POX -- Unreleased Prince

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I'm carting this over from the regular POX Prince thread to see if it gets any more hits...
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My list:

Just My Imagination (M very right about this one)
Extra Loveable
You (original late-'70s punk version)
A Case of You (any version)
Electric Intercourse
Possessed (vocal version)
A Place in Heaven
Data Bank
Rebirth of the Flesh
Appolonia 6, Sex Shooter

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and -- Jay Vee (ziut...), November 14th, 2003 4:18 PM.

Purple Music
In All My Dreams
The Grand Progression
Extra Loveable
A Place In Heaven
Lisa
Empty Room
Electric Intercourse
God Is Alive
Wet Dream Cousin

Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 15 November 2003 05:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Let's don't be shy. This catalog is almost as rich as his "legitimate" one.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 15 November 2003 05:41 (twenty-one years ago)

damn.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Saturday, 15 November 2003 08:02 (twenty-one years ago)

I was a chauffeur for a couple of years and drove the Purple Child and the NPG for a couple of weeks. The tour photog played me some shit that was recorded in a club in Paris at 4am. OMG.

Speedy Gonzalas (Speedy Gonzalas), Saturday, 15 November 2003 08:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Just My Imagination (M very right about this one)

YESSS!!!!!

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Saturday, 15 November 2003 08:23 (twenty-one years ago)

We talk about black men who played mean guitar, and we talk about Jimi, of course, and then we talk about... Vernon Reid? Oh, so Prince is just chopped liver, right?

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Saturday, 15 November 2003 09:11 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
Just looking at old shit and fuck all of you for letting this thread die!

Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 15 December 2003 07:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Aw, y'all are some true cold bastards.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 15 December 2003 17:50 (twenty-one years ago)

I can take a hint.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 18:18 (twenty-one years ago)

No, talk more about unreleased Prince! I want to know what to look for!

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 18:21 (twenty-one years ago)

Will someone tell me if Crystal Ball is worth $15? Rasputin's have a used copy that is crying out to me?

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 18:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I mean "!".

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 18:38 (twenty-one years ago)

You can and should get this kind of stuff from places like alt.binaries.prince.

The best guide on the web:

http://www.smallclub.org/

The ones you want (I'm old school so anything beyond SOTT is sorta not worth it to me)

#1 - The Avenue (2 discs) is the debut show in August of 1983 by Wendy Melvoin. A fucking awesome show, and some of the live tracks formed the basis of the tracks on Purple Rain. A must.

#2 The Work (Volumes 1&2, 8 discs total) - studio outtakes that run from 1976 or so through 1988. Fucking totally amazing. Read Posssessed and you can hear what's on them. Awesome.

#3 Small Club 2nd Night. Legendary aftershow.

#4 SOTT Rehearsals. Awesome quality, hear how Prince runs the band through the songs before they hit the road.

#5 Purple Rush - Purple Rain tour rehearsals in 1984. Amazing.

don weiner, Tuesday, 16 December 2003 18:48 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm really fond of the city lights providence 1983 also

cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 18:54 (twenty-one years ago)

If you can get a hold of Testament, do so. It's mp3's of just about every unreleased track + demos + stuff written for others. It's really almost too much , and most of the stuff post '89 is crapulous, but all in all really incredible.

As far as live: I'm partial to my Lovesexy rehearsals. SOTT rehearsal collected as "Now's The Time" is better (!) than SOTT itself, in parts. And cinniblount is OTM about City Lights Providence. It's one of the freakiest Prince sets I know. Prime 1999-era electrofunk sleaze.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Tuesday, 16 December 2003 22:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I may not have asked, but damn, is this thread useful!

Barima (Barima), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 15:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Very funny, guys. I had an elaborate series of pathetic-hostile bumps planned out for this thread. I just didn't use 'em fast enough.

"Wake up Wendy!"

I have the first two (out of the five!) 4 disc sets of The Work and that's basically where the better portion of my POX list came from. There's so much good stuff in there. It's sad that he hasn't released proper _legal_ versions of it.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 15:41 (twenty-one years ago)

You would think Prince would wise up to the fact that so much stuff has been leaked.

And since this summer will mark the 20th anniversary of Purple Rain, wouldn't it be a great time to commemorate that event with an expanded, remastered reissue?

don weiner, Wednesday, 17 December 2003 17:04 (twenty-one years ago)

four months pass...
I wish Prince hadn't unleashed his lawyers on guide2prince.org. That was an absolutely essential site.

Just listening to "The Line," which is cold hard urban speedfunk, Prince's early contribution to the Wipeout XL soundtrack. A new favorite.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 29 April 2004 07:09 (twenty-one years ago)

the March 1987 SOTT tour rehearsal at First Avenue is pretty wonderful. I really wish he'd just do what the Grateful Dead (and now Fugazi) do and put out loads of shows.

Matos W.K. (M Matos), Thursday, 29 April 2004 07:17 (twenty-one years ago)

For those willing to spend the $60, this may be all you'll ever need. I might splurge.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:27 (twenty-one years ago)

OH MY GOD ERIC I must have that!!!!!!

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I would like both that AND the book.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:38 (twenty-one years ago)

"The Line" is amazing. Great co-lead vocals from the late Boni Boyer on that. I always enjoyed her.

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Thursday, 29 April 2004 13:44 (twenty-one years ago)

I too must have that book!!! It will sure look funny on the shelf next to Matos' cute little book, though.

(Um... I'm reading it again, and now I think I should stress that "the Line" was not, in fact, actually written for the XL soundtrack but rather sounds like he was anticipating its sound way back in '87. Still, I can supply a not-perfect-sounding copy of it, if need be.)

Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 29 April 2004 20:29 (twenty-one years ago)

While we're on the topic of Prince, is Musicology any good?

I have 9 Prince cds...obviously I like the man's work, but the farthest forward I go is The Gold Experience, which did not impress me at all. It seemed too much like him trying to "adapt to the 90's" and the "hip-hoppy" tracks sound extremely dated and stereotypical rather than authentic. Not to say the album is awful, it's got some bonafide great tunes on it, but it falls flat. Which is too bad, cuz "Most Beautiful Girl in the World" rules...

The bits I've heard of Musicology haven't impressed me much, but I have heard no entire songs, and as we know, real audio samples don't tell you shit about an album.

To let you get some idea what i'm looking for, tho, I was a biggest fan of Prince on these albums:

Around the World in a Day (too "white"? Is that a real criticism?)
Dirty Mind
1999
Purple Rain
Lovesexy

uh, Thursday, 29 April 2004 20:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Musicology sounds a lot like The Gold Experience, part 2, only the songs aren't as good. In my opinion. Still it's lyrically one of the more coy, crowd-tickling things he's done lately.

Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 29 April 2004 23:33 (twenty-one years ago)

By the way: 900 grams = 1.984160228434162 pounds

Eric H. (Eric H.), Thursday, 29 April 2004 23:36 (twenty-one years ago)

"Rebirth of the Flesh" may be my favorite unreleased track of his, but there's an extended mix of "Housequake" that's brilliant, too...

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Friday, 30 April 2004 13:30 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...

desire
le grind
we can fall/funk (original version)
all day, all night
dance electric
rebirth of the flesh
housequake (u know that weird extended version?)

umm...


piscesboy, Monday, 19 July 2004 10:50 (twenty-one years ago)

dude somebody pimped the DVD version of The AVENUE onto the newsgroups while ILX was down.

Needless to say, awesome. A couple of cameras, maybe three. Can't figure out why Prince keeps it locked up.

Performance is awesome. Wendy's first show, this is the one where base tracks for several of the Purple Rain songs were recorded.

dan carville weiner, Monday, 19 July 2004 11:05 (twenty-one years ago)


so let me get this right, this is a DVD (!!!!) of the 'first avenue 83' show that the vocals from purple rain were from?

is this soulseek-able? love it!

piscesboy, Monday, 19 July 2004 13:27 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, I downloaded it in .rar format. Took awhile, even on high speed.

It's from August 1983 (date and details excape me but if you google "The Avenue" bootleg you can get all the gory details.)

I didn't know there was a video out there but have had the bootleg CD for years. I found it in alt.binaries.multimedia.prince. As for it being on SoulSeek, I have no idea.

The amazing thing (to me) was not only the quality, which is excellent, but seeing the fans at the First Avenue. They aren't dancing at all, just watching.

dan carville weiner, Monday, 19 July 2004 14:00 (twenty-one years ago)

fuck yes!!! thanks don!!

Sir Chaki McBeer III (chaki), Monday, 19 July 2004 17:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Sounds amazing! How can I get this? Dan? Chaki? Anyoooone?

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Monday, 19 July 2004 20:24 (twenty-one years ago)

anybody who wants this can email me (pabloloserama@hotmail.com) and we can work something out.

dan carville weiner, Tuesday, 20 July 2004 10:22 (twenty-one years ago)

four months pass...
as a rule, i find anything made by prince up to about 1988 is brilliant. after that, it wasnt only his official output that began to slide.

titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Monday, 29 November 2004 21:15 (twenty years ago)

Prince has material for a marvellous box set once he decides to release one.

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 00:40 (twenty years ago)

i cant see him ever agreeing to it. i think he'll do a complete botch job if he does a la crystal ball.

the best box sets of prince are the bootleg boxes called 'the work'.

titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Tuesday, 30 November 2004 00:57 (twenty years ago)

three years pass...

Lisa
Tick, Tick, Bang
Feel U Up / Irresistable Bitch
Moonbeam Levels
Electric Intercourse
Others Here With Us
Data Bank
A Place In Heaven (Lisa version)
Teacher, Teacher
In A Large Room With No Light

Milton Parker, Monday, 24 March 2008 21:58 (seventeen years ago)

no rebirth of the flesh?

chaki, Monday, 24 March 2008 22:09 (seventeen years ago)

i haven't heard any of this stuff ;_;

Jordan, Monday, 24 March 2008 22:11 (seventeen years ago)

two months pass...

rebirth of the flesh is so fucking good.

titchyschneiderMk2, Monday, 2 June 2008 11:39 (seventeen years ago)

Finally got around to hearing the show with the "Just My Imagination" cover. I'm not as knocked out by the guitar as Eric and Matos are, but, boy, can the little man sing. Awesome version of "D.M.S.R." too.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 2 June 2008 13:27 (seventeen years ago)

that temptations cover has a few brilliant sections but the synth hasnt dated well.

titchyschneiderMk2, Monday, 2 June 2008 14:50 (seventeen years ago)

eleven months pass...

didnt know where else to put this.

trent reznor on prince bragging about all his amazing unreleased material:

"I’m not Prince or Rivers Cuomo who brags about having hundreds of great songs,” Reznor said. “And to that I would say, Prince, if you have a hundred great songs or a thousand, how about picking a few and putting them on your record that you’ve put out because your last several have sucked. Same for you, Rivers. I say that constructively, you know.”

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 8 May 2009 13:10 (sixteen years ago)

Hahaha where did THAT appear.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 May 2009 14:57 (sixteen years ago)

some interview or twitter maybe?

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 8 May 2009 15:09 (sixteen years ago)

he's got a point about how there's kind of a 'put up or shut up' thing w/ artists who constantly allude to huge backlogs of unreleased material. but Prince is really kind of the wrong guy to make that argument to, since he does have a huge number of great unreleased songs (which he wouldn't put on a new record just because they're mostly pretty old).

apparent goals of sexiness and detailed vagina mapping (some dude), Friday, 8 May 2009 15:14 (sixteen years ago)

he could put out some archive releases if he wanted to... prob a good thing he doesnt though, going from crystal ball.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Friday, 8 May 2009 15:24 (sixteen years ago)

well supposedly that's one of the aims of the lotusflow3r site, but i guess time will tell if that pans out.

Briney Deep Coralgarden (some dude), Friday, 8 May 2009 15:28 (sixteen years ago)

he could put out some archive releases if he wanted to... prob a good thing he doesnt though, going from crystal ball.

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Sell back 'Crystal Ball' and download a copy of 'The Work Volume 1, 1976-1984'

Then check yourself

Milton Parker, Friday, 8 May 2009 17:33 (sixteen years ago)

This thread is way too short

Milton Parker, Friday, 8 May 2009 17:34 (sixteen years ago)

wonderful ass = my favorite prince song

iatee, Friday, 8 May 2009 21:01 (sixteen years ago)

There's a few 1 minute snippets floating around of some songs he was shopping to labels in the 80's as possible demos for their artists. Some of these are pretty 0_0. Search "Traffic Jam" or "Cosmic Dream" for more reasons to bemoan his relative suckiness nowadays.

Capitaine Jay Vee, Saturday, 9 May 2009 06:38 (sixteen years ago)

xpost Wonderful Ass is truly wonderful

Capitaine Jay Vee, Saturday, 9 May 2009 06:38 (sixteen years ago)

"Then check yourself"

ive heard most of the tracks on those work albums (theyre not self-released btw, so i dont need to check myself), the quality starts to drop off quite a bit after the 80s. but yeah, around the mid/late 80s, he had at least about 5 albums worth of quality stuff to release. i wouldnt mind seeing him do a dylan style official bootlegs series. but i know he wont. and if he does the packaging would be awful.

titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Saturday, 9 May 2009 16:47 (sixteen years ago)

Prince and Springsteen, just to name a couple of broke-big-in-the-'80s workaholics, have at least a handful of quality albums they could craft out of the archives, but likely never well. Sadly, those ships have sailed, I think.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 9 May 2009 17:03 (sixteen years ago)

around the mid/late 80s, he had at least about 5 albums worth of quality stuff to release

pardon my silly comment, prince reverts me to high school and I misread your comment as thinking Prince was only bluffing -- I absolutely agree with you, Crystal Ball is only evidence that Prince has no idea which of his unreleased songs are worth putting out. drag yourself down to our fanboy level and post your 10, why not

Milton Parker, Sunday, 10 May 2009 05:16 (sixteen years ago)

Crystal Ball's almost worth it for 'Cloreen Bacon Skin' though

Milton Parker, Sunday, 10 May 2009 05:17 (sixteen years ago)


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