Body Language, the new Kylie Minogue LP: this is the thread for it.

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Out this month in the UK, delayed until next February for the US. It's on slsk now, and the sources are plentiful. Download it, listen to it, and weigh in.

My own early impressions: Nearly flawless (had "Red Blooded Woman" been cast aside and the album slimmed to eleven tracks, the "nearly" qualifier would have been unnecessary.)

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Sunday, 9 November 2003 19:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I like it a lot, but I think the weakest song is "After Dark" - Kylie has shown she can blend into a lot of different things, but she sounds oddly out of place here. "Loving Days" would have been a far more fitting closer - is this the Cathy Dennis one?

There aren't very many big hooks, but lots of nice grooves, ala the stronger album tracks off Fever - although at least vocally, the closest comparison would be "In Your Eyes". It all sounds much more sleekly modern than Fever, which is good too, and after a few listens, it's pretty much confirmed as a keeper.

"Chocolate" in particular has a nice slinky groove. Having said this, I genuinely think the Holly Valance album is slightly better.

― edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 9 November 2003 20:07 (twenty-one years ago)

So is the OK-but-not-greatness of "Slow" an aberration, then?

As far as singles go, Holly has pissed all over Kylie from a very great height.

― The Lex (The Lex), Sunday, 9 November 2003 20:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I think the Holly album just has more in the way of big hooks (try "Action" or "Everything I Hate", which is, of all things, a massive Girls Aloud rip-off).

Oh, and Kylie's proto-Shaznay-out-of-All-Saints rap on Secrets is adorable. (Even if it does sound a bit like the ill-advised sort-of-rap on [ugh] Savage Garden's "All Around You")

― edward o (edwardo), Sunday, 9 November 2003 20:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Having said this, I genuinely think the Holly Valance album is slightly better.

Having now heard the Holly Valance LP myself, I'm inclined to agree.

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Sunday, 9 November 2003 23:56 (twenty-one years ago)

This is awesome.

Is there a song on it as good as Love at First Sight?

― ddrake, Monday, 10 November 2003 07:17 (twenty-one years ago)

No, not even close - but LAFS is possibly the best song she's ever done.

Nothing obvious stands out as the killer second single, "Sweet Music" has a nice disco throb though.

― edward o (edwardo), Monday, 10 November 2003 08:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh man...Chocolate is incredible.
Definitely better than Slow, and I loved Slow.

― ddrake, Monday, 10 November 2003 13:42 (twenty-one years ago)

i dont' get the love for this at all - we listened to it a couple of times last night and it was bland as fuck. i'll give it another go later, but at the moment i'm very disappointed (and fever was my 2nd favourite album of 2001, so...).

― toby (tsg20), Monday, 10 November 2003 15:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I haven't heard all of the record just yet (they are still trickling in via soulseek), but oh my GOD, "Sweet Music" is absolutely perfect. I fell in love with that one immediately.

― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 10 November 2003 15:30 (twenty-one years ago)

oh, and the wasted opportunity of having green gartside in and completely burying him in the background is criminal.

― toby (tsg20), Monday, 10 November 2003 15:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Which song is Green on?

― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 10 November 2003 15:41 (twenty-one years ago)

well as long as she remembers to dig him up afterwards.

― Marcello Carlin, Monday, 10 November 2003 15:42 (twenty-one years ago)

number 10. can't remember what it's called, maybe 'someday' or something like that?

― toby (tsg20), Monday, 10 November 2003 15:45 (twenty-one years ago)

They keep trickling in - "I Feel For You" is another brilliant one. I love the vocal samples and the bassline in particular. I'm loving this record, it's making me ridiculously happy so far.

― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 10 November 2003 15:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Matthew Perpetua, I KISS YOU! (not just for agreeing with all my favourites off this, but also for posting those Hedwig tribute MP3s)

― edward o (edwardo), Monday, 10 November 2003 16:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks, Edward.

I've heard 85% of this now, and there's not one song which I don't like a lot. I don't agree that Green Gartside has been burried in the background of "Someday" - his vocals sound fairly prominent and distinct to me. He's not singing lead, but his vocals are very noticeable and present on the song, and it works.

― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 10 November 2003 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Plus, "Someday" is squelchy, therefore it is brilliant.

― edward o (edwardo), Monday, 10 November 2003 16:25 (twenty-one years ago)

This is incredible!

― mark p (Mark P), Monday, 10 November 2003 18:07 (twenty-one years ago)

The first six tracks are terrific. The rest can't quite measure up. Good album, though.

― abegrand, Monday, 10 November 2003 18:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Abegrand, do try to give "I Feel For You" another chance - that one is a real gem.

― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 10 November 2003 18:47 (twenty-one years ago)

"I Feel For You" might grow on me...I've only heard the album twice so far. My initial reaction was that the song's disco sound clashes a bit too much with the whole electro feel of the rest of the album.

― abegrand, Monday, 10 November 2003 19:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Ah, yeah, I can see where you're coming from there. It does seem slightly out of place among the electro songs. I haven't been listening to the songs in order, so I don't have a good feel for the flow of the record right now.

― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 10 November 2003 19:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I think the tracks are in the wrong order too, actually. I like listening in this order, as "Sweet Music" sounds great first thing up, and it leaves the wonderful "Loving Days" till last.

Sweet Music
Slow
Still Standing
Chocolate
Someday
Obsession
Secret
Promises
After Dark
Red Blooded Woman
I Feel For You
Loving Days

― edward o (edwardo), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 06:41 (twenty-one years ago)

didnae she write a track with Ms Dynamite, if so what is it and how does it shape up?

― mentalist (mentalist), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 06:44 (twenty-one years ago)

If you want to hear "Sweet Music," I'll have that song on my blog for a little while.

I'm okay with the running order. The only thing that I'd switch around is the last two songs, so that "Loving Days" would be the last song. It just sounds like a final song, and the mood is different from the rest of the record, so it would benefit from being isolated a bit.

― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 17:25 (twenty-one years ago)

'chocolate' = dream pop

― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 18:24 (twenty-one years ago)

"i feel for you" is kinda b-jaxxish with those cut up vocals. the album is stylistically much more diverse than Fever which initially made me like it less but now i'm not so sure. she also seems to have raised the tightrope walk of her voice between cringey/sexy with those high pitched kitten affectations. maybe a guilty pleasure (?) but i can't help but wonder how much she is salivating the way she sings in some of these tracks here.

― scissors (Honda), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 23:44 (twenty-one years ago)

this is ace! (i have only listened to the 1st 3 tracks so far)

― minna (minna), Thursday, 13 November 2003 01:57 (twenty-one years ago)

the 4th one sounds like 'at night' by shakedown

― minna (minna), Thursday, 13 November 2003 02:26 (twenty-one years ago)

the verses of 'obsession' are the same as 'losing grip', the best avril song

― minna (minna), Thursday, 13 November 2003 02:30 (twenty-one years ago)

but the chorus is nowhere as good as losing grip

― minna (minna), Thursday, 13 November 2003 02:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Reading the opinions of this on other boards, it's become apparent that few people can agree on what the best songs on this are. Must be a testament to how solid it is. (I even read one dissing Sweet Music!)

This post is actually to mention that there are two tracks on some releases. "You Make Me Feel" is nothing special, but "Slow Motion" is brilliant! A lot of people will probably import the 14-track version to hear this (or download it), and it's well worth it. Its exclusion from some formats is a travesty.

― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 13 November 2003 16:40 (twenty-one years ago)

'sweet music' will probably be the next single i think. the bridge is a great michael jackson bridge. the chorus hook sounds like 'are you that somebody'.... and even the verses remind me of something else that i can't quite place. all the hooks in this album are dragging my memory towards other songs but this isnt bad, all the songs they're echoing are great songs!

― minna (minna), Friday, 14 November 2003 01:56 (twenty-one years ago)

"red blooded woman"!!

― mark p (Mark P), Friday, 14 November 2003 02:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Are you saying that because you like it, or just to be a contrarian?

― Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Friday, 14 November 2003 03:25 (twenty-one years ago)

does anyone else find the "new sensation" line in Sweet Music a bit strange considering the Hutchence link?

― peanut (peanut), Friday, 14 November 2003 05:32 (twenty-one years ago)

how fuckin great is chocolate? (he says as he cues it up for the 13th listen)

― gaz (gaz), Friday, 21 November 2003 12:58 (twenty-one years ago)

The foodstuff or the colour?

― Lynskey (Lynskey), Friday, 21 November 2003 13:25 (twenty-one years ago)

yes!

― gaz (gaz), Friday, 21 November 2003 13:31 (twenty-one years ago)

It really sounds like it could be the background music for an ad, and be accompanied by flowing chocolate.

Silly Kylie says she's not going to do sexy videos anymore... what the hell is she going to do when she puts this out as a single, which she surely should, nay MUST?

It should be like that ad that got censored with the woman submerged in that Magnum ice-cream.

(Sweet Music was on the B-side to Slow, so it's out as far as singles go. Boo hiss etc.. wasting your best tracks as B-sides and bonus tracks on one-country editions [Slo Motion]).

― edward o (edwardo), Friday, 21 November 2003 13:31 (twenty-one years ago)

hey ed theres next to nothing of this pop stuff on yr challenge cd! thats fine, but...maybe i could convince you to do me another?

― gaz (gaz), Friday, 21 November 2003 13:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I suspect that becoming the background to a chocolate ad is the tracks' biggest wish in the universe. Corportate twatscum. Nice to dance to, but essentially twatscum.

― Lynskey (Lynskey), Friday, 21 November 2003 13:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I should do you another one but I refuse to unpack the boxes with my CDs in it coz I'm moving again soon. Oh, and because the breadth of the world of pop has only just opened in front of my eyes. Stupid pop-hating adolescence.

― edward o (edwardo), Friday, 21 November 2003 13:43 (twenty-one years ago)

later then, that'd be good!

and Lynskey: you haven't heard it, have you?

― gaz (gaz), Friday, 21 November 2003 13:44 (twenty-one years ago)

God no.

― Lynskey (Lynskey), Friday, 21 November 2003 13:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Didn't say it SHOULD be used in an ad, I was merely saying it's a ripe concept for a video. And it's the obvious second single.

Gaz, let me know in an email what pop stuff you did like and I'll try to track down similar.

― edward o (edwardo), Friday, 21 November 2003 13:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Sorry, I came up with the word "twatscum" and I was dying to use it. So, isn't erm, stuff, like, cool . . . .

― Lynskey (Lynskey), Friday, 21 November 2003 13:54 (twenty-one years ago)

like chocolate!

― gaz (gaz), Friday, 21 November 2003 13:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, chocolate is nice. I've just had a Bounty. Bounty's are nice.

― Lynskey (Lynskey), Friday, 21 November 2003 13:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I nearly made a horrible Cherry Ripe pun when I said the song was ripe for a concept.

Except I now have. I am a twatscum.

― edward o (edwardo), Friday, 21 November 2003 14:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I like Bountys too (esp dark chocolate ones) but for the weight they always seem to be over and gone too quickly, I think it must be the way they're split into two chunks providing 2 easy mouthsized portions.

If they combined them into one bar then they might provide a more satisfying bite.

― Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Friday, 21 November 2003 14:05 (twenty-one years ago)

chocolate = twats cum?

sweet.

― gaz (gaz), Friday, 21 November 2003 14:06 (twenty-one years ago)

Cherry Ripe gives you best ratio of money spent to weight, or at least it used to. I find the split of the Bounty means it takes longer to eat. Damn you, you've made me crave and I've given up sugar for the month.

― edward o (edwardo), Friday, 21 November 2003 14:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I find Bountys to be a two-bite per section deal, although I get tempted with the dark chocolate ones to get a bit more visceral with my chompage.

― Lynskey (Lynskey), Friday, 21 November 2003 14:09 (twenty-one years ago)

The good thing about the dark chocolate ones is that because lots of people don't like them, people are less likely to ask you to share.

― edward o (edwardo), Friday, 21 November 2003 14:11 (twenty-one years ago)

i know i shouldn't be mentioning this on a kylie thread but i, ah, like nuts in the chocolate. i am a rockist at hea..stomach.

― gaz (gaz), Friday, 21 November 2003 14:12 (twenty-one years ago)

(Sweet Music was on the B-side to Slow, so it's out as far as singles go. Boo hiss etc.. wasting your best tracks as B-sides and bonus tracks on one-country editions [Slo Motion]).

Eh, not necessarily. It could be a single in the US, or they may just put it out anyway. I wouldn't totally count it out. If they knew what was good for them, they'd make it a single.

― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Friday, 21 November 2003 14:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Cadbury's Whole Nut's your boy then. I think if they made a dark chocolate version I'd get very tubby very quickly.

― Lynskey (Lynskey), Friday, 21 November 2003 14:14 (twenty-one years ago)

too late!

― gaz (gaz), Friday, 21 November 2003 14:15 (twenty-one years ago)

for me that is...

― gaz (gaz), Friday, 21 November 2003 14:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Matthew, considerable precedent could be cited to show that they (actually, who is "they" here? her label? her management? Kylie herself maybe.. I would be interested in knowing who makes these decisions) do NOT know what they are doing.

― edward o (edwardo), Friday, 21 November 2003 14:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually, I'll reserve judgment on the promo of the album until I see the TV broadcast of her Money Can't Buy concert.

― edward o (edwardo), Friday, 21 November 2003 14:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Can I get me no love for the Fruit and Nut? From an old bar in the pocket of a wax jacket whilst on a bracing February jaunt around Leighton Moss nature reserve looking for Waxwings. Its been in your pocket for a bit but the chill of the winter air has kept it at the perfect balance point between friability and obduracy.

― Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Friday, 21 November 2003 14:31 (twenty-one years ago)

That is the most beautiful thing ever posted here.

― edward o (edwardo), Friday, 21 November 2003 14:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Good times, I bet, Jarl. I've always found Fruit and Nut to be a bit, I dunno, extravagant. That's why I like Bountys. You know what your getting, mmm there's the chocolate, yum there's the coconut. Classic combo.

― Lynskey (Lynskey), Friday, 21 November 2003 14:35 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah fruit andnut is maybe too much.

but
"between friability and obduracy"

check yr email ed!

― gaz (gaz), Friday, 21 November 2003 14:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Only one Cathy Dennis tune? Ballads? R&B? Bad Kylie. Bad, bad, BAD Kylie! :(

toby otm.

i'm sad to see you all loving this so much coz i'm just not feeling it. and i think 'Fever' is, bar that pointless 2step track, perfect. My favorites: Sweet Music, I Feel For You, After Dark, Slow.

― Mind Taker, Thursday, 27 November 2003 16:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Duff.

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Thursday, 27 November 2003 16:05 (twenty-one years ago)

(everything Tom has ever written abt kylie has been wrong tho', so...)

some good songs
1. "mars bars" - the undertones
2. "yorkie" - short commercial break
3. "chocolate"

― zebedee (zebedee), Thursday, 27 November 2003 16:24 (twenty-one years ago)

So mantronik produced a couple of tunes on this? Are they any good?

― Jay Vee (Manon_70), Wednesday, 10 December 2003 21:00 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I like Still Standing the best, and Sweet Music second best.

― A Nairn (moretap), Wednesday, 10 December 2003 23:35 (twenty-one years ago)

check the Chemical Brothers mix of slow

― bakhtin, Thursday, 11 December 2003 07:29 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...

Mantronik produced "Obsession" and "Promises," both great tracks.

Chocolate is amazing.

― djdee2005, Monday, 2 February 2004 20:42 (twenty-one years ago)

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