 November 2003 22:04 (twenty-two years ago)

five months pass...
> Andy Dean to thread (he has Mrs Dolphin and a greater grasp of the PS thing than anyone I know).

ha, 6 months late and stumbled across whilst searching for pale saints posts having spent a rainy bank holiday monday trying to collect everything i had onto one cdr (including the pesky 12 track 33rpm 7" Friendly Science Orchestra single which has locked grooves on both sides).

> It was the best C90 ever.
my In Ribbons sat on the other side of The Telescopes and i'd just wander around with it on repeat for days at a time. unfortunately In Ribbons wouldn't quite fit into 45 minutes so i left off a couple of the singles that i already had and to this day i'm still surprised by those two tracks when i hear it on cd.

heard the segues live before the lp came out and thought they were just ripping off the mary chain but think they make perfect sense on the lp, the second side especially. very quiet cd though.

koogs (koogs), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 11:30 (twenty-one years ago)

four years pass...

To change the forgotten subject: I now can't stop listening to the LP by the band, LANGUAGE OF FLOWERS! The lyrics are so ... asinine, but the music is so, yes, jangly, to a card-carrying degree.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 09:54 (seventeen years ago)

ps / JtN already linked to them upthread:
http://www.geocities.com/languageofflowers/

the pinefox, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 09:55 (seventeen years ago)

I like the band Language Of Flowers. Did they only do the one album? It's a few years old now isn't it?

I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 09:58 (seventeen years ago)

The Pale Saints are among my favorite bands, period. Ian Masters (glorious vocals aside) stands with Hook as far as post-punk melodic bass-playing goes IMO.

Sugar hiccup, Makes a pig soar and swoon (Pillbox), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 10:04 (seventeen years ago)

The band LoF's LP is from 2004, I think. It does bear some ill-judged items and childish words, but also some very loveable lovely guitars. Have they split?

the pinefox, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 10:08 (seventeen years ago)

Band's website has no updates since Sept 2007:

September 6th 2007
2 gigs! 19th September at The Black Box in Belfast & then 21st September in blekingska nationeni Lund, Sweden. These will be the only shows this year. Possibly ever. Should be fun. Support in Lund comes from Like Honey.

Does suggest they may have split up.

I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 10:13 (seventeen years ago)

yes, some of them are now in Help Stamp Out Loneliness

zappi, Wednesday, 12 November 2008 10:21 (seventeen years ago)

Thanks!

I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE UP TO (Colonel Poo), Wednesday, 12 November 2008 11:00 (seventeen years ago)


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