French House: Classique ou 'Dud'

the rest: Cassius: bag o'shite Motorbass: forgetable St.Germain: utter MOR shite

louie vega is like kenny dope without the range. kenny dope knows his hip-hop, his dancehall, his ghetto house, etc. louie vega is a bit too tied up (or rather tied down) to his latin/garage roots.

also the chunkiness of these guys (and many, many other deep house producers) is suspicious. how am i supposed to trust these guys with the club beats when they look like they haven't been on a dancefloor in YEARS? dj funk and jeff mills on the other hand look like maybe they have their production gear strapped on the front of a treadmill or something.

to tie this back in to the original point of the thread, french house = classique because there's a real familial vibe to the scene that is probably only duplicated in the cologne scene. chicago and detroit seem a bit compromised by press and attention, whereas the scene MaW are from is a bit weighed down by tradition and heritage and all that. you get the sense, as you get in to french house, that the different crews in french house (cassius/motorbass, daft punk/crydamoure, ark/oizo, etc) are genuinely tightly-knit and supportive of each other, active participants in a vibrant scene based around MAD PARTYING instead of just professional courtesy and industry good manners and so on.

things were really good w/french house when it was crydamoure/roule/we rock/20000st... i remember tim or somebody on another thread way back when mentioning that french house was totally "bling" and that's spot on... the new school french house (justice and friends) seems extremely un-decadent in comparison but i suppose that's the rock/indie influence creeping in. meanwhile lifelike and braxe/falke keep sliding into this weird trance-esque thing (the idea of which i like, but there haven't been a lot of great tracks to come out of it yet)

meanwhile, poopy filterhouse has gone practically international...but yeah i really dug those few years of endless stardust clones.. it's gone completely haywire now..

i did indeed mean to type poopy and not poppy

Not much dance music sounds very bling at the moment :-( The Thin White Duke remixes of a few years ago were the last gasp. Some cosmic disco etc might fill this category if it was faster.

I'm shocked at Omar's opinion of Cassius!!

what's this Braxe 'Addicted' thing on Kitsune? close to the turbo-crunk i've been waiting for.

That intersection of French house and trance has SO MUCH potential that I wish a few more producers would just go all out with it.

Braxe remix of Annie- Heartbeat is soo goood.

there's a remix of "crockett's theme" on this todd terje mix that's sort of like blingin trancey space disco

possibly this

Steve, yes le cronque, but not a floor filler in my limited experience thus far...

Still awesome though, could maybe use a running kick through the "verse" sections.

Not much dance music sounds very bling at the moment

Hmm, there's a bunch of really great southern rap house edits floating around. ESTAW's "refix" of Rich Boy - "Throw Some D's" is seriously blingy (though ESTAW is Dutch). Sounds like Todd Terry producing Three 6 Mafia.

The first time i used 'bling' though spencer i wasn't referring to rap, more this notion of house music as really shiny and plasticky and perfect-sounding - house as decadent largesse. Very much a post-Discovery aesthetic (if i recall the term I actually used was "melted bling"). To the extent that most of the big electro-house sounds very dirty or rock-ish it kinda avoids this vibe.

'Bling' in the sense you mean is also great. I should send you some of these Jess & Crabbe radio mixes Vahid made me - astonishing stuff.

^^^im interested in those also

Hmm, there's a bunch of really great southern rap house edits floating around. ESTAW's "refix" of Rich Boy - "Throw Some D's" is seriously blingy (though ESTAW is Dutch). Sounds like Todd Terry producing Three 6 Mafia.

-- Spencer Chow, Tuesday, January 15, 2008 2:34 AM (58 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

i like this pretty well, i kind of wish it had more gloss tho
its weird cuz it sounds gritty but nowhere near as gritty as home grown chicago house so its kind of cool but also bizarrely MOR

i do realize its doing something v. different groove-wise but that rugged vibe is such an overwhelming part of it! maybe even trumps it