defending the indefensible: Projekt Records

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good luck.

Nihilist Pop Star (mjt), Monday, 17 November 2003 02:22 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.projekt.com/projekt/assets/images/artists/sleepofr.JPG

Nihilist Pop Star (mjt), Monday, 17 November 2003 02:23 (twenty-one years ago)

i like Mira

the surface noise (electricsound), Monday, 17 November 2003 02:23 (twenty-one years ago)

They put out v. nice Steve Roach records! And Vidna Obmana!

omg I am a total goth geek

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 17 November 2003 02:24 (twenty-one years ago)

they're on the dreamy side of goth rather than the industrial side of goth, so that's a good start

the surface noise (electricsound), Monday, 17 November 2003 02:25 (twenty-one years ago)

O Yuki Conjugate and Jeff Greinke are OK as far as tribal ambient industrial goth music goes (not very far admittedly). Android Lust look a bit suspect, has anybody actually heard them?

"When the otherwise demure Shikhee is asked about her music, you can see her tense before springing to life, as if prepared to pounce.
Question: Tell us something about the name Android Lust.
Shikhee: It's meant to show the dichotomy of one's nature. The contradiction that exists in us.
Q: Man, your album is intense. I'd hate to get on your bad side. Where does that intensity come from?
Shikhee: I don't know where it comes from. It's always there but repressed because I have to work, do chores, do menial crap just to live. So it's there... brewing. With music, I can be free and say anything openly. It is where I can be myself without having to put on an act just to be able to function in this fucking society."

Ther's loads of this stuff on there.

udu wudu (udu wudu), Monday, 17 November 2003 02:30 (twenty-one years ago)

somewhat acceptable stoner-metal d&d-kitschy song titles:

"Three Reptiles Wait At The Opening To The Underworld"
"Beast of Burden"
"Breathing Heart of the Dragon Mother"
"Born of Fire"
"The Spiral Of Time's Fire Burns On"
"How the Thieves Ride"

i'd like to hear electric wizard or earth interpret these titles.

rather excellent faux spinal tap division:

"Our Scent Rides The Breeze"

vahid (vahid), Monday, 17 November 2003 02:33 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm almost always interested to hear new projekt stuff. but music aside, they're quite friendly in my experience and also have a refreshing stance on file-sharing... they encourage it as a way for projekt artists to get more exposure. could turn out to be wrong, but at least they're giving it a chance.

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Monday, 17 November 2003 02:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Sam R. and I have known of each other for about ten years now ever since I wrote him asking for a catalog back in 1993 or so. These days I'm on his promo list for just about everything and we exchange sometimes cryptic e-mails. Sorry Nihilist, classic. He does what he does and does it v. well -- I WILL say that I've heard various stories from the good folks in Lovespirals, who I've known almost as long, but I've heard far worse about Mr. J who runs Dar1a...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 17 November 2003 02:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Projekt is the coolest. ya know what isn't the coolest? people who start these threads without giving any reasons for or against? it's lazy. People end up defending something that the person who started the damned thing doesn't give a shit about one way or another.

scott seward, Monday, 17 November 2003 02:55 (twenty-one years ago)

There's nothing wrong with Projekt records. Even if the label does sometimes pander to that mopey, dried out, generally vapid, sub-Lynch, preteen goth sweetheart crowd. There are some quality acts on there, and some excellent reissues. And quite frankly, I'd rather listen to pompous Black Tape for a Blue Girl albums over most of what passes for "post-rock" and "experimental" on the hipster indie rock labels.

James Slone (Freon Trotsky), Monday, 17 November 2003 02:57 (twenty-one years ago)

There isn't much acceptable about Android Lust.

Xii (Xii), Monday, 17 November 2003 03:06 (twenty-one years ago)

That said, I like Vidna Obmana, Greinke, Mira, Attrition, O Yuki Conjugate, and Shinjuku Thief. Projekt is more than a bit cheesy though.

Xii (Xii), Monday, 17 November 2003 03:08 (twenty-one years ago)

There isn't much acceptable about Android Lust.

I actually like that album a lot! So does Chuck Eddy, actually, which surprised me but hey.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 17 November 2003 03:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Projekt is awesome! Back in the day when I got into goth stuff their ad in like Alternative Press or something (hey I was 14!) caught my eye and led me down the ethereal path rather than the jackboot industrial path for which I am eternally grateful. I still like a lot of it and also their catalog introduced me to Mortiis with a full-page picture. Good stuff.

adam (adam), Monday, 17 November 2003 03:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I actually like that album a lot!

Has it changed much from the material on Tinman? 'Cause saying it was the best thing on that label wasn't even saying that much. I haven't heard the one on Projekt though.

Xii (Xii), Monday, 17 November 2003 03:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Subthread...
Best "Goth" Specialty Label: Projekt vs Cleopatra...GOTHGIRL CATFITE!

Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Monday, 17 November 2003 03:54 (twenty-one years ago)

i play that android lust album all the time at home. it's a keeper!

scott seward, Monday, 17 November 2003 03:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Best "Goth" Specialty Label: Projekt vs Cleopatra

i pick 4AD

the surface noise (electricsound), Monday, 17 November 2003 04:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Hahahahaha!
Good answer. Good answer.
ESOJ wins.

Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Monday, 17 November 2003 04:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I knew this chick with a Cleopatra records tattoo. When people would ask her about it she would get all huffy and go "it's the EYE OF RA" as if that's any cooler a tattoo to have. It's not like she was an ancient Egyptian. So Projekt is better. QED.

adam (adam), Monday, 17 November 2003 05:24 (twenty-one years ago)

lovesliescrushing.

el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Monday, 17 November 2003 07:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Projekt + 4AD = Ventricle.

udu wudu (udu wudu), Monday, 17 November 2003 15:29 (twenty-one years ago)

don't make me come back over there Jim

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 17 November 2003 15:32 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
WHY THE HELL DOES THIS THREAD EXIST

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 31 December 2003 02:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Seriously!!!

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Wednesday, 31 December 2003 02:41 (twenty-one years ago)

One word: Voltaire.

really, they need no further defense. although they've certainly got some. some crap, too, of course, but who doesn't?

janni (janni), Wednesday, 31 December 2003 18:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Lycia is more than enough to make this a great great great label.

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Thursday, 1 January 2004 19:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Both Voltaire and Lycia are reasons to celebrate! *does so*

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 1 January 2004 21:30 (twenty-one years ago)

somewhat acceptable stoner-metal d&d-kitschy song titles:
"Beast of Burden"

Dumb question: Is this a stoner-metal d&d kitsch cover of the Stones choon of the same name or is it a completely different track?

Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Thursday, 1 January 2004 21:47 (twenty-one years ago)

eight years pass...

ordered a whole raft of ambient stuff from them today. have to say, not many other record labels have stuck with me for 18 years.

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Thursday, 29 March 2012 01:41 (thirteen years ago)

eight years pass...

The new O Yuki Conjugate album Sleepwalker and Steve Roach's Trance Archaeology are both sublime. Sleepwalker isn't on Projekt but I bought it from them so it counts!

avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Friday, 17 April 2020 04:00 (five years ago)

ooh cool I had no idea about O Yuki Conjugate!

Dumb question: Is this a stoner-metal d&d kitsch cover of the Stones choon of the same name or is it a completely different track?

― Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron),Thursday, January 1, 2004

it's an Attrition track, completely different, and it rules, so tense and angsty

zoomer death circus (sleeve), Friday, 17 April 2020 04:07 (five years ago)

Sleepwalker may be my favorite OYC release since the Undercurrents: In Dark Water CD... I love it when they go sorta minimal and filmic.

avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Friday, 17 April 2020 04:51 (five years ago)

For the past few weeks I've made a playlist of a bunch of Projekt albums (Love Spirals Downwards, Lycia, Forrest Fang), dark ambient, and otherwise arcane music (Lisa Gerrard, Jessica Pratt, Trisomie 21, Xymox) and let it play all day on random, it's really great. It's like a big pot of soup I just keep adding to.

avellano medio inglés (f. hazel), Friday, 17 April 2020 04:56 (five years ago)

five years pass...

Because of the 'robots + sex' topic, I went searching on Spotify (yeah, I know) for more songs involving robots, androids, sex, lust, etc. and ended up on Android Lust. Wow are they / she great! Industrial robot sex, fuck yeah!

But also not what I was expecting from Projekt at all

I have this very clear division in my head between Ethereal Goth (where all that Projekt stuff belongs, lace and bats and castles and crucifixes dripping blood and sex is vampirism) and Industrial Goth (post-apocalyptic ruins, Berlin, leather, steampunk manmachines, sex is degrading but also I want it, so I must enjoy degradation)

And the idea suddenly popped into my head, Industrial Goth is Protestant Goth while Ethereal Goth is Catholic Goth.

Has there been a thread on this? (If there hasn't, if I started one, would that be a really bad idea?)

Etherwave, Friday, 1 August 2025 11:08 (two months ago)


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