Anyway: does anyone rate Harrison vs other Beatles? Does his solo work beat Beatle work? What was the particular character / achievement of his sound (I think there is a kind of personal character embedded somewhere in his way of stringing chords together)? Which are the best solo LPs and their high points?
― the pinefox, Friday, 31 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― gareth, Friday, 31 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― tom, Friday, 31 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― dave q, Friday, 31 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Search (roughly in order): "Here Comes the Sun", "My Sweet Lord" (shameless 'He's so Fine' steal, but still a great song), "If I Needed Someone", "Love You To", "Within You Without You", "Something", "Blue Jay Way" (pssssychedelic man!!!), "While My Guitar Gently Weeps", "All Those Years Ago", "I Want to Tell You", "For You Blue"
Destroy: "Think for Yourself", "Savoy Truffle" I could live without, "Long Long Long" doesn't ring a bell...
― Joe, Friday, 31 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Harrison overdid the slide, I think - he made it his own, but it occluded his other styles (cf. early Beatles guitar solos). That wasn't quite what I had in mind re. personal sound.
ALL THINGS MUST PASS: key record? One or two rich and strange things on there: 'I Dig Love' (multiple drummers?) and especially the extraordinary (and never-mentioned) 'Awaiting On You All'.
Search: 'Long, Long, Long' (it doesn't ring a bell, it rings a glass) 'Here Comes The Sun' (those opening bars still cheer me up everytime I hear them)'Old Brown Shoe' (why do I love that 'I want a short haired girl who sometimes wears it twice as long' line so much?)'Something' (though Frank Sinatra went a bit over the top in his praise)'I Want To Tell You''Think for Yourself''While My Guitar Gently Weeps''Within You Without You''The Inner Light''Blue Jay Way' 'Love You To''I Me Mine'Lots of 'All Things Must Pass', (esp 'Isn't It A Pity', 'My Sweet Lord', 'I'd Have You Anytime', 'Wah Wah', 'Awaiting On You All' and the title track)
Destroy:'Piggies''Taxman' (sorry, I know it's a great riff, but I can't listen to it without thinking 'you greedy bastard')'Only A Northern Song' 'It's All Too Much' the third disc of 'All Things Must Pass'Probably everything he released after that.
― Nick, Friday, 31 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
I still think 'Something' is fabulous, though Q is right about the occasional lyrical lapse; version on the Anthology is astounding.
He's the coolest Beatle in Yellow Submarine, what with the standing on mountain peaks and the perpetually wind-swept hair.
― fritz, Friday, 31 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Bill, Friday, 31 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Andrew L, Friday, 31 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Search: The Green Party. Destroy: The Natural Law Party.
OK, I know my two "search" objects have nothing to do with Harrison (he *did* bankroll the NLP, didn't he?). But details, details ...
Seriously: search "Long Long Long" (his best song ever IMO), "Only A Northern Song" (I'm sorry, Nick: even *I* love that one!) and "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" even though, as MacDonald sagely notes, its song structure is pure proto-AOR. But destroy a lot of the rest, and destroy his ethos above all: it's the Sham 69 of hippiedom, the ugly meme that discredits all the good stuff.
― Robin Carmody, Friday, 31 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― gg, Friday, 31 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Curt, Friday, 31 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
I find it life-affirming. Forgetting about the third disc (everyone else does... and rightly so because it sucks eggs), those first two are an ocean of melody.
He would never do anything as good after that album and he never really seemed to care to top it. His ego just kind of disappeared after that (excepting that dopey, calculated hit single in the 80's when his mood probably changed for a time). He seemed happy to be a quiet, religious man knocking out innoucous pop rock records.
There's some good stuff there, though. Tracks like "Blow Away" and "Sue You Sue Me Blues". And his Lennon tribute (after asassination), "All Those Years Ago" is beautiful, I think. The lyrics are kinda cornball, but the melody has a lovely, shy sort of quality, I think.
As for the Beatles work, I find "Something" overrated easy listening pop, but "Blue Jay Way" is fucked up in a really nice, gurgly way. And I agree with the pro-"Long Long Long" camp. It might be my favorite Beatles track. It's very candlelit and ghostly.
I like George Harrison. A lot.
― Oliver K., Saturday, 1 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
When the "My Sweet Lord" case was finally settled, somehow George Harrison not only got to keep the rights to his song, but was ALSO awarded the rights to "He's So Fine". He now owns the song that he was accused of ripping off.
I've no idea how that happened, but it's true.
― JC, Saturday, 1 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― keith, Saturday, 1 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― X. Y. Zedd, Sunday, 2 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― dave q, Sunday, 2 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
I quite like what Oliver K has to say about ATMP, though I can't seriously rate it over the Beatles. But it has some remarkable moments, like I (we) keep saying.
Yes, those 'Something' lyrics are bad. But I think we all agree that pop != just lyrics (though lyrics may, sometimes, be important) - so for me the song is still a great.
Harrison as guitarist before he went weepy / wah-wah: Classic? (The latter style becomes too all-encompassing.)
What about the LP (eponymous?) with the song 'Faster' on it? I loved that song as a kid.
RC: I agree, NLP: terrible dud. But I wouldn't want to write off 60s- 70s Harrison's achievements just cos of that involvement (92?). Where do the Greens come in - was he funding them too, at some stage?
Relevant connection: Handmade Films. Classic element?
― the pinefox, Monday, 3 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Abbei, Monday, 3 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Curt, Monday, 3 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
I don't *think* Harrison has ever had anything to do with the Green Party. I kind of specified that it wasn't related to the subject of this thread and therefore, arguably, against the rules.
― Robin Carmody, Monday, 3 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
http://www.8trackheaven.com/Images/georgeharrisonelectronicsound.jpg
― Paula G., Monday, 24 February 2003 20:39 (twenty-two years ago)
― Paula G., Monday, 24 February 2003 20:44 (twenty-two years ago)
Classic tune no one's mentioned: Cheer Down.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 24 February 2003 20:47 (twenty-two years ago)
― Paula G., Monday, 24 February 2003 20:50 (twenty-two years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:04 (twenty-two years ago)
― matt riedl (veal), Monday, 24 February 2003 22:56 (twenty-two years ago)
― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Thursday, 23 June 2005 12:58 (twenty years ago)
Destroy: every album b/w Dark Horse and Cloud Nine.
Never mentioned: his production work on Ringo's ace "It Don't Come Easy" and co-writing the fantastic "Photograph"; also, his solo on Belinda Carlisle's "Leave A Light On."
Verdict: With some all-too-obvous exceptions, the man needs collaboraters.
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 23 June 2005 13:02 (twenty years ago)
Oh, and as for G.Harrison's lyrics...
(From Love you to)"I'll make luv to you..If you want me toooo"
Dawn: Knock yourself out, why don't you...
― mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 23 June 2005 13:03 (twenty years ago)
F that!
George wrote "Something" when he was only 25 years old! It and "Here Comes the Sun": 2 of the greatest Beatles tunes ever, period.
― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), Thursday, 23 June 2005 20:02 (twenty years ago)
― The Silent Disco of Glastonbury (Bimble...), Thursday, 23 June 2005 20:14 (twenty years ago)
Give Me Love
― PappaWheelie (PappaWheelie), Thursday, 23 June 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 23 June 2005 21:37 (twenty years ago)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 23 June 2005 21:53 (twenty years ago)
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 23 June 2005 22:01 (twenty years ago)
(but, yeah, I like "This Song" a lot too.)
― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 23 June 2005 22:02 (twenty years ago)
― darin (darin), Thursday, 23 June 2005 22:42 (twenty years ago)
"If Not for You" is another great one off that album. His voice was perfectly suited to sing those lyrics.
― Joe (Joe), Friday, 24 June 2005 00:41 (twenty years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 16:21 (twenty years ago)
― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 16:34 (twenty years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 16:39 (twenty years ago)
― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 5 July 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)
My fave track off ATMP though is I Live for You, another great melody.
I've been reading a few George interviews recently. I really like the turn of phrase he had and his gently cynical perspective.
― Bob Six (bobbysix), Monday, 10 July 2006 20:54 (nineteen years ago)
and no one else on Earth has that sweet sound he got on the slide roundabout 1969.
― veronica moser (veronica moser), Monday, 10 July 2006 21:11 (nineteen years ago)
Wilburys, Japanese tour, legal battles, dealing with Paul 'n' Beatle shit, hanging out.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 November 2022 02:15 (three years ago)
Oh yeah wilburys, of course…surprised I guess he didn’t knock out another solo album or two in that time.
― omar little, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 02:17 (three years ago)
I don't think he cared much. He had plenty of dough and had a strong enough sense of self.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 2 November 2022 02:18 (three years ago)
Yeah, I don't get the sense that he enjoyed the process enough to continuously do it. Working with Lynne and the Wilburys helped a lot and made those sessions enjoyable, but even the second Wilburys album (Vol. 3) was much less fun to do, especially for Dylan. The only reason he did the tour was because it was short and Clapton talked him into it, but it was never going to more than a one-time deal.
― birdistheword, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 14:39 (three years ago)
Hare hare, George!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yJLqVN6eJM
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 25 February 2023 14:27 (two years ago)
Stachewave
― calstars, Saturday, 25 February 2023 19:50 (two years ago)
Would've been 80 years old today! Wish we could see all of them at this age.
― birdistheword, Saturday, 25 February 2023 20:45 (two years ago)
Like
― calstars, Saturday, 25 February 2023 21:16 (two years ago)
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/george-harrison-living-in-amaterial-world-1234737644/
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 June 2023 09:53 (two years ago)
Fantastic album - his quietude as rewarding as it ever was. Even the funny stuff (Sue Me Sue You Blues) works, which can't be said so much for e.g. Extra Texture.
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Thursday, 1 June 2023 14:23 (two years ago)
Talk about a forgotbuster: #1 for weeks in the summer of 1973, not spoken of much ever since. Unavailability on CD until the early '90s didn't help.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 June 2023 17:27 (two years ago)
Cover looks modern, out of time with 1973
― calstars, Thursday, 1 June 2023 17:33 (two years ago)
Yeah, the cover is pretty good - it's now the logo for his foundation too.
― birdistheword, Thursday, 1 June 2023 21:17 (two years ago)
Talk about a forgotbuster: #1 for weeks in the summer of 1973People were still on a Beatles high, especially in the US — hell, Ringo had more top 10 singles through 1975 than John and George combined, and only two fewer than Paul. Any Major Release by any of them was cause for excitement in the moment: “Are they getting back together? Are there hidden clues in this record suggesting they might get back together? Will any of them tour? Oh wait…hm, this record is kind of boring, actually…”
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 1 June 2023 21:39 (two years ago)
This was also when the Beatles blue record came out, heavy on George songs; it wouldn't be too long before he was being treated a lot worse in the press than he was used to.
― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 1 June 2023 21:44 (two years ago)
"don't let him rate too long," the press declared.
― got it in the blood, the kid's a pelican (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 1 June 2023 22:01 (two years ago)
Not even Material World always had the best reviews. What I can never get my head around was Dark Horse then going on to miss the UK top 50 entirely, after two conseuctive mega albums (three including Bangladesh). That's insane for a Beatle.
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Thursday, 1 June 2023 22:43 (two years ago)
His 1974 tour is generally held to be a disaster, with his voice shot and his persona at his most spiritually hectoring. That can't have helped.
― Alba, Thursday, 1 June 2023 22:55 (two years ago)
The live clips aren't bad at all, and I sorta admire how he forced his audience to listen to Ravi Shankar.
― the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 1 June 2023 23:37 (two years ago)
The tour was US-only, besides which I think a lot of the tour went without an issue IIRC.
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Friday, 2 June 2023 00:18 (two years ago)
(US and Canada*)
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Friday, 2 June 2023 00:19 (two years ago)
I’ve been obsessed with “Give Me Love (Give Me Peace On Earth)” for about the last week – I literally haven’t been able to get it out of my head for more than an hour or so at a time.
― Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 12 June 2023 03:25 (two years ago)
Ha - I had that phase a few months ago.
― Alba, Monday, 12 June 2023 05:43 (two years ago)
It’s a little surprising because I wouldn’t call myself a giant fan of Harrison’s—there’s a persistently sour feeling I find hard to dismiss—and while I suppose I’ve known this song forever I’ve never really thought much about it one way or another. But there’s something undeniable about the circular chord sequence, modulations and slide guitar harmonies that collectively feel like they could go on forever. And now, I’m realizing at least two songs I wrote 25 years ago were influenced by it? Strange.
― Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 12 June 2023 12:19 (two years ago)
Got really into All Things Must Pass again this week for some reason, particularly enjoying the Art of Dying which would have been an ace Beatles track, though the released version is obviously amazing too (wish Clapton would tone it down a little though). Have been poking around at other solo Beatles things I'd not given attention to in years, including Ringo's Rotogravure, which I had on vinyl as a kid (and liked! because I didn't know any better), and remembered that Harrison's track on that record was by far the standout:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXg45wYBCcg
Harrison wrote this back during the ATMP era (or earlier? dunno) and recorded it for the album, but apparently never came up with a satisfactory take. All I've been able to find is this:
https://soundcloud.com/harrisonstories/george-harrison-whenever-ill
A real lost opportunity with this one.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 19:19 (two years ago)
I think not intended for ATMP:https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/george-harrison-legal-action-against-ringo-over-ill-still-love-you.1100437/
― Alba, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 20:04 (two years ago)
ah, didn't see that. it's weird there is so little documented truthful information about this song; when harrison recorded, whether there was or was not some lawsuit. it's kind of rare in beatles quarters for something to remain a total mystery like this.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 22:48 (two years ago)
Happy birthday, bro!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI4xzwvaTWU
― poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 25 February 2024 14:04 (one year ago)
Been listening to some of the albums I never loved. I think, even when it's not my favorite stuff, he didn't really indulge in just creating filler. Like on Extra Texture, I feel like I kinda get what he was going after with those songs and that there always seems to be some degree of musicality to the compositions that I find interesting at least.
Somewhere in England sounding pretty good to me lately.
― timellison, Friday, 5 April 2024 01:10 (one year ago)
I'm surprised no chatter over the Living in the Material World box set. The songs have never sounded so crisp. Maybe his best backup band too?
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 5 December 2024 15:48 (eleven months ago)
This tuneHas nothing bright about it
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 25 February 2025 23:41 (eight months ago)
That is all, Alfred.
― Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 25 April 2025 17:54 (six months ago)
I was so young When I was born
― Rocket from the Toonces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 26 April 2025 00:45 (six months ago)
hmm...
https://totalterra247.com/2025/05/04/good-news-netflix-has-officially-announced-the-release-of-a-groundbreaking-new-documentary-series-spotlighting-of-george-harrison-a-story-of-grit-glory-and-brotherhood-espn-reports/?fbclid=IwY2xjawKHCe5leHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETE2TmpHeFNSZlA2WmhiRUVmAR4vdzTD7I4XmkhQvZd806txF-I_oS7xzeOa0c9VSU9hqIjuybBPbKDL5oP4Cg_aem_dqHbmWgM2IG3NbVZy0n3yw
― bookmarkflaglink (Darin), Tuesday, 6 May 2025 15:35 (six months ago)
Errm, where did you come across that website?
― Alba, Tuesday, 6 May 2025 15:50 (six months ago)
Facebook hence the "hmm"
― bookmarkflaglink (Darin), Tuesday, 6 May 2025 16:02 (six months ago)
Jesus didn't realise FB algo had got quite that shit.
― Alba, Tuesday, 6 May 2025 16:05 (six months ago)
I saw one for Elvis Costello - same template. Bots I guess?
― birdistheword, Tuesday, 6 May 2025 16:21 (six months ago)
I read right down to the bottom in horror where it said "Want a viral trailer title, social teaser, or thumbnail caption for this?"
― Alba, Tuesday, 6 May 2025 16:24 (six months ago)
LOL I've become my mother apparently.
― bookmarkflaglink (Darin), Tuesday, 6 May 2025 16:36 (six months ago)
wrack my brain indeed
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 May 2025 16:40 (six months ago)
Yeah, plus: how could that brisk 712-part Scorsese documentary on Harrison ever be topped?
― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 7 May 2025 05:00 (six months ago)
I wish they'd pick a more ridiculous act for these hoaxes, like R.E.O. Speedwagon.
― birdistheword, Wednesday, 7 May 2025 05:21 (six months ago)
I would watch a seven-hour REO Speedwagon doc.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 7 May 2025 14:42 (six months ago)
A 90 minute "special episode" devoted entirely to Kevin's changing hairstyles
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 7 May 2025 15:08 (six months ago)
― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 7 May 2025 17:27 (six months ago)
Crap, beaten
― Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 7 May 2025 17:28 (six months ago)
There's room for everybody's hair jokes in this Speedwagon
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 7 May 2025 17:44 (six months ago)
See? Endless possibilities had said hoaxer gone in that direction.
― birdistheword, Wednesday, 7 May 2025 18:37 (six months ago)
From now on, I'm putting excessive periods into R.E.O. Speed.wagon.
― birdistheword, Wednesday, 7 May 2025 18:38 (six months ago)