Taking Sides: why radiohead is bad

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"... the art-rock band is not about rhythm, even if it sometimes plays in meters of 10/4 or 23/8. Neither is it about harmony, which tends to be static, or melody, which tends to be minimal, or structure, which tends to be simple and repetitive.

The band, which has an intensely dedicated international following and is the darling of so many rock critics, is really about extending teen angst into one's late 20s. Frontman Thom Yorke has just the slippery, enervated whine for that task. He writes the sort of lyrics that refer to child abuse, drug addiction, cannibalism, oppression and the general suckiness of life in oblique language that reads like an earnest, naive attempt at deep, highbrow poetry."

http://www.jsonline.com/onwisconsin/music/sep03/172330.asp

― asfdzxc (asfdzxc), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 17:40 (twenty-two years ago)

do any of these people who accuse other people of failing to meet the standards of "deep, highbrow poetry" actually like "deep, highbrow poetry"?

― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 17:43 (twenty-two years ago)

― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 17:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel music writing, blech. I love how he takes Radiohead to task for writing rock songs that are NOT COMPLEX ENOUGH.

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 17:48 (twenty-two years ago)

blah blah blah
do you feel cool now?
the only thing more boring than an ardent Radiohead fanboy/girl is their proud anti-fans, who remind me somewhat of this guy.

― Melissa W (Melissa W), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 17:51 (twenty-two years ago)

This thread is loaded - taking sides with only one option

― Vinnie (vprabhu), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 18:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Radiohead's rhythm section = most underrated rhythm section in history of rock music.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 18:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Reasons why they're bad? Their last three albums were dulllllllllllllllllllllllll.........

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 18:09 (twenty-two years ago)

hear, hear, nick!

― Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 18:09 (twenty-two years ago)

the only thing more boring than an ardent Radiohead fanboy/girl is their proud anti-fans

Yes - because both are wrong. I don't understand why Radiohead polarise opinions, or inspire such fervour either way. They're alright I guess, mostly (especially lately) a bit boring but with enough great moments to almost balance that out. There's nothing more to them. Mleh.

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 18:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Be aware that I said that as a fangirl. I know we're boring. But we're not wrong! Haha.

― Melissa W (Melissa W), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 18:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Heh, I can imagine Thom Yorke saying that.

― The Lex (The Lex), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 18:16 (twenty-two years ago)

writer's saying that yorke "actually likes" "deep highbrow poetry," attempts it and "fails to execute." it's not that RADIOHEAD isnt COMPLEX ENOUGH but that THEY are LAME? if they were ABOUT those SIMPLE ELEMENTS of music maybe they would be good to rock to.

radiohead is okay. that guy i remind you of reminds me of thom yorke.

― asfdzxc (asfdzxc), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 18:27 (twenty-two years ago)

radiohead epitomizes mediocrity.

― jack cole (jackcole), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 18:28 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm not gonna weigh in on this because I'm somewhat biased, but I saw this on insound.com today and was highly annoyed:

---> RADIOHEAD '2+2=5 (#1)' (EMI)
Import features "Remyxomatosis (Chrsitan Vogel remix)" and the first
version demo of "There, There."

(BUY CDep)
http://www.insound.com/annex/searchperfect.cfm?query=INS21299

---> RADIOHEAD '2+2=5 (#2)' (EMI)
Import features "Skttrbrain (Four Tet remix)" and "I Will (Los
Angeles
Version)."

(BUY CDep)
http://www.insound.com/annex/searchperfect.cfm?query=INS21300

---> RADIOHEAD '2+2=5' (DVD) (EMI)
Import DVD includes "Sit Down Stand Up" and an excerpt from "The Most

Gigantic Lying Mouth of All Time".

(BUY DVD)
http://www.insound.com/annex/searchperfect.cfm?query=INS21301

3 singles of the same song on 2 formats? I also read they were gonna release a comp of all the bsides eventually.

cha-ching!

― bill stevens (bscrubbins), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 18:37 (twenty-two years ago)

I also read they were gonna release a comp of all the bsides eventually.

The CDR I got from a London ILXor with all the recent B-sides is a veritable boon. As for this three single format deal, it's becoming more common in some corners, alas.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 18:38 (twenty-two years ago)

in a another thread I was singing the praises of the airbag EP, but fleecing fans is just so.. lame.

― bill stevens (bscrubbins), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 18:40 (twenty-two years ago)

it's the old, why bother selling the record to three people when you could sell the record to one person three times over trick. You see it at all the county fairs.

― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 18:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Having two parts to singles is pretty much the norm in the UK, Bill.

― Melissa W (Melissa W), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 18:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Is there an instrumental of the entire Kid-A album? because I would actually listen to that.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 18:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Radiohead is the best rock band ever who has never written a song even slightly fun.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 18:46 (twenty-two years ago)

"Anyone Can Play Guitar" is fun!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 18:49 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't care to have yet another Radiohead discussion, but the title of this thread is so incredibly dumb. The "Taking sides" bit is completely extraneous, no?

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 18:54 (twenty-two years ago)

it's not that RADIOHEAD isnt COMPLEX ENOUGH but that THEY are LAME? if they were ABOUT those SIMPLE ELEMENTS of music maybe they would be good to rock to.

But the actual article is about a piano player doing the tunes solo. Isn't he basically saying that when they are 'exposed' on a piano with out all the slurring and production, that they are overly simplistic and banal?

― Jordan (Jordan), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 18:58 (twenty-two years ago)

i think it's a reference to the seemingly indestructible DaVe MaTtHeWs (i know that doesn't googleproof it, but it does make it look sorta cool) thread of a similar title

x-post

― Huckleberry Mann (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 19:00 (twenty-two years ago)

"creep" is fun.

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 19:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't know if I would call those songs "fun" exactly, but I see y'alls' point.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 19:02 (twenty-two years ago)

the only thing more boring than an ardent Radiohead fanboy/girl is their proud anti-fans

*Julio and I quietly (and boringly) sharpen our knives*

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 19:04 (twenty-two years ago)

ha ha "Knives Out"

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 19:06 (twenty-two years ago)

there's also a review of radiohead in there. says their music is about lyrics and the lyrics are bad. but he also says the lyrics are indecipherable.

in that contradiction radiohead seems to be about form: the interaction between the simple structure of the melody and chord, the moaning about cannibalism or whatever, and most importantly the electro effects. take kid a like this and it's FUN to listen to. JUST KID A-ING

― asfdzxc (asfdzxc), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 20:38 (twenty-two years ago)

I listened to Kid A before falling asleep last night. It's good. It's not the greatest thing since sliced Mozart, but it's good.
Yeah, an instrumental-only version of it would be nice, but Thom's voice really doesn't get in the way too much--I actually like it at times.
And I couldn't care less what the lyrics are about. I listen to music for, you know, the music.
Dismissing a band for its lyrics=DUD

― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 20:54 (twenty-two years ago)

have there been any remixes of the Kid Amnesiac material? it's one of the few "rock" albums I can think of where something like that would seem intriguing to me.

― M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 21:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Officially no -- all B-sides from Amnesiac were originals.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 21:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I didn't think so. it's a little surprising in retrospect--you'd think Thom's Warp/Schematic/Ellen Allien-luv would have resulted in some collaborations. then again, it's probably better that there weren't any--it's one reason I suspect R-head have as much post-club cred as they do, that they're doing stuff in a similar vein themselves rather than bringing in ringers.

― M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 21:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Hm, that's a good take on it that makes sense. To see the Vogel/Four Tet remixes happening is potentially intriguing...

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 21:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Paul Oakenfold remixed Idioteque

― man, Wednesday, 19 November 2003 21:10 (twenty-two years ago)

I would love to hear some German microfolk getting their hands on that stuff, obv. But that's because I would love to hear some German microfolk getting their hands on just about anything.

― M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 21:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Paul Oakenfold remixed Idioteque

Where was it released? (Honest question, BTW.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 21:39 (twenty-two years ago)

It wasn't officially released, probably just a white label-type dealy. There's also a Josh Wink remix of Everything In Its Right Place in existence.

I'm going to be a boring fanboy. The premise of this thread sucks.

― Schwingung (Damian), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 21:45 (twenty-two years ago)

someone throw down some yorke cannibalisms

― asfdzxc (asfdzxc), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 21:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Good music is never about rhythm anyway

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 22:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Radiohead became the Pink Floyd of the 90's. Thats enough reason for me to hate them. "Creep" (their only pop song) was ace though.

― daavid, Wednesday, 19 November 2003 22:29 (twenty-two years ago)

They were only the Pink Floyd of the 90s in theory - Radiohead could actually play their instruments - I love both bands, mind.

― Schwingung (Damian), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 22:32 (twenty-two years ago)

I'd make some sort of comment about how I can't be bothered to defend Radiohead anymore because my arguments always seem to disintegrate into radical subjectivism, and also are you INSANE Radiohead are so much better now you can dance like a chicken on a hotplate to them, but. FOUR TET REMIX.

!!!

The world is full of joy and wonder.

― cis (cis), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 22:36 (twenty-two years ago)

a. If you don't see the sense of humor ('fun') in Radiohead and you're the type of person who's attracted to their music in a fanboy ie they're the "best rock band ever who..." way, there's something wrong with your sense of humor!!

b. I like that Cristian Vogel remix

― Sonny A. (Keiko), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 22:36 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't see much (bordering on "any") humor in their music though, other than occasional black comedy in some of their more sinister lyrics. I'm attracted to their music for everything else, I'm attracted to it for the moods it conveys, the atmospheres it creates, and they have GREAT rhythms! "The National Anthem" would just be squonky insanity without the fucking throbtacular drumbeat, "Idioteque" is fucking danceolutionary!, and Johnny Greenwood is often one of the most rhythmatic lead guitarists there is (a la machine gunning out the solo in "Just"), for a couple examples.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 23:00 (twenty-two years ago)

And wait, something wrong with my sense of humor? My favorite shit is like Ween and Fishbone and Mr. Bungle and Kool Keith and...hmmmm.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 23:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Maybe your sense of humor just isn't very subtle!

― Yesterday I Woke Up Sucking a Lemon (Keiko), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 23:09 (twenty-two years ago)

ex., Thom on "Let Down":
"I was pissed in a club, and I suddenly had the funniest thought I'd had for ages - what if all the people who were drinking were hanging from the bottles... if the bottles were hung from the ceiling with string, and the floor caved in, and the only thing that kept everyone up was the bottles? It's also about an enormous fear of being trapped."

― Sonny A. (Keiko), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 23:11 (twenty-two years ago)

And I'm really sure, while writing a song called "We Suck Young Blood", Thom was thinking "This is some heavy shit, dude!"

― Sonny A. (Keiko), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 23:13 (twenty-two years ago)

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Remixes don't count anyway. Radihead are on their way to something better again though, even though "OK Computer" remains their one and only masterpiece.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 20 November 2003 00:57 (twenty-two years ago)

let me guess . . . does it involve--melody?

― M Matos (M Matos), Thursday, 20 November 2003 00:58 (twenty-two years ago)

The humor is much more than occasional, though, it's built into everything they do. Or so it seems to me. One of the things that attracted to the band most ca. when they were my favorite band (age 15) was the personality -- the humor had a lot to do with why I liked them and maybe I'm not accepting of the fact that they're just a goth band or whatever to "most people"

― Sonny A. (Keiko), Thursday, 20 November 2003 01:10 (twenty-two years ago)

I like Radiohead because they're serious. Humor in popular music is not in itself a bad thing, it's just that there's SO GODDAMN MUCH OF IT!!! Especially over here in the U.S. with your Blink-182s and your Limp Bizkits and your Eminems.

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Thursday, 20 November 2003 01:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Brad Mehldau has done some great piano covers of Radiohead. Check out his Paranoid Android--pretty complex stuff, if you ask me.

― Josh Rissmiller (sherlock), Thursday, 20 November 2003 01:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Aside from the dark humour already mentioned, there is a kind of... I dunno... whimsy? Is that the word? Especially on HttT.

― David A. (Davant), Thursday, 20 November 2003 01:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Remember kiddies, bands like Mission of Burma have always been better than Radiohead.

― Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 20 November 2003 01:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Mission of fucking BURMA?? They've written a grand total of... oh I don't know... TWO good songs!! "Academy Fight Song" and "That's When I Reach For My Fucking Revolver, Beeeyotch!!"

― Mr. Snrub (Mr. Snrub), Thursday, 20 November 2003 01:38 (twenty-two years ago)

BURMA!

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 20 November 2003 01:40 (twenty-two years ago)

I said BURMA!

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 20 November 2003 01:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Mission of fucking BURMA?? They've written a grand total of... oh I don't know... TWO good songs!! "Academy Fight Song" and "That's When I Reach For My Fucking Revolver, Beeeyotch!!"

You've obviously only heard two Mission of Burma songs, slore!

― Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 20 November 2003 01:55 (twenty-two years ago)

That's still two more good songs than Radiohead.

Anyway, I was listening to a bootleg of theirs from 82, and ALL the songs were good.

― Sasha (sgh), Thursday, 20 November 2003 01:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Of course there are more boring acts than Radiohead, but few are hailed (quite uninformedly and incorrectly) as some sort of saviours of music. And such pretentious gits!

Yes, I only like them because I am uninformed. Damn, where can I become schooled and educated like you?

― Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 20 November 2003 04:15 (twenty-two years ago)

"Of course, this is all my opinion, and to most it is wrong."

You could start by learning to read.

― Sasha (sgh), Thursday, 20 November 2003 04:17 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't put much stock in insincere disclaimers. "Uninformed" implies some objective truth to be had. Pasting "my opinion" at the bottom doesn't change what you meant. Obviously it's your opinion. But the language you use lays the blame at the feet of those who enjoy the band, insulting their intelligence, rather than aiming your ire at the band's music.

― Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 20 November 2003 04:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, most of the Radiohead fans I've ranted at (and there's been a fair few), know precious little (if anything) about D.I., Tortoise, Bark Psychosis, Mogwai, or Mouse on Mars; bands which I'd consider comparable to (and much better than) Radiohead.

Of course, this is only the people I'VE met, but I can say in MY experience, most R'head fans are uninformed.

I'm sorry, but subjective is all I know. Obviously, all these people (while IN MY OPINION have crap taste in muzak) seem to have better times at parties I attend, whereas I make eyes glaze over by going on and on about the Fall and Husker Du bootlegs.

I'd also consider newspaper music journos whose entire career seems to have revolved around every Jet and Strokes release to be uninformed when reviewing Radiohead releases, but I could be and probably am wrong.

I also dislike GYBE, Sigur Ros and Mum, so you can all come to my gig and form a queue to punch me, okay?

― Sasha (sgh), Thursday, 20 November 2003 04:45 (twenty-two years ago)

*hugs Sasha*

Gig?

― Girolamo Savonarola, Thursday, 20 November 2003 05:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Sasha, I'm probably the biggest Radiohead fan you'll ever "meet" and it would not be entirely unlikely that I know just as much if not more than you about Bark Psychosis, D.I., Mouse on Mars, The Fall, etc.

I'm definitely not a fan of Sigur Rós or Múm and I'm fairly tired of the whole GYBE! thing (though how you don't include Mogwai in this axis of mediocrity, I don't know).

― Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 20 November 2003 05:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Probably. But I haven't "met" you yet. Which is my point.

― Sasha (sgh), Thursday, 20 November 2003 06:09 (twenty-two years ago)

And my point is that you can't make assumption that my or anyone else's opinions are stemming from any particular lack of knowledge.

Hate the band all you want, I really don't give a fuck. But it does get on my tits if you're going to be making uninformed judgments upon how MY (or anyone else's) opinions came to be.

I can't claim to know why you don't like the band, but I'm certainly not going to posit that it's because you are some sort of ill-informed dimwit.

― Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 20 November 2003 06:15 (twenty-two years ago)

But that would JUST be your opinion, if you DID posit that.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 20 November 2003 06:19 (twenty-two years ago)

And it would also make me a bitch.

― Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 20 November 2003 06:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes, but I thought I should put that DISCLAIMER in there.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 20 November 2003 06:20 (twenty-two years ago)

It would make you seem less bitch-y if you had hypothetically said that he was an ill-informed dimwit (which, of course, you didn't--although you have a fair amount of evidence indicating that he is) and it would have softened the insult, but of course you didn't say he was, so there ya go.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 20 November 2003 06:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Saying it was just your opinion, that is.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 20 November 2003 06:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Which of course it isn't.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 20 November 2003 06:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Or at least your not going to say it if it is.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 20 November 2003 06:26 (twenty-two years ago)

What is the taking sides here btw? I don't get it.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 20 November 2003 06:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Radiohead's rhythm section under-rated?! (from up near the top somewhere...) They're pedestrian at best. And that's overstating it.

― steve, Thursday, 20 November 2003 08:46 (twenty-two years ago)

The review replaced with one line, "This guy isn't as good as Brad Mehldau, who did 'Exit Music' pretty good"

― dave q, Thursday, 20 November 2003 09:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Plus the 'adolescent angst'='bad' meme is starting to piss me off. 'Well-adjusted' is the news hip these days. Come back Huey Lewis, all is forgiven.

― dave q, Thursday, 20 November 2003 09:18 (twenty-two years ago)

There is no taking sides, really, it's just a "Radiohead are crap hahaha" thread.

― Schwingung (Damian), Thursday, 20 November 2003 09:21 (twenty-two years ago)

i like the title

― asfdzxc (asfdzxc), Thursday, 20 November 2003 10:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Those are only comparable to Radiohead's pathetic "experimental" phase, which is now hopefully over.

Travis, Coldplay, Elbow, Doves, Jeff Buckley and U2 would be more natural comparisions.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 20 November 2003 12:45 (twenty-two years ago)

sigh

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 20 November 2003 12:59 (twenty-two years ago)

What do you dislike about Bark Psychosis, Geir?

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 20 November 2003 13:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Geir, you hurt me in the heart.

― Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 20 November 2003 16:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm kind of wondering why Sasha never reappeared.

― Melissa W (Melissa W), Thursday, 20 November 2003 20:40 (twenty-two years ago)

you scared her away melissa.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 20 November 2003 20:46 (twenty-two years ago)

''the only thing more boring than an ardent Radiohead fanboy/girl is their proud anti-fans
*Julio and I quietly (and boringly) sharpen our knives*''

I'm licking my knife cuz that's how 'hardcore' I am ;)

(but anyway, I'm really glad I'm working even more nowdays as this thread flew by until now)

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 20 November 2003 20:48 (twenty-two years ago)

I had to go and drink heavily, pull my pants down in the pub, and abuse some guy from Motorace, but now I'm back.

I hate Radiohead.

People who like Radiohead are dumb.

This is an objective opinion.

― Sasha (sgh), Friday, 21 November 2003 02:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Many people who don't like Radiohead are also dumb.

This is probably a subjective fact.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 21 November 2003 02:44 (twenty-two years ago)

I'M TAKING IT ALL YOU RADIOHEAD UN-FANS AREN'T MUSICIANS?

― CAVERNOUS, Friday, 21 November 2003 13:46 (twenty-two years ago)

why

― asfdzxc (asfdzxc), Friday, 21 November 2003 15:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Did you abuse the guy from Motorace while you had your pants around your ankles? If so, that's sure to have made an impact!

― steve, Friday, 21 November 2003 15:13 (twenty-two years ago)

Radiohead is like what most other really good rock bands would be if they were also interesting.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 21 November 2003 15:16 (twenty-two years ago)

"I'm not an elitist...if I need a fix of passive audio-visual stimulation, I'll go to catch a Bergman or Truffaut film down at the university."

Haha, classic.

I think I'm a bit behind the times - is it cool to like or dislike Radiohead these days?

― Stupid, Friday, 21 November 2003 23:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Goddammit, ILM sucks.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Friday, 21 November 2003 23:26 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah but they let me do condescending shit like this Songs The Karma Police Won't Arrest Thom Yorke For: Especially Tolerable Radiohead '93-'03

1)Creep
2)That Song On Pablo Honey With the gradually rising guitar part whose name escapes me
3)Fake Plastic Trees
4)Just
5)Street Spirit (Fade Out)
6)Let Down
7)El Presidente (Thom Yorke/Drugstore duet)
8)Karma Police
9)Electioneering
10)The Mess We're In (Thom Yorke/PJ Harvey duet)
11)The National Anthem
12)Idioteque
13)I Might Be Wrong

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 21 November 2003 23:31 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't care if it's cool or not. I like them. A very good rock band. The only thing I don't like is all this constant second-guessing about their status in the history of music. It's boring. And now I'm contributing to it, too (good call on the PJ Harvey thing, Anthony).

It's like we can't help picking at it, or something.

(This has been a completely irony- and bullshit-free post.)

― David A. (Davant), Friday, 21 November 2003 23:40 (twenty-two years ago)

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