San Francisco’s calling us, the Giants and Mets will playPiazza, New York catcher, are you straight or are you gay?We hung about the stadium, we’ve got no place to stayWe hung about the tenderloin and tenderly you tellAbout the saddest ending of a book you ever had to readThe statue’s crying too and well he may
I love you I’ve a drowning grip on your adoring faceI love you my responsibility has found a place Beside you and strong warnings in the guise of gentle wordsCome wave upon me from the wider family net absurd“You’ll take care of her, I know it, you will do a better job”Maybe, but not what she deserves
Elope with me Miss Private and we’ll drink ourselves awakeWe’ll taste the coffee houses and award certificatesA privy seal to keep the feel of 1960 styleWe’ll comment on the decor and we’ll help the passer byAnd at dusk when work is over we’ll continue the debateIn a borrowed bedroom virginal and spare
The catcher hits for .318 and catches every dayThe pitcher puts religion first and rests on holidaysHe goes into cathedrals and lies prostrate on the floorHe knows the drink affects his speed he’s praying for a doorway Back into the life he wants and the confession of the benchLife outside the diamond is a wrench
I wish that you were here with me to pass the dull weekendI know it wouldn’t come to love, my heroine pretendA lady stepping from the songs we love until this dayYou’d settle for an epitaph like “Walk Away, Renee”The sun upon the roof in winter will draw you out like a flowerMeet you at the statue in an hourMeet you at the statue in an hour
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 7 November 2003 19:33 (twenty-one years ago)
the statue = willie mays statue in front of pac bell park.
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 7 November 2003 19:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 7 November 2003 19:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 7 November 2003 19:37 (twenty-one years ago)
― Felcher (Felcher), Friday, 7 November 2003 19:38 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sonny A. (Keiko), Friday, 7 November 2003 19:39 (twenty-one years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 7 November 2003 19:39 (twenty-one years ago)
is the "pitcher" shawn estes (former SF giant and NY mets teammate of piazza's, current ChiCub rated this year by baseball prospectus as one of the 5 worst pitchers in the league, reputed alcoholic who's performance is plagued by alc.consumption, attempted to "defend" piazza's honor vs. clemens in interleague play and missed badly?)
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 7 November 2003 19:44 (twenty-one years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 November 2003 19:49 (twenty-one years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 7 November 2003 19:52 (twenty-one years ago)
― fact checking cuz, Friday, 7 November 2003 20:05 (twenty-one years ago)
― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 7 November 2003 20:11 (twenty-one years ago)
I didn't focus on the religious part so much as the drinking part + the piazza's defense connection.
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 7 November 2003 20:12 (twenty-one years ago)
Estes is the best bet, and the rest is just fiction.
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 7 November 2003 20:12 (twenty-one years ago)
― fact checking cuz, Friday, 7 November 2003 20:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 7 November 2003 20:23 (twenty-one years ago)
― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Saturday, 8 November 2003 00:24 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sonny A. (Keiko), Saturday, 8 November 2003 00:44 (twenty-one years ago)
― Sam J. (samjeff), Saturday, 8 November 2003 00:50 (twenty-one years ago)
― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Sunday, 9 November 2003 06:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Sunday, 9 November 2003 07:31 (twenty-one years ago)
Say! Is it true that Sandy likes boys?
― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Sunday, 9 November 2003 16:09 (twenty-one years ago)
― cinniblount (James Blount), Sunday, 9 November 2003 16:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― dalton spencer lang, Sunday, 30 November 2003 01:23 (twenty-one years ago)
― keith m (keithmcl), Sunday, 30 November 2003 01:37 (twenty-one years ago)
― Harmony Griefstud (MichaelJ), Sunday, 30 November 2003 01:54 (twenty-one years ago)
This is a good song. Melodically, I like it now a lot more than I did the first few times I heard it. And for a Scot to write a song and weave into it this awareness of obscuro innuendo hung upon two marquee players . . . from different eras, now that's something.
― gusbot (eternal_fields), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 06:54 (twenty-one years ago)
But it's related to the fact that the pitcher is an alcoholic - "He goes into cathedrals and lies prostrate on the floorHe knows the drink affects his speed he’s praying for a doorway Back into the life he wants and the confession of the benchLife outside the diamond is a wrench"
Koufax never had a drinking problem or major personal problems.
(And the fact that Koufax is, you know, Jewish.)
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 07:01 (twenty-one years ago)
― gusbot (eternal_fields), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 07:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― gusbot (eternal_fields), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 07:07 (twenty-one years ago)
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 07:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― gusbot (eternal_fields), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 07:58 (twenty-one years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 15:31 (twenty-one years ago)
also, just a reminder to y'all about the i love baseball forum.
― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 15:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― gusbot (eternal_fields), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 16:18 (twenty-one years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 16:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― chris (chris), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 17:12 (twenty-one years ago)
And it's hard to say gygax! I have "introduced myself" so perhaps you can connect more dots over at i love beisbol.
― gusbot (eternal_fields), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 17:23 (twenty-one years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 20:25 (twenty years ago)
"Beyond that, the couple also shared a cutesy pre-game ritual: Piazza would bite a Halls cough lozenge in half, and share it with Bernaola."
He's a very nice man.
― danh (danh), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 20:38 (twenty years ago)
― robots in love (robotsinlove), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 20:39 (twenty years ago)
― danh (danh), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 20:40 (twenty years ago)
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/09/29/sports/29mets.3371.jpg
― caek, Sunday, 28 September 2008 23:58 (sixteen years ago)
what's that from
― cankles, Monday, 29 September 2008 00:03 (sixteen years ago)
Probably earlier today
― Andy K, Monday, 29 September 2008 00:57 (sixteen years ago)
take it to ILB nerds.
― ian, Monday, 29 September 2008 00:59 (sixteen years ago)