Everyone needs to go and see Lederhosen Lucil.

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I you live in London and are available on November 17...go and see Lucil and Kid Koala at Lock 17. (just a little plug) I would, however, be very interested in opinions on her stuff!

― cybele (cybele), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

good god no, please don't fuel the Lederhosen fire. Go see Kid Koala - he is a wonder, and his last couple batches of shows have been delights (turntablism with bingo and slides and prizes!). Lederhosen Lucil, however, is second-rate synthpop that the Montreal indie kids have decided it's "okay' to like - she has, consequently, permitted them to ignore all other (non-ironic) pop music. She is a plague, and also mediocre.

― Sean M (Sean M), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 16:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought Lucil went on a bit too long - maybe 5 songs would have been enough - but some of the songs and patter were hilarious, I thought.

[in German accent]

"Doess anybody here know about non-linear editing? Diss song ees about vat happens ven sings go wrong in de Avid studio!"

I'm going to be buying any CDs or anything, but I was relatively entertained.

Koala rules.

― southern lights (southern lights), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 18:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Sean, why so mean? A plague?!

― cybele (cybele), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 19:36 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, lederhosen lucil is great!

― s1utsky (slutsky), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 19:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Cybele remember when we decided it was "okay" to like lederhosen lucil? and to ignore all non-ironic pop music? best decision of my life!

― s1utsky (slutsky), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 19:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Ah! Free from earnestness. How nice it is! Irony rulz u r all gay.

― cybele (cybele), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 20:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Up there I mean to say I'm not going to be buying any CDs . . . but I haven't had any sleep, so I cannot express myslef.

― southern lights (southern lights), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 20:41 (twenty-one years ago)

or myself. yikes. off to sleep.

― southern lights (southern lights), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 20:42 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm sorry for the ire, cybele + s1utsky, but when I saw l.l. at salla, the middlingness of her performance (paired with the ironic pop orgasms of the crowd) were driving me crazy. i can appreciate that you both enjoyed her music, but I found it genuinely mediocre - more than that, though, I think her main cachet is as token-pop... and that does a disservice to all of the dazzling and unappreciated poptunes of the world. i would love to see a Fun Revolution (VIVA!) where the indie hipsters stop spouting nonsense about "guilty pleasures," but i feel like lederhosen lucil is going to be the whimper that lets all the steam out. ("man, they played "hey ya!" in the preshow and lederhosen lucil is HILARIOUS. that was so good. i'm glad i got that our of my system.")

feel free to make fun of me some more - i probably deserve it.

― Sean M (Sean M), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 21:43 (twenty-one years ago)

thing is sean I don't think anyone is like "well, I like lederhosen lucil, so now I don't have to listen to any more pop music!"

― s1utsky (slutsky), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 22:43 (twenty-one years ago)

like, it's fine with me that you don't like her, not everyone does (and I'm not her biggest fan in the world, though I get a kick out of her tunes & shtick)--but claiming that people "decide" to like her for cachet is kinda insulting and lame. also, as above, I really can't imagine anyone ignoring pop music because they already have a lederhosen lucil record.

I guess all I'm saying is you coulda made a better argument against her music than attacking her fans for imagined crimes against pop.

― s1utsky (slutsky), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 22:50 (twenty-one years ago)

but claiming that people "decide" to like her for cachet is kinda insulting and lame

you're probably right; i'm sorry. i don't know lederhosen lucil's music very well at all (again, just from one show), and that, paired with the flat mediocrity of it, dissuaded me from addressing the songs directly. it's hard to get worked up about music that doesn't.

i guess what i find frustrating is just that the l.l. show i attended seemed like a celebration of ironic indie rock in opposition to irony-free, "stupid" pop music.

I really can't imagine anyone ignoring pop music because they already have a lederhosen lucil record.

i mean this is the thing: i think that an enormous proportion of the kids that night would have snickered at me, the next afternoon, if I had told them I bought (something even as obviously-good as) the "Crazy in Love" single.

― Sean M (Sean M), Tuesday, 11 November 2003 23:45 (twenty-one years ago)

disagree! lots of mtl indie kids love that song, I know that for a FACT (cuz I've played it at benefits and stuff and they all go nuts)

― s1utsky (slutsky), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 00:41 (twenty-one years ago)

sean, which show was it? only time I saw her was with the parka 3 @ sala, but I wouldnt call them a celebration of ironic indie rock, so maybe it's was a different one. She really didn't make an impression on me but yeah mediocre is the way I remember it...

― Elliot (Elliot), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 01:47 (twenty-one years ago)

lots of mtl indie kids love that song

oh - agree! agree most strongly! but is the bulk of Lederhosen Lucil's audience made up by that fun-loving cross-segment? (presumably i say 'yes' and you say 'no'... this debate is a bit of a dead-end.)

with the parka 3 @ sala...
that's the one. and you're right - the Parka 3 aren't about ironic indie rock - they're wonderfully honest and fun and party. which is why i felt so down when L.L. came on stage: it felt like the tone of the room had shifted, and that if P3 had played last, they would have been laughed at.

― Sean M (Sean M), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 03:22 (twenty-one years ago)

well I don't know if they are or they aren't, I can only speak for "my people"

― s1utsky (slutsky), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 05:24 (twenty-one years ago)

i've never cared much for lederhosen lucil. her schtick is kind of annoying, and she possesses an ever lesser command of the casio than the great wesley willis. maybe she'd have a succcessful career performing a cabaret act off broadway with miss pussycat; her sickly sweet cuteness would be balanced by miss pussycat's creepiness.

― ansel, Wednesday, 12 November 2003 05:38 (twenty-one years ago)

ansel: come on.
I don't know why any of you people don't actually listen to her lyrics. She's a pretty smart cookie and I'd hardly say that "Box Fight," and the rest of Parka 3's oeuvre, however entertaining the music of a gang of dorm-room Mcgillicuddies may be, compares to L.L.'s brand of creative and clever pop. She's particularly good when backed by a full band.

― cybele (cybele), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 15:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Lederhosen Lucil still have trading cards?

She was very entertaining live, but there is only so much you can do in that role.
between her and Gesundheit I can't stop laughing some times.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 15:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I agree with all of cybele's points save the last one, I really prefer her with just the keyboard; when I saw her with the band it was more of a straight-up rock thing which I was into much less.

― s1utsky (slutsky), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 15:45 (twenty-one years ago)

She has a band now?

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 15:46 (twenty-one years ago)

She did for one performance, I don't think it's a permanent thing. I hope not.

― s1utsky (slutsky), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 16:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Do you see her with the lovely fiddling Sarah?

― cybele (cybele), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 16:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I've only ever seen her play with two keyboards, though she had trading cards one time. She should hope aboard the Lullabye Arkestra.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 16:57 (twenty-one years ago)

i think we'd all feel better if we battled this out box style.
let's at meet at upper rez. tonight at midnight. beers and foozeball afterwards. party on.

― ddd, Wednesday, 12 November 2003 22:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Boxes get broken...but friendship never ends!

― Elliot (Elliot), Wednesday, 12 November 2003 23:08 (twenty-one years ago)

there was no fiddling, just rockin' dudes

― s1utsky (slutsky), Thursday, 13 November 2003 02:14 (twenty-one years ago)

okay i'll confess, i actually really like her "cousin's" rock band.

― ansel (noughtme), Friday, 14 November 2003 04:53 (twenty-one years ago)

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