how long do you persevere?

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your favourite band. you've got, like, just about all their records. every time a new record comes out, wow, even better than the last one. can these dudes do no wrong? cool, there's a new record out. it's..., um, y'know, it's really good, no it is. maybe it'll grow on me, ok ok, its not as obvious as the others, that doesn't mean its not as good. no i do like it, really, i'm just not in the mood for that kind fo stuff at the moment.

they've got another record out now! this'll be better, i'm not going to get it just yet though, there's a couple other cds and books i need to pick up. i'll get it some time next month.

a new record? again? i, um, i'll tape it off John.

so, which bands do you persevere with when, deep down, you don't really like their records anymore. sure they're ok but..., and how long did you keep faith with them till you gave up?

for me, Stereolab, with Dots&Loops being the record i tried to like, didn't bother with that Microbe hunters thing. at the moment Piano Magic have become the band i'm doing this with (haven't liked anything since Low Birth Weight) - and the new one is dull again.

could have done this with arab strap, tindersticks, spiritualized, high llamas, mogwai and all those other 90s dudes, but didn't persevere at all with them

gareth, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't persevere. I go through a period where I'll praise them to no end. But then after the third record, I usually give up. See Fleetwood Mac, Velvet Underground, Pixies,...

nathalie, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

See, my record buying is fantastically haphazard. The amount of money I have to buy records is wildly out of proportion with how much I love music, and therefore it's rare for me to buy many records by the same band (I prefer to just randomly pick something that looks nice and is quite cheap out of the electronica section- most of the time this works wonderfully).

The only bands that seem to have mounted up (The Telescopes, Leonard Cohen & Kreidler, from a cursory glance) have been ones that I've bought retrospectively. I was only about 13 when the Telescopes split up, so I had plenty of time to ransack the back catalogue. I think Mr Cohen may have had something to do with being plentiful in the 2nd hand shops...

Kreidler, hmm, I have no idea. The albums I have were bought after the fact, but I have no idea why I chose them over anything else of that ilk. Ah well.

Oh, and needless to say, I _will_ be buying the new Telescopes album. This has more to do with the fact that I am expecting it to be very good, rather than any sense of loyalty to favourite band regardless of quality.

emil.y, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

NEW Telescopes album!!?? LINK please, container driver!!!

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|\|0|2/|\4|\| |=4'/, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

i thought they were Unisex?

gareth, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

good god, don't any bands just GIVE UP anymore?

cw, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

They are Unisex still.

Steven Telescope, however, is busting a move and creating New! Fresh! Telescopes material. Go to Double Agent and there should be some info there.

emil.y, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Good question - I think we had a similar one before, called something like "How loyal are you", but it deserves more discussion.

I have a loosely adhered-to rule that something 'new' and possibly slightly 'risky' should win out over a safe 'loyal' choice when I'm trying to decide between a couple of albums to buy. (I don't always stick to this - if I've got the cash I'll get both, or positive comments from friends/ILM/the press might swing it in favour of the so-called safe choice).

Anyway, for me this question can mainly applies to currently active artists. I tend to buy back catalogue in a random order anyway, or in chunks, so it's not really possible to say whether or not I'm 'persevering'. I rarely rush out and buy things right away, in the knowledge that everything is available second-hand or in a sale sooner or later. That introduces a third element - price. I'll get, say the last Orbital album for 5 or 6 quid, solely as a solid, rather than potentially exciting new buy.

Some artists?

Tindersticks - haven't evolved despite the addition of a hardly detectable 'soul' element and slightly more lush production. Yet somehow I know I'll get the new album sooner or later.

Stereolab, High Llamas - (aren't they the same now anyway?) - I've given up. With the former I stupidly bought the one after the wretched Dots and Loops in case it was a blip. It wasn't. With the High Llamas I bought Gideon Gaye - hated it, persevered, thought I liked one or two tracks, bought Hawaii, and realised that I was right all along - dull,dull, dull.

XTC - tried to like Mummer, Big Express and Oranges and Lemons. Should've given up for good after English Settlement, Skylarking excepted.

A Certain Ratio - the only one you need after To Each... and Sextet is Force, but I bought the bloody lot up to Change the Station or something.

Afghan Whigs - bought Gentlemen. Didn't like it much, but ended up with Black Love and 1965 too. They've all gone now!

Dr. C, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Re: XTC

Recently, Skylarking: good O&L: bad Nonsuch: good AV1: good Wasp Star: bad

The problem is, I never know when they'll pop out a really good one, so I have to buy all of them.

dleone, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Thank you to my big helper Dr.C for remembering the name of the thread where we discussed this question before

Nick, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

The joy of mp3s, I've found -- don't wanna buy the latest thing by somebody that disappointed you in the past? Download and forget about it.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

pearl jam were like that...after vitalogy, everything rocked esp no code...but once the live album (official, 1st one) binaural kinda slipped me by and suddenly I didn't want to rock anymore...

Geoff, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

This was in danger of happening to me with The Cure. Fortunately, _Bloodflowers_ turned out to be fantastic.

Dan Perry, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

David Bowie.

Bought "Scary Monsters" when it was released (one of my first LP purchases, btw), and have since bought everything before and since... but nothing he's done since "Let's Dance" has really jazzed me that much. Oh yeah, I tried to like Tin Machine, and "...hours" has its moments, but I've watched my boyhood hero devolve into mediocrity for some time now. Of course, I'll still buy every goddam thing he puts out.

Sean, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Hahaha, gareth - that situation you describe sounds just like what I went through with Moonspell!

Kodanshi, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

My motto is it's better to bail early and risk missing out on something good. If it's good enough, word will eventually get around to you anyway. The records will always be available. It's not like they're going to turn sour if you don't snap them up quick. But there's no going back if one sucky release too many ruins forever your ability to listen to an artists earlier work, and that is the greater risk.

Curt, Tuesday, 4 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

two years pass...
how long do you persevere?

cozen. (Cozen), Sunday, 28 December 2003 01:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Why do I get the feeling that you're asking a different question now?

jaymc (jaymc), Sunday, 28 December 2003 01:20 (twenty-one years ago)

oh haha no i wasn't. i'm not that kinda girl!

cozen. (Cozen), Sunday, 28 December 2003 01:25 (twenty-one years ago)

It's been addressed on other threads, but for completeness' sake I have to ammend my above post to say that I think Bowie's back to being fab.

Sean (Sean), Sunday, 28 December 2003 01:33 (twenty-one years ago)


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